British PM slams some Brexiters’ arguments as ‘untruths’

[dick dasterdly]

So far a few answers, but none at the OP, about the Brexiters telling lies.

Probably the most famous untruth is the 350,000,000 pound per week UK payment to the EU which was painted on the side of Boris's Brexit Battle Bus.

brexit bus.jpg

Next to the claim that any money we save by leaving the EU will be spent on the NHS by the very people who want to privatize the NHS.

Can't be bothered to check - is that true?

[sawadee1947]

Cameron expects UK people to believe him??

This man is living in LA-LA land.

He could not tell the truth if his life depended on it.

2009 leave the EU, 2015 i will get a better deal for UK.

2016 we must stay in, we will not survive alone.

What a moron.

What a moron who wants to leave EU

[sawadee1947]

Cameron has an EU job after he leaves office. Just like his predecessors. No EU, NO JOB for Cameron!

How stupid are you to think he's looking for a job? Because you envy him? If you would have any brain you would have achieved a bit more in your life instead only looking from one bottle to the next

[dick dasterdly]

Cameron expects UK people to believe him??

This man is living in LA-LA land.

He could not tell the truth if his life depended on it.

2009 leave the EU, 2015 i will get a better deal for UK.

2016 we must stay in, we will not survive alone.

What a moron.

What a moron who wants to leave EU

Heavy sigh. Try making some valid contribution to the thread rather than just insults.

[dick dasterdly]

Cameron has an EU job after he leaves office. Just like his predecessors. No EU, NO JOB for Cameron!

How stupid are you to think he's looking for a job? Because you envy him? If you would have any brain you would have achieved a bit more in your life instead only looking from one bottle to the next

And I thought the previous comment from this poster was stupid??

[kingalfred]

If the UK votes for Brexit, I shall move back to Luxembourg where I am currently resident, apply for Luxembourgish citizenship and, assuming I get it, my British passport can go down the toilet to be washed away by all the bullshit from the Brexit camp.

To leave the EU, to me, would be an act of treason to all our friends and allies in the EU who have put up with our non-stop moaning about it since the day we joined. If Brexit is the decision then I hope the EU screws Britain over in every possible way it can and there will be plenty of ways...trust me, I used to work there!

Luxembourg City, Frankfurt and Paris all want a piece of the action currently enjoyed by the City of London; with a free hand and no veto from the UK they can make life very, very difficult for the City and very easy for the European capitals who want that business. Go ahead leave! Bear in mind that if the UK wants to continue selling into Europe, they still have to meet all the current European standards and any new ones that the EU drams up but the UK gets no say in what they might be.

Oh and by the way, once the UK has left, you can employ and train 1000s or maybe 10s of 1000s more civil servants to take over all the administrative jobs that are currently done by EU agencies like EASA, the European Aviation Safety Agency who look after pilot training standards, aircraft type licensing, Europe wide air traffic control issues, the European airline blacklist and a host of other rather important safety related jobs, the European Medicines Agency who look after drug licensing in the EU, the European Chemicals Agency who look after chemical safety, the European Maritime Safety Agency the list is endless. I guess Britain can make use of some of the 100s of British EU civil servants who will presumably lose their jobs once Britain leaves as they will no longer meet one criterion for employment in the EU civil service; namely that an EU civil servant shall be a citizen of a member country. At least if they were previously EU civil servants they will be competent and highly trained unlike their British counterparts; am I being unfair to the British civil service? No I am emphatically not! The British civil service seem to be incompetent to run even the smallest project ( http://tartley.com/?p=229 ) as if the disaster that was the ID Database project wasn't bad enough, there was the much vaunted CSA the child support agency that made millions of people's lives a complete misery and completely failed to achieve any of its goals; some might say, failed to achieve anything at all! Then there was tax credits system which failed to pay people who needed and were entitled to money but paid out £ billions to fraudsters instead. However, the the daddy of them all has to be the NHS IT project which has so far cost the British taxpayer £10 billion, yes that's right TEN THOUSAND MILLION POUNDS Sterling and it is a complete, total failure. The last estimate I read from the government's own auditors said that around 60% of the government's projects were in danger of failure. The British civil service is one of the least competent in the entire western world and the Brexiters want it to take on roles like aviation safety and medicine safety...really???

a rant of fiction if ever I've seen

[Jonmarleesco]

Well, Dave should know more than any mere brexiter about untruths.

