PM advises Thais to "use their brains and intellect" in wake of Tiger Temple raids

[WhizBang]

This is the blind leading the blind.

[lvr181]

"They" were using their brains and intellect (and privileged position) for their own benefit!

Not unlike many others unfortunately.

[mesterm]

"So don't think that all monks or all temples display good conduct. Conduct can be rotten to the core. Open your hearts and use your intellect to discover the truth."

Is this guy muslim?

"...use your intellect to discover the truth." doesn't sound like any muslim that I've heard of.

[zyphodb]

BANGKOK:-- Following the raids on the Tiger Temple in Kanchanaburi PM Prayut has advised Thais not to be gullible and to think things through clearly using their brains and intellect.

Speechless.....

[Winniedapu]

So he's trying to persuade everyone that nothing really happened at the 'Tiger temple'..?

Tell you what Mr...check the freezer contents..it most certainly happened for them..!!!

What on earth are you going on about?

He is actually telling people not to trust places simply because they are temples.

Read this part again - "Who could believe that such goings on could happen at a temple, " he said. It was good that a search was carried out to discover the truth and people should be careful before putting their trust in such places.

The opposite to your comment.

Yes,..you are right in this, and most people read and remember just what they want and forget the essential message....it is called "Congivit Dissonance"

Best regards.

That's not what cognitive dissonance is.

W

[djlest]

well the Tiger artifacts could easily have been planted by the police - lets not forget that.

however - https://www.facebook.com/NewOnNetflixUSA/posts/10153369770449751

I think its important to not forget places like NONG NUCH Gardens too, which you can find drugged tigers sprawling around for 20 baht a shot photos... it seems there will now be an extra 150 tigers ready to be moved around all the local attractions soon.

one of the problems with the Tiger temple was interbreeding, the head monk said in the documentary - if he heard the tigers getting frisky, he would open the cage and let a female in, afterall tigers have feelings too, just like humans do. hmmmm ok Einstein... so 3 tigers becomes 150 because you promote sexual behaviour with tigers... i can just see how it goes down with frisky monks too.,

[Nbarch]

PM Prayut has advised Thais not to be gullible and to think things through clearly using their brains and intellect.

Is he talking about elections and democracy?

[neeray]

Maybe closing down Tiger Temple will be the beginning of the end for other temples who practice less than good moral standards.

[ggt]

"Use their brains and intellect"...

This is an obvious lead-in to Thai bashing for anyone who has lived her for any length of time...

Thais and Thailand will be known for many things..."Brains and Intellect"...will not be among them...

[toybits]

Self-censored: Posting an opinion may be harmful for my health.

Why?

Are you farang? You don't understand? I politely recommend that you heed the PM's advice.

I farang yes, understand do. You, no farang na?

For a farang, you speak really atrocious English...

Edited June 5, 2016 by toybits

[tukkytuktuk]

Sticks and stones.

[Johpa]

These comments are taken from the book of Issara the mad monk who is doing his best to bring down Thai Buddhism. Issara and Suthep with their facist agenda are restarting, resetting and reforming to suit the elite's roadmap for continued control of the masses.

In the international headlines Thai Buddhism is portrayed as a laughing stock.

Perhaps they are just taking advantage of an extended vacuum. There is no Buddhadasa Bhikkhu nor a reformer like King Mongkut in the wings to counter this current trend found throughout the Theravada neighborhood such as seen in Burma as well. But the Thai elite, the Bangkok Sino-Thai and their second class partners the former high sakdina families, are certainly not alone in attempting to control the masses or having a fascist underlying agenda and learn and use the techniques refined by the western countries but used with more ruthlessness such as the jailing for even mild online dissent.

[ableguy]

Self-censored: Posting an opinion may be harmful for my health.

Why?

Are you farang? You don't understand? I politely recommend that you heed the PM's advice.

I farang yes, understand do. You, no farang na?

For a farang, you speak really atrocious English...

I think you should all go to bed, get some sleep, wake up and wonder what you were doing yesterday.

[shawn000]

"Open your hearts and use your intellect to discover the truth."

But keep your mouth shut unless you yourself can prove that truth beyond all reasonable doubt in a court of law.

