Gen Prawit hopes Ms Yingluck gave factual information to European Parliament

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Gen Prawit hopes Ms Yingluck gave factual information to European Parliament



BANGKOK: -- Former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra has the right to give information about domestic political situation to representatives of the European Parliament, said Deputy Prime Minister Prawit Wongsuwan on Wednesday.

However, he said he hoped the information given to the visiting European Parliament representatives by the ex-premier would be factual and was not distorted.

The EP representatives did not ask for a meeting with the National Council for Peace and Order but, if they have any doubt about the political situation, the junta is ready to give the information or to make clarification, said the deputy prime minister.

He insisted that the NCPO has no ulterior motives and that all the actions that have been taken by the council were intended to maintain peace and order and to ensure that the country will move forward.

Meanwhile, Ms Yingluck told the press that she discussed with the European parliamentarians about the political situation in Thailand, the referendum process to endorse the draft constitution and political roadmap toward democratic rule.

She said that the government must do all it can to convince the international community to have confidence in Thailand which will benefit Thailand’s economy and Thai exports.

Source: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/content/163787


-- Thai PBS 2016-05-19

[aussieinthailand]

So the European Parliament wanted and had a meeting with Yingluck but requested nor wanted a meeting with the junta, hhahahahahahaha How do you like them apples.

But what's even more of a joke is that they (the junta) say if the EP would like the political situation in LOS "clarified" then they are happy to do that.

OK you falang, you no understan, this is Thailan,

That's it "AA" for the lot of you, hey general can we do that?

Hey General can we make up some new law and put Yinglik in the monkey house cause she made us look bad????? PLEASEEES!!!!!!!

[NongKhaiKid]

Does he mean ' factual information ' similar to the factual information the junta releases ?

[jerojero]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

[thesetat2013]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

[BlindMagician]

Eerr...pot...kettle...pick a colour.

[yellowboat]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

Edited May 19, 2016 by yellowboat

[thesetat2013]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

She gave up that position and then tried to hold onto it illegally after she could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to. Maybe she won a landslide but that doesn't mean she did it legally either or morally ethical. It could only mean she or Thak paid her way through that and as for that landslide, it was mostly accomplished through voters in the north where they had already been bought and paid for by thaksin.

[Snig27]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

She gave up that position and then tried to hold onto it illegally after she could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to. Maybe she won a landslide but that doesn't mean she did it legally either or morally ethical. It could only mean she or Thak paid her way through that and as for that landslide, it was mostly accomplished through voters in the north where they had already been bought and paid for by thaksin.

Utter nonsense and repeatedly refuted "bought" votes claims. Peer reviewed external studies that have been linked to several times in these forums give the lie to that sad old meme.

And please don't start on the woeful "populist policies" twaddle.

Really, you just stating the same old cliches again, won't miraculously turn them into fact.

(as an aside, before you launch into another cliche, I'm neither a "red" nor a Thaksin fan, I just dislike the distortion of past events to make a case)

[hansnl]

The ex MP of Thailand tells representatives(?) of the EU things.

As the EU has a track record of undemocratic moves, I wonder if listening to the ramblings of Mrs YS will in any way change the preconceived ideas of those idiots in Brussel.

The EU is a highly autocratic and undemocratic body that should be demolished pronto.

However, those in power will try to stay in power, with all means.

[Jimbo2014]

If she did, it would be a world first for Thailand

[JAG]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

She gave up that position and then tried to hold onto it illegally after she could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to. Maybe she won a landslide but that doesn't mean she did it legally either or morally ethical. It could only mean she or Thak paid her way through that and as for that landslide, it was mostly accomplished through voters in the north where they had already been bought and paid for by thaksin.

1. " She could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to" !! Perfectly legitimate and constitutional elections were prevented by violence and threats of violence, the military stood by sniggering whilst that happened, the courts used it as an excuse to annul the elections and the military then used it as an excuse to stage a coup and install a junta which has now put her on trial.

2. "As for that landslide it was mostly accompanied through voters in the North whose votes were paid for." The defeated Abhisit himself said the election was fair, and vote buying has been widely discredited as an influence on the result. Are you suggesting that Northern voters should be disenfranchised because they vote for a party of which you disapprove?

The European Parliament, an organisation for which I also generally have little time, seems in this instance rather to have grasped the realities of the situation, realities which you are enthusiastically trying to rewrite.