[nontabury]

Leave the EU campaign is purely based on sentiment, not commonsense. But if the UK does leave the EU, many Brits here will be regretting the decision. The GB Pound will plummet. Pensioners will feel it most and those who have investments in the UK.

It may go down slightly for a while,as the markets do not like uncertainty,then it will regain it's market position.However there is No truth that the world will end if the UK gains democratic control over its borders.

Edited June 8, 2016 by nontabury

[nontabury]

If the UK votes for Brexit, I shall move back to Luxembourg where I am currently resident, apply for Luxembourgish citizenship and, assuming I get it, my British passport can go down the toilet to be washed away by all the bullshit from the Brexit camp.

To leave the EU, to me, would be an act of treason to all our friends and allies in the EU who have put up with our non-stop moaning about it since the day we joined. If Brexit is the decision then I hope the EU screws Britain over in every possible way it can and there will be plenty of ways...trust me, I used to work there!

Luxembourg City, Frankfurt and Paris all want a piece of the action currently enjoyed by the City of London; with a free hand and no veto from the UK they can make life very, very difficult for the City and very easy for the European capitals who want that business. Go ahead leave! Bear in mind that if the UK wants to continue selling into Europe, they still have to meet all the current European standards and any new ones that the EU drams up but the UK gets no say in what they might be.

Oh and by the way, once the UK has left, you can employ and train 1000s or maybe 10s of 1000s more civil servants to take over all the administrative jobs that are currently done by EU agencies like EASA, the European Aviation Safety Agency who look after pilot training standards, aircraft type licensing, Europe wide air traffic control issues, the European airline blacklist and a host of other rather important safety related jobs, the European Medicines Agency who look after drug licensing in the EU, the European Chemicals Agency who look after chemical safety, the European Maritime Safety Agency the list is endless. I guess Britain can make use of some of the 100s of British EU civil servants who will presumably lose their jobs once Britain leaves as they will no longer meet one criterion for employment in the EU civil service; namely that an EU civil servant shall be a citizen of a member country. At least if they were previously EU civil servants they will be competent and highly trained unlike their British counterparts; am I being unfair to the British civil service? No I am emphatically not! The British civil service seem to be incompetent to run even the smallest project ( http://tartley.com/?p=229 ) as if the disaster that was the ID Database project wasn't bad enough, there was the much vaunted CSA the child support agency that made millions of people's lives a complete misery and completely failed to achieve any of its goals; some might say, failed to achieve anything at all! Then there was tax credits system which failed to pay people who needed and were entitled to money but paid out £ billions to fraudsters instead. However, the the daddy of them all has to be the NHS IT project which has so far cost the British taxpayer £10 billion, yes that's right TEN THOUSAND MILLION POUNDS Sterling and it is a complete, total failure. The last estimate I read from the government's own auditors said that around 60% of the government's projects were in danger of failure. The British civil service is one of the least competent in the entire western world and the Brexiters want it to take on roles like aviation safety and medicine safety...really???

Good bye.

[pitrevie]

So far a few answers, but none at the OP, about the Brexiters telling lies.

Probably the most famous untruth is the 350,000,000 pound per week UK payment to the EU which was painted on the side of Boris's Brexit Battle Bus.

brexit bus.jpg

Next to the claim that any money we save by leaving the EU will be spent on the NHS by the very people who want to privatize the NHS.

Can't be bothered to check - is that true?

Well it was Michael Gove who stated as such and the extreme right of the Tory Party who wants us out are not doing it so that they can use the money saved to pump into the NHS.

[RuamRudy]

Cameron has an EU job after he leaves office. Just like his predecessors. No EU, NO JOB for Cameron!

How stupid are you to think he's looking for a job? Because you envy him? If you would have any brain you would have achieved a bit more in your life instead only looking from one bottle to the next

To be fair, if his father had been an honest, tax-paying tradesman who contributed to society, rather than a tax-avoiding stockbroker who created nothing of value for the greater good, it is highly likely that we would not have this ineffective clown of a man as our Prime Minister. He is there merely through an accident of birth and an undeserved sense of entitlement. The same can be said for Bojo and most of the cabinet.

