Yingluck Shinawatra steps back into Thailand's political arena

[rubl]

Don't worry Baboon. You're still #1 with your one liners and non-own-opinion.

Anyway, Ms. Yingluck had fun with the kids, that's nice. Maybe she asked them how they spent the holidays.

Yet more off topic twisting and turning from you, and nothing to do with sticking with the topic of 'Yingluck stepping back into the political arena.' It might be seen by some that you are deliberately trying to divert the thread.

But don't worry, rubl. You are still #1 with your smears and barrack room layering.

Interesting reasoning, my dear baboon.

As for the topic, Well I for one didn't know that a kid's school was a political arena. Actually I dislike would-be politicians to misuse kids as such.

[baboon]

Interesting reasoning, my dear baboon.

As for the topic, Well I for one didn't know that a kid's school was a political arena. Actually I dislike would-be politicians to misuse kids as such.

So no answer and yet another attempt at distraction from the topic of 'Yingluck stepping back into the political arena.'

Actually she didn't step back as Jonathan Head accompanied her on looking at the NE Tourist attractions only. Surely if Ms Yingluck was stepping into the political area he would not risk his accreditation ?

"She asked them to name a tourist attraction in their home provinces, and had them cast votes for the top three she should visit.

I accompanied her to the far north-eastern province of Bueng Kan, which lies along a bend in the Mekong River opposite Laos."

So first you you brought schools into it for no reason, now tourist attractions, in order to cast doubt on Jonathan Head's integrity. Is that too based on what someone might or might not have maybe implied despite being uncertain of the geographical location of the aforementioned Mr. Head at any given time? Thanks, but I'll look to another bow tie and cheesy grin elsewhere if I want legal advice.

[candide]

Pitifull... (not you JAG, to avoid misunderstanding)

[metisdead]

Off topic nonsense posts about a Jonathan Head have been removed as well as the replies. The topic is about Yingluck Shinawatra returning to the Thai political arena.

[billd766]

From what I have seen and read on the BBC News programmes over the past few years is that Jonathon Head has more bias in favour of Thaksin Shinawatra, his family and political parties than he has of the Democrats and the opposition.

Having said that I have also noticed that the BBC as a whole over the past 20 odd years has moved its goalposts a lot as well. It is no longer a neutral and trusted news bureau any more.

Whether JH is reflecting his own views or that of the BBC I am not sure at all, perhaps a bit of both.

This is my own personal view.

YMMV

Edited June 4, 2016 by billd766

[halloween]

Did the children's smiles drop when they realised their tablets hadn't finally arrived?

[bobmac10]

She wants suggestions for a spot to visit? Klong Prem is nice this time of year.

Now if your junta leader had not given himself the mother of all amnesty's then that were he would be headed, and had his finances looked at by independent auditor's,

Well one could only guess how long the holiday could be???

Funny you and the few junta huggers are again quiet on the PM's statement regarding the temple stand off and a monk required to appear in court.

Now why is that pumpkin? Just to ridicules a statement to even try to back him up ehhh?

A typical Shinawatra sycophant response, though they usually have better grasp of English; if you don't like what others have to say, try to change the subject.

My post was clearly flippant - we all know she won't be attending anywhere south of Korat voluntarily.

A typical response from you Halloween, an apologist for the junta.

[mrwebb8825]

Have always loved this part: Graduate in political science and business administration, master's degree, Kentucky State University

Kentucky State University is a public co-educational university in Frankfort, Kentucky. Founded in 1886 as the State Normal School for Colored Persons.

Never knew dear Poo was a black woman.

[Jonathon]

Corrupt politicians are as bad as a smelly dog turd on one's shoe but far harder to get rid of and not just in Thailand.

[Chris Lawrence]

Unfortunately Thailand doesn't have a opposition. Yes the headline is misleading but it does suggest a need for a political opposition. If you oppose this bloke in charge you will be tried for treason or some other cock and bull charge. Still it must be a good and well paid gig to hold onto? So it would be good to see Yingluck step up to the plate, just to give some opposition to the current regime.

[tuanku]

It seems to have been forgotten she is still in court over her involvement in the rice pledging scheme.

If found guilty, she will have that to still contend with, a possible jail term & most likely appeals process.

Guess clever "puppeteer from Dubai" come up with a way around Junta laws!!

BBC must be light on for real news items, to have a reporter follow Yingluck around the countryside.