Edited May 19, 2016 by JAG

[NCC1701A]

She is way cuter than this guy. Good luck.

[scorecard]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

Add, she has no idea what democracy really means nor does she understand the processes which build and protect democracy, so she can't engage in any substantive discussions about democracy. If the EU committee had done it's homework they would know this very clearly.

What a farce.

Edited May 19, 2016 by scorecard

[klauskunkel]

EP reps after the meeting with k. Yingluk:

rep 1:"did you understand that?"

rep 2:"nope."

rep 1:"should we ask the junta?"

rep 2:"nope."

rep 1:"should we go home?"

rep 2:"yep. my brain hurts."

[SOTIRIOS]

...someone 'on the hook' for nearly a trillion baht in damages....and we're going to hope....???

[thesetat2013]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

She gave up that position and then tried to hold onto it illegally after she could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to. Maybe she won a landslide but that doesn't mean she did it legally either or morally ethical. It could only mean she or Thak paid her way through that and as for that landslide, it was mostly accomplished through voters in the north where they had already been bought and paid for by thaksin.

Utter nonsense and repeatedly refuted "bought" votes claims. Peer reviewed external studies that have been linked to several times in these forums give the lie to that sad old meme.

And please don't start on the woeful "populist policies" twaddle.

Really, you just stating the same old cliches again, won't miraculously turn them into fact.

(as an aside, before you launch into another cliche, I'm neither a "red" nor a Thaksin fan, I just dislike the distortion of past events to make a case)

Tell that to the people there and the foreigners with Thai families that witnessed those events. Not to me. As I have seen it happen back then as well.

[Artisi]

EP reps after the meeting with k. Yingluk:

rep 1:"did you understand that?"

rep 2:"nope."

rep 1:"should we ask the junta?"

rep 2:"nope."

rep 1:"should we go home?"

rep 2:"yep. my brain hurts."

rep1: "lets go shopping"

rep2: "will we invite the dolly-bird"

rep1: "why not, she has all the shopping contacts"

[MZurf]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

She gave up that position and then tried to hold onto it illegally after she could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to. Maybe she won a landslide but that doesn't mean she did it legally either or morally ethical. It could only mean she or Thak paid her way through that and as for that landslide, it was mostly accomplished through voters in the north where they had already been bought and paid for by thaksin.

Utter nonsense and repeatedly refuted "bought" votes claims. Peer reviewed external studies that have been linked to several times in these forums give the lie to that sad old meme.

And please don't start on the woeful "populist policies" twaddle.

Really, you just stating the same old cliches again, won't miraculously turn them into fact.

(as an aside, before you launch into another cliche, I'm neither a "red" nor a Thaksin fan, I just dislike the distortion of past events to make a case)

Tell that to the people there and the foreigners with Thai families that witnessed those events. Not to me. As I have seen it happen back then as well.

Facts are not a big part of your world, is it... . What part of mainly fair and open elections deemed so by political opponents and the international community alike don't you understand?

We do get that you wish the voters of the North and North East did not get a vote but if you're going to even pretend to have a democracy that stuff just will not do.

"Tell that to the people there and the foreigners with Thai families that witnessed those events."

Does that mean that a majority of the Thai electorate see thing as you do? Why not hold an election then?? I am a foreigner with a Thai family who have been living here since the early nineties and I saw those events just the way JAG described them so please don't even try to suggest you talk on our behalf....you don't!

[aussieinthailand]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

So I guess it's time for a quick lesson in facts and history as well as learning that much as you keep trying you can't rewrite history because people will correct you ok Popit.

"And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is?"

News flash, Yingluk democratically elected leader, followed the law to dissolve government, followed the law to hold elections with in 60 days.

fact 1. The EP requested a meeting with Yingluk and were granted it.

fact 2. The junta wanted a meeting with the EP to "clarify" Thailand's political situation

fact 3. The Junta leader said democracy will never die in Thailand as he is a democratic leader.

fact 4. The junta leader said that military courts never violate human rights.

fact 5. The junta leader gave himself and his mate an amnesty of past present and future crimes.

fact 6. The junta leader publicly stated that if reporters do not tell (the truth) (party line) will be executed.

fact 7. The junta leader said if he wanted to use his full powers he could have people taken out and shot.

fact 8. The junta lead has the people that investigations into his family's wealth will not be tolerated.

fact 9. The junta leader promised there would be no coup. and then promised election and reneged each time.

fact 10. You fan boy's just hate it when facts are pointed out to you, but it's ok now Popit lesson over.