[shawn000]

well the Tiger artifacts could easily have been planted by the police - lets not forget that.

however - https://www.facebook.com/NewOnNetflixUSA/posts/10153369770449751

I think its important to not forget places like NONG NUCH Gardens too, which you can find drugged tigers sprawling around for 20 baht a shot photos... it seems there will now be an extra 150 tigers ready to be moved around all the local attractions soon.

one of the problems with the Tiger temple was interbreeding, the head monk said in the documentary - if he heard the tigers getting frisky, he would open the cage and let a female in, afterall tigers have feelings too, just like humans do. hmmmm ok Einstein... so 3 tigers becomes 150 because you promote sexual behaviour with tigers... i can just see how it goes down with frisky monks too.,

If they really did manage to breed the few that were given to them into 150+ in that period of time, that would make them the most successful tiger breeding program ever.

[sugarcane24]

"PM Prayut has advised Thais not to be gullible and to think things through clearly using their brains and intellect."

Hmmm ... a few years ago a Thai university lecturer published a book about democracy - which was promptly banned as it was deemed a threat to law and order. Surely PM Prayut's revolutionary comment presents a similar threat to the status quo?

[sugarcane24]

well the Tiger artifacts could easily have been planted by the police - lets not forget that.

however - https://www.facebook.com/NewOnNetflixUSA/posts/10153369770449751

I think its important to not forget places like NONG NUCH Gardens too, which you can find drugged tigers sprawling around for 20 baht a shot photos... it seems there will now be an extra 150 tigers ready to be moved around all the local attractions soon.

one of the problems with the Tiger temple was interbreeding, the head monk said in the documentary - if he heard the tigers getting frisky, he would open the cage and let a female in, afterall tigers have feelings too, just like humans do. hmmmm ok Einstein... so 3 tigers becomes 150 because you promote sexual behaviour with tigers... i can just see how it goes down with frisky monks too.,

"I can just just see how it goes down with frisky monks too."

Are you by any chance accusing the monks of bestiality?

Your remark reminds me of an incident in one of John Steinbeck's novels. A farm boy and the neighbour's daughter are sitting by the corral watching a young bull have intercourse with the boy's pet heifer. The boy - getting more aroused by the minute - looks at the girl and prompted by wishful thinking says to her: "I really want to do that too!"

The girl: "Why don't you - she's your heifer!"

[cekipa]

Using brain and intellect ? Sounds 'mission impossible' to me

[sugarcane24]

well the Tiger artifacts could easily have been planted by the police - lets not forget that.

however - https://www.facebook.com/NewOnNetflixUSA/posts/10153369770449751

I think its important to not forget places like NONG NUCH Gardens too, which you can find drugged tigers sprawling around for 20 baht a shot photos... it seems there will now be an extra 150 tigers ready to be moved around all the local attractions soon.

one of the problems with the Tiger temple was interbreeding, the head monk said in the documentary - if he heard the tigers getting frisky, he would open the cage and let a female in, afterall tigers have feelings too, just like humans do. hmmmm ok Einstein... so 3 tigers becomes 150 because you promote sexual behaviour with tigers... i can just see how it goes down with frisky monks too.,

"I can just just see how it goes down with frisky monks too."

Are you by any chance accusing the monks of bestiality?

Your remark reminds me of an incident in one of John Steinbeck's novels. A farm boy and the neighbour's daughter are sitting by the corral watching a young bull have intercourse with the boy's pet heifer. The boy - getting more aroused by the minute - looks at the girl and prompted by wishful thinking says to her: "I really want to do that too!"

The girl: "Why don't you - she's your heifer!"

[bangon04]

""So don't think that all monks or all temples display good conduct. Conduct can be rotten to the core. Open your hearts and use your intellect to discover the truth.""

If all Thais actually took him literally, the Saffron Mafia would be starved out in a couple of years.

Actually the Thais do see to be using their brains - they are farming tigers for body parts to sell to the Chinese at ridiculous prices. Good business for them.

Much better returns than rotten rice farming in a drought.....