Once out from under the shadow of the military, you can probably expect a whole lot of political verdicts and sentences to be overturned and much of the new laws enacted by the junta to be declared unconstitutional and illegal, including the vaunted charter itself should it get past the referendum. The question is only how long this will take, years if the people don't get fed up enough to throw the junta out, much less than that if there is a mass movement to restore democracy.

And this is news enough for you and me and all the others commenting on this thread to be engaged.

The key word in the article is "telegenic". It is a huge advantage to be more attractive and more dignified and more caring than the opposition in politics, and her manner with people is well judged, unlike Prayuth and any of his fellow military whose innate sense of superiority and entitlement oozes out through every pore.

[tuanku]

Did the children's smiles drop when they realised their tablets hadn't finally arrived?

I doubt it very much, i think they were probably delighted to get a visit from someone "nice and important" who didn't expect them to recite 12 meaningless rules every day of their school lives.

They probably felt valued to receive a visit from the last elected prime minister of Thailand. When they come of age to vote, I am sure they will remember this, if democracy has been restored by then.

They might respond well to a Prayuth visit too - pity he is not likely to have the courage to find out.

[hgma]

now i know why we are suddenly deprived of euro news and the BBC and got i24 the Israeli propaganda 'world' news bloc...................

[halloween]

Did the children's smiles drop when they realised their tablets hadn't finally arrived?

I doubt it very much, i think they were probably delighted to get a visit from someone "nice and important" who didn't expect them to recite 12 meaningless rules every day of their school lives.

They probably felt valued to receive a visit from the last elected prime minister of Thailand. When they come of age to vote, I am sure they will remember this, if democracy has been restored by then.

They might respond well to a Prayuth visit too - pity he is not likely to have the courage to find out.

You are right, as long as it is someone "nice and important", and they are told they will be on TV, they couldn't care less about who it is. But being of the right age, they might remember the broken promise to them specifically, even though they are too young to appreciate the huge waste of public funds involved.

If you have children, try promising them an expensive gadget and then try palming them off with a cheapo piece of crap, or renege completely claiming it was the parent's version of an election promise, only meant to fool the gullible.

Edited June 5, 2016 by halloween

[rubl]

So, Ms. Yingluck held a contents amongst her many Facebook followers to name a tourist attraction in their home province and had them cast votes for the top three attractions Ms. Yingluck should visit. BBC's Jonathan Head went along for this tourism-wise important event.

Following he does mention the tourist attraction (i.e. Ms. Yingluck) and describes her in all possible glory. He even writes

"I was curious, partly to see Ms Yingluck interacting with her supporters, as I was not in Thailand when she had campaigned for the 2011 election, and partly to see whether she could avoid provoking the military, which is clearly nervous of her popular appeal."

Deceitful and conniving. Politics as usual. Foreign intervention as well.

Edited June 5, 2016 by rubl

[baboon]

^^

I'm afraid not. You said: "The BBC got paid by the corrupt Shin clan to accompany Yingluck on a tour to make her look good". That is not an assumption but a direct allegation acording to any dictionary you want to quote. Perhaps you would care to withdraw it?

No withdrawal then, Nickymaster?

[halloween]

If JH had been here for the 2011 campaign he could have attended the rally where Yingluk spontaneously and unilaterally raised PTP's policy price for pledged rice at the urging of a heckler. The change was initially denied by PTP, then accepted to save embarrassment for their leader. It would eventually increase the inevitable losses by billions of baht.

You have to wonder if she would have been so generous, or economically ignorant, if she known it would come out of her own wealth rather than just wasting taxpayers' money.

[Baerboxer]

Always nice to see an Ample Rich nearly billionair playing with kids. Royalty and other elite figures do the same.

A few years ago she even had some help her with her iPad. Did she bring the kids some self-backed cookies?

Careful Rubl, you're beginning to sound like Baerboxer, unless it's a parody of course!

Whereas you always sound like the few others who don't support the Shins but just can't help defending them all the while.

But, as rubl, and anyone who doesn't have rose tinted glasses can see, it's a staged, well organized nice little trip for the benefit of the media. She wants to make sure she in the headlines because that court trial might not go the way she wants. Can't get Chalerm, Tharit and the boys threatening the judges and making comments about decisions and consequences anymore. Best hope "the international community" might be supportive and influence things.

Actually he right. She is an amply rich billionaire. She did promise all children an iPad, "just like hers", but sadly, that was just another lie.