OOpp's just one more little nugget for ya mate, The junta leader was not democratically elected but self imposed.

Edited May 19, 2016 by aussieinthailand

[lucky11]

Please substantiate your point that Abhisit claimed the election was fair as I can't find any evidence of this!!

[rubl]

EP reps after the meeting with k. Yingluk:

rep 1:"did you understand that?"

rep 2:"nope."

rep 1:"should we ask the junta?"

rep 2:"nope."

rep 1:"should we go home?"

rep 2:"yep. my brain hurts."

You missed the night on town before going home

[rubl]

I'm sure Ms. Yingluck gave her vision as she wants us to see it. Just like posters here express their opinion. IMHO

[rubl]

I guess the visit came to be in place of the outstanding invitation to Ms. Yingluck, the one from October last year. At least The Nation mentions Werner Langen.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/Only-inclusive-reform-will-pave-the-way-to-democra-30286278.html

[Kiwiken]

And like any good Ostrich they will bury their heads in the sand. And having strangled the umbilical cord they will have free and fair elections. Where the outcome is predestined because there is no freedom of choice.When a Military believes its duty is to lead the people instead of protecting the Nation then you take a very dark path indeed. Look to Japans history to see where it leads. The similarities are very apparent. I pray the people of Thailand will make the military understand that the Military serves them not vice versa

[jesimps]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

Was she elected by the people? Yes.

Could the people vote her out of power at the next election?

Yes.

She knows a darn site more about democracy than you and the junta.

Why do you think the European Parliament asked to speak to her and not the junta.

[jesimps]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

She was elected in a landslide victory against a squeaky clean looking, well spoken, unelected puppet, who is also asking the junta to step aside.. She should have had the chance to fight an impeachment or be voted out.

She gave up that position and then tried to hold onto it illegally after she could not get elections to happen the way she wanted them to. Maybe she won a landslide but that doesn't mean she did it legally either or morally ethical. It could only mean she or Thak paid her way through that and as for that landslide, it was mostly accomplished through voters in the north where they had already been bought and paid for by thaksin.

The same old broken record about bought votes.

As for her disolving parliament, she did it to try to stop the mayhem caused by the plotters. That, IMHO, was the PTP's big mistake. They should have forced the army to remove them which would have been a huge propoganda coup as seen by the rest of the world.

Edited May 19, 2016 by jesimps

[jesimps]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

Add, she has no idea what democracy really means nor does she understand the processes which build and protect democracy, so she can't engage in any substantive discussions about democracy. If the EU committee had done it's homework they would know this very clearly.

What a farce.

Being democratically voted in I would say that she knows a great deal more about democracy than those who seized power by force of arms.

The Europeans obviously realise this too.

Edited May 19, 2016 by jesimps

[jayboy]

Right. Since when are facts and politicians together? The most BS comes from politicians! World over.

And just why would anyone believe her account of what democracy is or that she would not be impartial to what she tells them. Her track record of bold faced lies and of hiding true accounts as well as using the word democracy only when it suits her needs should have been enough to keep the UE for from talking to her

Add, she has no idea what democracy really means nor does she understand the processes which build and protect democracy, so she can't engage in any substantive discussions about democracy. If the EU committee had done it's homework they would know this very clearly.

What a farce.

Why do you think she - and by extension the Thai people who gave her a mandate - doesn't understand the process of democracy?

Why do you devote your energies to criticizing a flawed but legitimate government while remaining silent on the appalling situation facing the country. Can't you see your comments on democracy are dishonest and ignorant as you don't face up to the monstrous reality in front of your nose?

And as for the European Parliamentary delegation members I suspect they might have better and more honourable instincts than a few foolish old expatriates.

Edited May 19, 2016 by jayboy

[Srikcir]

the NCPO has no ulterior motives

Prayut had no plans for a coup.

Prayut denied wanting to be PM

The NCPO was formulated before the coup for no reason whatsoever.

The NCPO coordinated its coup with Suthep (according to Suthep) only by accident.

Prayut rules by absolute power for no reason whatsoever.

The NCPO created the NLA, NRSA, CDC, cabinet and replaced Civil Service and police by happenstance.

Prayut has imposed severe restrictions on freedom of expression without any purpose.

Etc.

If truly the NCPO has no ulterior motives, then after 2 years in aimless power it should remove itself from power. Let the Thai people decide their own ulterior motives.