[Speedo1968]

I wonder how many of you have got your right to do a postal or proxy vote registered ? It's the last day TODAY !!!

[connda]

Like people should trust a man who has sex with pigs, although he'd argue that to be an 'untruth' too.

[Ulic]

Well stating as an absolute fact that WW3 would follow as a result of a UK vote to leave

is as big a porky pie as any. Cameron certainly has on claim on running a campaign of

truth and facts.

[SheungWan]

Cameron has an EU job after he leaves office. Just like his predecessors. No EU, NO JOB for Cameron!

How stupid are you to think he's looking for a job? Because you envy him? If you would have any brain you would have achieved a bit more in your life instead only looking from one bottle to the next

To be fair, if his father had been an honest, tax-paying tradesman who contributed to society, rather than a tax-avoiding stockbroker who created nothing of value for the greater good, it is highly likely that we would not have this ineffective clown of a man as our Prime Minister. He is there merely through an accident of birth and an undeserved sense of entitlement. The same can be said for Bojo and most of the cabinet.

If there is one thing that appears to go with a significant percentage of BREXITeers at least on this forum it is the juvenile populism typified by the contribution immediately above.

[SheungWan]

Like people should trust a man who has sex with pigs, although he'd argue that to be an 'untruth' too.

.....like people should listen to Thailand-based BREXITeers who prefer dogs.

[RuamRudy]

Cameron has an EU job after he leaves office. Just like his predecessors. No EU, NO JOB for Cameron!

How stupid are you to think he's looking for a job? Because you envy him? If you would have any brain you would have achieved a bit more in your life instead only looking from one bottle to the next

To be fair, if his father had been an honest, tax-paying tradesman who contributed to society, rather than a tax-avoiding stockbroker who created nothing of value for the greater good, it is highly likely that we would not have this ineffective clown of a man as our Prime Minister. He is there merely through an accident of birth and an undeserved sense of entitlement. The same can be said for Bojo and most of the cabinet.

If there is one thing that appears to go with a significant percentage of BREXITeers at least on this forum it is the juvenile populism typified by the contribution immediately above.

Sorry to dispel your illusions but I firmly believe in remaining in a reformed EU.

As for juvenile, do you care to specify what is juvenile about it? Populist it may be, and certainly it is lacking in analysis or finesse, but this is ThaiVisa, not the Debating Chamber of Oxford. I was suggesting that, contrary to the inference of Sawadee1947, our Prime Minister is remarkable only in his unremarkable qualities, and that were he the son of a working class man, he would never have reached Downing Street.

[RuamRudy]

Like people should trust a man who has sex with pigs, although he'd argue that to be an 'untruth' too.

.....like people should listen to Thailand-based BREXITeers who prefer dogs.

Nice to see that you are elevating the tone there.

[SheungWan]

Like people should trust a man who has sex with pigs, although he'd argue that to be an 'untruth' too.

.....like people should listen to Thailand-based BREXITeers who prefer dogs.

Nice to see that you are elevating the tone there.

[arjunadawn]

If the UK votes for Brexit, I shall move back to Luxembourg where I am currently resident, apply for Luxembourgish citizenship and, assuming I get it, my British passport can go down the toilet to be washed away by all the bullshit from the Brexit camp.

To leave the EU, to me, would be an act of treason to all our friends and allies in the EU who have put up with our non-stop moaning about it since the day we joined. If Brexit is the decision then I hope the EU screws Britain over in every possible way it can and there will be plenty of ways...trust me, I used to work there!

Luxembourg City, Frankfurt and Paris all want a piece of the action currently enjoyed by the City of London; with a free hand and no veto from the UK they can make life very, very difficult for the City and very easy for the European capitals who want that business. Go ahead leave! Bear in mind that if the UK wants to continue selling into Europe, they still have to meet all the current European standards and any new ones that the EU drams up but the UK gets no say in what they might be.

