webfact Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 PM says military courts never violate human rightsBANGKOK, 17 May 2016 (NNT) - Prime Minister Gen Prayut Chan-o-cha has said that military courts are being used instead of civilian courts to prosecute cases related to national security, saying that the current situation in Thailand is not normal.After the country submitted its human rights report to the United Nations last week, Gen Prayut explained that every UN member state, including Thailand, is required to submit this report every four-and-a-half years.The government has asked the UN Human Rights Council (UNHRC) to report the achievements of previous Thai governments in dealing with human rights issues. According to the UNHRC, the previous administration was only able to implement 20% of what the UN body had suggested. As for the use of military courts, the premier said the government has always been careful about how it deals with lawbreakers.Continuous efforts have been made to clarify doubts regarding the human rights situation in Thailand to the international community. Gen Prayut ensured that in this endeavor, evidence has not been fabricated, nor have human rights been violated in the use of military courts.He urged the Thai media to help convey an accurate understanding of the country's current situation. Following a recent visit by the US Ambassador Glyn T. Davies to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Gen Prayut said it was his right to express his views.-- NNT 2016-05-17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtls2005 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 saying that the current situation in Thailand is not normal. D'Oh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snig27 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 On one hand he's (correctly) saying that Thai educational standards need to be raised, on the other hand, he's spouting garbage like this which underlines fairly clearly that he's a great example of the failure of said system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laolover88 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Would have thought "a military court" was a contradiction in terms, unless there was a court martial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) "...nor have human rights been violated in the use of military courts." They don't violate human rights. They promote human wrongs. Edited May 17, 2016 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Seeking words of wisdom from Putin, slag off the U S ambassador , politics can be a very dangerous game., equiliberium from the PM just latley has gone out the window, his actions now can have far reaching consequences for Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Military Courts don't need to violate human rights as the govt is doing a bang up job on that front themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigt3365 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I think there are a few Chinese dissidents and ethnic Uighur who might disagree with this statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanku Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 worth reading opinion piece from Prachatai on Thailand's UPR http://prachatai.org/english/node/6165 "Many of the contributions from other countries quote chapter and verse from the Thai law and the Thai constitution; so much for the claim that ‘they just don’t understand Thailand’. But hold on, that is exactly what Minister of Justice Gen Paiboon Khumchaya did assert. The lèse majesté law is not a violation of human rights, neither is the way it is applied, he claims. It’s just that no one else in the whole wide world has the ‘civilization, sensitivity, and gentleness’ even to have a lèse majesté law, let alone understand why the Thai incarnation is such an article of perfection. What Christmas tree did he fall off? The best part of the world doesn’t have a majesté to lèse, so why would they have such a law? And when everyone and his mother is doing things one way, and you are the odd Charlie out, doesn’t even the faintest glimmer of doubt cross your mind that you may be the one that’s got things wrong?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
somo Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Does he really believes his own lies? Respect Human Right with : no freedom of press/speech , arbitrary detention,... and so much more that we all know... what a douche! I think he does and that's what makes him dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thai3 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Quite a number of dead people would disagree- if they could Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 worth reading opinion piece from Prachatai on Thailand's UPR http://prachatai.org/english/node/6165 "Many of the contributions from other countries quote chapter and verse from the Thai law and the Thai constitution; so much for the claim that ‘they just don’t understand Thailand’. But hold on, that is exactly what Minister of Justice Gen Paiboon Khumchaya did assert. The lèse majesté law is not a violation of human rights, neither is the way it is applied, he claims. It’s just that no one else in the whole wide world has the ‘civilization, sensitivity, and gentleness’ even to have a lèse majesté law, let alone understand why the Thai incarnation is such an article of perfection. What Christmas tree did he fall off? The best part of the world doesn’t have a majesté to lèse, so why would they have such a law? And when everyone and his mother is doing things one way, and you are the odd Charlie out, doesn’t even the faintest glimmer of doubt cross your mind that you may be the one that’s got things wrong?" "And when everyone and his mother is doing things one way, and you are the odd Charlie out, doesn’t even the faintest glimmer of doubt cross your mind that you may be the one that’s got things wrong?" That assumes he actually cares what's "right" and "wrong" using the Western definition of those terms. He doesn't. What he considers right is what's good for him and his "faction". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldroj Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The only fact reported here by the junta's mouthpiece (NNT) is that IT IS US Ambassador Glyn T. Davies right to express his views! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The only fact reported here by the junta's mouthpiece (NNT) is that IT IS US Ambassador Glyn T. Davies right to express his views! Too bad we all don't have diplomatic immunity from ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emster23 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Absolutely right, the situitation in Thailand is not normal. We are living under a self-imposed military dictatorship. That, for sure, is not normal. I disagree. Seems all too normal here.... sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sanukjim Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 "...nor have human rights been violated in the use of military courts." They don't violate human rights. They promote human wrongs. The best post yet on this subject.Well play on words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saminoz Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 The only fact reported here by the junta's mouthpiece (NNT) is that IT IS US Ambassador Glyn T. Davies right to express his views! A right that the US Ambassador has in Thailand, unlike the Thai people!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKDfella Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 I am British and I'm sorry to hear that Glyn T. Davies is taking all the flak because other Ambassadors, including the British, remain silent...or does someone here know different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixdoglover Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) I am British and I'm sorry to hear that Glyn T. Davies is taking all the flak because other Ambassadors, including the British, remain silent...or does someone here know different? I would think it highly likely the US, UK and EU consulates in Bangkok are coordinating on a range of issues. Davies read a prepared statement, to the surprise of his Thai host. That was not a spontaneous event. Edited May 17, 2016 by phoenixdoglover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayduke Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Regardless of the circumstances, trying a civilian in a military court is in and of itself, always a violation of human rights. Edited May 17, 2016 by Hayduke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Enough already! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkv Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 (edited) Enough already! I do find these articles that pop up every day now insulting. Edited May 17, 2016 by lkv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabothai Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 May be it should be made clear to him what human rights are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Gen Prayut said it was his right to express his views. One down and 59,999,999 Thais to go. That's my "take away." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 As military courts are themselves by definition a violation of human rights, I fail to follow the logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cumgranosalum Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 "Following a recent visit by the US Ambassador Glyn T. Davies to the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Gen Prayut said it was his right to express his views." - that's a bit ambiguous, who is the "his" in "his right" - the US ambassador or Prayuth?, but what about the rst of the Thai population, when do they get that "right"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Personally I thought that was the precise reason for military courts. So that peoples human rights could be violated with impunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metisdead Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 One more time: Please use discretion in your references to the government. Phrases which can be considered as anti-coup will be removed. Referring to Thailand or the government as a dictatorship, military dictatorship or other such terms will be removed. Any posts which can be construed as rumor mongering are not allowed. Posters violating these rules and the forum rules will receive a warning, a possible suspension of posting privileges or a ban from the site. http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/index.php?app=forums&module=extras§ion=boardrules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbymack Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 He's doing it again. Failure to understand what human rights are. A military court used for civilians is already a breach of human rights in itself. He makes up the laws as he goes along so anyone can seemingly break them without knowledge. He seems to think that making up a law makes it legitimate and therefore can be tried in a military court. The man is clueless and delusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted May 17, 2016 Share Posted May 17, 2016 Oh, nobody believes little Prayut??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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