[Baerboxer]

Always nice to see an Ample Rich nearly billionair playing with kids. Royalty and other elite figures do the same.

A few years ago she even had some help her with her iPad. Did she bring the kids some self-backed cookies?

Careful Rubl, you're beginning to sound like Baerboxer, unless it's a parody of course!

Whereas you always sound like the few others who don't support the Shins but just can't help defending them all the while.

But, as rubl, and anyone who doesn't have rose tinted glasses can see, it's a staged, well organized nice little trip for the benefit of the media. She wants to make sure she in the headlines because that court trial might not go the way she wants. Can't get Chalerm, Tharit and the boys threatening the judges and making comments about decisions and consequences anymore. Best hope "the international community" might be supportive and influence things.

Actually he right. She is an amply rich billionaire. She did promise all children an iPad, "just like hers", but sadly, that was just another lie.

[Baerboxer]

^^

I'm afraid not. You said: "The BBC got paid by the corrupt Shin clan to accompany Yingluck on a tour to make her look good". That is not an assumption but a direct allegation acording to any dictionary you want to quote. Perhaps you would care to withdraw it?

No withdrawal then, Nickymaster?

The BBC has it's faults, and certainly exhibits political bias on occasions. But I doubt there is institutionalized bribery and corruption.

Who invited Mr. Head, why more importantly why he was invited, and who paid the associated expenses, are pertinent. As an experienced journalist he would presumably have paid his own expenses so allegations of impropriety couldn't be made.

Mr. Head usually writes, as rubl in the post above yours points out, in a style that is most favorable to the Shins, shows them in the best possible light, suggests unbounded "love" and adulation (his interpretation) and portrays them as some sort of benevolent family who are committed socialists working tirelessly for the people. He rarely makes comments against them and when he as to report something negative about them he does so as briefly and superficially as possible.

Many many journalists producing reports for all sorts of media outlets do exactly the same.

I will not cast aspersions on the gentleman's character or suggest any impropriety. But, I will comment as to how I, and it appears others, find his reporting to exhibit a high bias in preference of the Shiniwatra family and their supporters.

[Baerboxer]

She wants suggestions for a spot to visit? Klong Prem is nice this time of year.

Now if your junta leader had not given himself the mother of all amnesty's then that were he would be headed, and had his finances looked at by independent auditor's,

Well one could only guess how long the holiday could be???

Funny you and the few junta huggers are again quiet on the PM's statement regarding the temple stand off and a monk required to appear in court.

Now why is that pumpkin? Just to ridicules a statement to even try to back him up ehhh?

A typical Shinawatra sycophant response, though they usually have better grasp of English; if you don't like what others have to say, try to change the subject.

My post was clearly flippant - we all know she won't be attending anywhere south of Korat voluntarily.

A typical response from you Halloween, an apologist for the junta.

Speaking out against the Shiniwatra clan and their cronies does not make someone an apologist for the junta; anymore than speaking out against the junta makes some one a Shin supporter or apologist.

That's similar to the left wing Liberals who call anybody who doesn't accept their arguments as fascist.

[Baerboxer]

It seems to have been forgotten she is still in court over her involvement in the rice pledging scheme.

If found guilty, she will have that to still contend with, a possible jail term & most likely appeals process.

Guess clever "puppeteer from Dubai" come up with a way around Junta laws!!

BBC must be light on for real news items, to have a reporter follow Yingluck around the countryside.

Once out from under the shadow of the military, you can probably expect a whole lot of political verdicts and sentences to be overturned and much of the new laws enacted by the junta to be declared unconstitutional and illegal, including the vaunted charter itself should it get past the referendum. The question is only how long this will take, years if the people don't get fed up enough to throw the junta out, much less than that if there is a mass movement to restore democracy.

And this is news enough for you and me and all the others commenting on this thread to be engaged.

The key word in the article is "telegenic". It is a huge advantage to be more attractive and more dignified and more caring than the opposition in politics, and her manner with people is well judged, unlike Prayuth and any of his fellow military whose innate sense of superiority and entitlement oozes out through every pore.

Telegenic - absolutely. She is of the most telegenic and photogenic pretend politicians in the world. Absolutely one, if not the best. Her brother certainly knew what he was doing when he picked her as the pretty to front his political party.

"Dignified and Caring" - your're having a laugh! Good actress most certainly although she forgets her lines or muddles them up occasionally.

[The stuttering parrot]

Once again just the name of Yingluck has caused so many responses .