Oh and by the way, once the UK has left, you can employ and train 1000s or maybe 10s of 1000s more civil servants to take over all the administrative jobs that are currently done by EU agencies like EASA, the European Aviation Safety Agency who look after pilot training standards, aircraft type licensing, Europe wide air traffic control issues, the European airline blacklist and a host of other rather important safety related jobs, the European Medicines Agency who look after drug licensing in the EU, the European Chemicals Agency who look after chemical safety, the European Maritime Safety Agency the list is endless. I guess Britain can make use of some of the 100s of British EU civil servants who will presumably lose their jobs once Britain leaves as they will no longer meet one criterion for employment in the EU civil service; namely that an EU civil servant shall be a citizen of a member country. At least if they were previously EU civil servants they will be competent and highly trained unlike their British counterparts; am I being unfair to the British civil service? No I am emphatically not! The British civil service seem to be incompetent to run even the smallest project ( http://tartley.com/?p=229 ) as if the disaster that was the ID Database project wasn't bad enough, there was the much vaunted CSA the child support agency that made millions of people's lives a complete misery and completely failed to achieve any of its goals; some might say, failed to achieve anything at all! Then there was tax credits system which failed to pay people who needed and were entitled to money but paid out £ billions to fraudsters instead. However, the the daddy of them all has to be the NHS IT project which has so far cost the British taxpayer £10 billion, yes that's right TEN THOUSAND MILLION POUNDS Sterling and it is a complete, total failure. The last estimate I read from the government's own auditors said that around 60% of the government's projects were in danger of failure. The British civil service is one of the least competent in the entire western world and the Brexiters want it to take on roles like aviation safety and medicine safety...really???

It's thinking like this the UK must flee. "Hope screws over..." What sort of mind wishes this on a whole people?

[nontabury]

If the UK votes for Brexit, I shall move back to Luxembourg where I am currently resident, apply for Luxembourgish citizenship and, assuming I get it, my British passport can go down the toilet to be washed away by all the bullshit from the Brexit camp.

To leave the EU, to me, would be an act of treason to all our friends and allies in the EU who have put up with our non-stop moaning about it since the day we joined. If Brexit is the decision then I hope the EU screws Britain over in every possible way it can and there will be plenty of ways...trust me, I used to work there!

Luxembourg City, Frankfurt and Paris all want a piece of the action currently enjoyed by the City of London; with a free hand and no veto from the UK they can make life very, very difficult for the City and very easy for the European capitals who want that business. Go ahead leave! Bear in mind that if the UK wants to continue selling into Europe, they still have to meet all the current European standards and any new ones that the EU drams up but the UK gets no say in what they might be.

Oh and by the way, once the UK has left, you can employ and train 1000s or maybe 10s of 1000s more civil servants to take over all the administrative jobs that are currently done by EU agencies like EASA, the European Aviation Safety Agency who look after pilot training standards, aircraft type licensing, Europe wide air traffic control issues, the European airline blacklist and a host of other rather important safety related jobs, the European Medicines Agency who look after drug licensing in the EU, the European Chemicals Agency who look after chemical safety, the European Maritime Safety Agency the list is endless. I guess Britain can make use of some of the 100s of British EU civil servants who will presumably lose their jobs once Britain leaves as they will no longer meet one criterion for employment in the EU civil service; namely that an EU civil servant shall be a citizen of a member country. At least if they were previously EU civil servants they will be competent and highly trained unlike their British counterparts; am I being unfair to the British civil service? No I am emphatically not! The British civil service seem to be incompetent to run even the smallest project ( http://tartley.com/?p=229 ) as if the disaster that was the ID Database project wasn't bad enough, there was the much vaunted CSA the child support agency that made millions of people's lives a complete misery and completely failed to achieve any of its goals; some might say, failed to achieve anything at all! Then there was tax credits system which failed to pay people who needed and were entitled to money but paid out £ billions to fraudsters instead. However, the the daddy of them all has to be the NHS IT project which has so far cost the British taxpayer £10 billion, yes that's right TEN THOUSAND MILLION POUNDS Sterling and it is a complete, total failure. The last estimate I read from the government's own auditors said that around 60% of the government's projects were in danger of failure. The British civil service is one of the least competent in the entire western world and the Brexiters want it to take on roles like aviation safety and medicine safety...really???

It's thinking like this the UK must flee. "Hope screws over..." What sort of mind wishes this on a whole people?

I think the poster you are replying to, is employed or has been employed as one of those well paid consultants to the EU. Another case of. "I alright Jack".