Edited June 5, 2016 by bangon04

[Siamwhiteelephant]

Well, I'll give him credit where credit is due. Glad to see this issue of how it happened isn't being evaded at this stage. Yet the analogy that some monks' “conduct can be rotten to the core” to seeing a soldier in uniform who may be “sick not healthy” raises another pressing concern:

the lack of proper vetting and screening of monks and soldiers when they are ordained and recruited or the lack of apt supervision with accountabilty and monitoring of them during their service. Corrupt monks should be promptly identified, charged, and declothed. Unhealthy soldiers should be promptly identified, diagnosed, and treated or honourably discharged. The principle applies to other occupations.

[MaiChai]

Prayut should tell buddhists to not give money to temples and monks. Leading a simple pios life of a monk means you dont need anything other than donations of food.

[selftaopath]

So he's trying to persuade everyone that nothing really happened at the 'Tiger temple'..?

Tell you what Mr...check the freezer contents..it most certainly happened for them..!!!

What on earth are you going on about?

He is actually telling people not to trust places simply because they are temples.

Read this part again - "Who could believe that such goings on could happen at a temple, " he said. It was good that a search was carried out to discover the truth and people should be careful before putting their trust in such places.

The opposite to your comment.

Yes,..you are right in this, and most people read and remember just what they want and forget the essential message....it is called "Congivit Dissonance"

Best regards.

Cognitive dissonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

Wikipedia

In psychology, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values ...

[Skeptic7]

"Who could believe that such goings on could happen at a temple?"

Alot of us not only easily believe it, but SUSPECTED all was not as it seemed there. I've warned all friends, both Thai and tourist, for decades not to support these places. The same about zoos, circuses, Sea World and similar.

The only surprise it that is has been uncovered; exposed and shut down.

NEXT!

[Keesters]

PM Prayut has advised Thais not to be gullible and to think things through clearly using their brains and intellect.

This from a man who thought placing income level on ID cards was a good idea.

[Katipo]

"So don't think that all monks or all temples display good conduct. Conduct can be rotten to the core. Open your hearts and use your intellect to discover the truth."

Is this guy muslim?

Nope.. he is not .. this is just a realistic thing to say. Can fault him for many things but these comments are valid.

Unless you use that heart and intellect to discover and speak the truth about the current administration.

You can't tell people to use their brains but then take them in for attitude adjustment when you don't like what they say. Well, in a dictatorship it seems you can actually.

[allan michaud]

"So don't think that all monks or all temples display good conduct. Conduct can be rotten to the core. Open your hearts and use your intellect to discover the truth."

Is this guy muslim?

"...use your intellect to discover the truth." doesn't sound like any muslim that I've heard of.

You people are serious <deleted>, I take it you have never actually traveled Muslim countries or even met Muslims.

[gaijinsomchai]

Not going to touch this one. Low hanging fruit.

[tukkytuktuk]

These comments are taken from the book of Issara the mad monk who is doing his best to bring down Thai Buddhism. Issara and Suthep with their facist agenda are restarting, resetting and reforming to suit the elite's roadmap for continued control of the masses.

In the international headlines Thai Buddhism is portrayed as a laughing stock.

Perhaps they are just taking advantage of an extended vacuum. There is no Buddhadasa Bhikkhu nor a reformer like King Mongkut in the wings to counter this current trend found throughout the Theravada neighborhood such as seen in Burma as well. But the Thai elite, the Bangkok Sino-Thai and their second class partners the former high sakdina families, are certainly not alone in attempting to control the masses or having a fascist underlying agenda and learn and use the techniques refined by the western countries but used with more ruthlessness such as the jailing for even mild online dissent.

I couldn't of Wikipedia-ed it any better myself.

[lvr181]

"Who could believe that such goings on could happen at a temple?"

Alot of us not only easily believe it, but SUSPECTED all was not as it seemed there. I've warned all friends, both Thai and tourist, for decades not to support these places. The same about zoos, circuses, Sea World and similar.

The only surprise it that is has been uncovered; exposed and shut down.

NEXT!

Are you using your brain and intellect?

In my country we have a Sea World that spends considerable resources in saving endangered ocean life. I do not see anyone else putting up the money to do that. You would want them closed down?

We also have a theme park that breeds tigers for conservation purposes. And this is paid for by those visiting the theme park. You would want them closed down also?

Put up your viable alternative? The world is not a perfect place.