Why?

It's pretty simple. It doesn't matter whether you support the

Yingluck Abhisit or the Current bloke in charge or for that matter another party.

If elections were held fair and square today Yingluck would landslide it.

Given the changes being proposed that just might not be the case.

[halloween]

Once again just the name of Yingluck has caused so many responses .

Why?

It's pretty simple. It doesn't matter whether you support the

Yingluck Abhisit or the Current bloke in charge or for that matter another party.

If elections were held fair and square today Yingluck would landslide it.

Given the changes being proposed that just might not be the case.

After her last attempt, you can't see why many people have serious objections to that?

[Nickymaster]

Wearing a red blouse and at the same time blaming PM Prayuth for not being able to solve division in the country...

[Nickymaster]

Once again just the name of Yingluck has caused so many responses .

Why?

It's pretty simple. It doesn't matter whether you support the

Yingluck Abhisit or the Current bloke in charge or for that matter another party.

If elections were held fair and square today Yingluck would landslide it.

Given the changes being proposed that just might not be the case.

I think you forget that when she was PM she never answered any questions the opposition had. She hardly showed up in parliament. Her only, almost, achievement was clearing the Shin clan of their crimes. Elections are not the solution to fixing corruption and fake red democracy. Edited June 5, 2016 by Nickymaster

[MaxLee]

When is court hearing number 10??? 10 years later???

[baboon]

^^

I'm afraid not. You said: "The BBC got paid by the corrupt Shin clan to accompany Yingluck on a tour to make her look good". That is not an assumption but a direct allegation acording to any dictionary you want to quote. Perhaps you would care to withdraw it?

No withdrawal then, Nickymaster?

The BBC has it's faults, and certainly exhibits political bias on occasions. But I doubt there is institutionalized bribery and corruption.

Who invited Mr. Head, why more importantly why he was invited, and who paid the associated expenses, are pertinent. As an experienced journalist he would presumably have paid his own expenses so allegations of impropriety couldn't be made.

Mr. Head usually writes, as rubl in the post above yours points out, in a style that is most favorable to the Shins, shows them in the best possible light, suggests unbounded "love" and adulation (his interpretation) and portrays them as some sort of benevolent family who are committed socialists working tirelessly for the people. He rarely makes comments against them and when he as to report something negative about them he does so as briefly and superficially as possible.

Many many journalists producing reports for all sorts of media outlets do exactly the same.

I will not cast aspersions on the gentleman's character or suggest any impropriety. But, I will comment as to how I, and it appears others, find his reporting to exhibit a high bias in preference of the Shiniwatra family and their supporters.

Perfectly reasonable and valid comment.

[jayboy]

Once again just the name of Yingluck has caused so many responses .

Why?

It's pretty simple. It doesn't matter whether you support the

Yingluck Abhisit or the Current bloke in charge or for that matter another party.

If elections were held fair and square today Yingluck would landslide it.

Given the changes being proposed that just might not be the case.

You are quite correct.What drives some people crazy is the knowledge - though they would never admit it even to themselves - that she is by a great length the most popular politician in the country.Added to this she was the last legitimate Prime Minister and was acknowledged as such internationally - in contrast to the current coolness by all free societies towards Thailand's rulers.

Actually there is a lot to criticise Yingluck for.By any reasonable criteria she was unqualified to be PM as is the case with the current PM, the difference being one was legitimate and one is not.She has a certain charisma and although not unintelligent would not normally be considered to have the necessary skill set.

The critics of Yingluck might be pardoned even endorsed if they showed some moral integrity or balance.If one saw some evidence they had equal distaste for the repression,arrogance and incompetence of the current Junta and its appointed stooges.But that we never see.

[tuanku]

If JH had been here for the 2011 campaign he could have attended the rally where Yingluk spontaneously and unilaterally raised PTP's policy price for pledged rice at the urging of a heckler. The change was initially denied by PTP, then accepted to save embarrassment for their leader. It would eventually increase the inevitable losses by billions of baht.

You have to wonder if she would have been so generous, or economically ignorant, if she known it would come out of her own wealth rather than just wasting taxpayers' money.

The government putting public funds back into the economy as subsidies is a well accepted part of Government practice worldwide and is also done by the current sham government. The idea is not the issue, its exploitation for private gain and mismanagement is, and that is what the generals are trying to pin on Yingluck.

However money recirculated in the economy is not "lost" at all. It is just recirculated.