Sanders 'disappointed' and 'upset' at news of Clinton's win

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Sanders 'disappointed' and 'upset' at news of Clinton's win
By KEN THOMAS

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Bernie Sanders said Tuesday he was "really disappointed" and "upset" that The Associated Press declared rival Hillary Clinton the presumptive Democratic nominee on the eve of primary elections in six states, adding a somewhat muted voice to the outrage expressed by many of his supporters.

In an interview with NBC News, Sanders expressed concern that the news of Clinton's victory came the night before "the largest primary" and that it was based on what he described as "anonymous" commitments from superdelegtes — the party insiders and Democratic officials who can vote for the candidate of their choice at the summer convention.

"They got on the phone as I understand it, and started hounding superdelegates to tell them in an anonymous way who they were voting for. The night before the largest primary, biggest primary in the whole process, they make this announcement," he said. "So I was really disappointed in what The AP did."

The AP's delegate count is based on pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses, as well as a survey of superdelegates. The AP only included superdelegates in its tally if they said they would unequivocally vote for Clinton or Sanders at the convention.

According to the AP's count, Clinton secured the commitments of enough delegates to become the presumptive nominee on Monday night, the day before primary elections in California, New Jersey and four other states.

Asked if he believed the news might suppress the vote, Sanders demurred, repeating that he was disappointed in the decision.

Sanders' tone didn't match the anger expressed by some of his supporters, who vehemently protested the decision of the AP and several television networks to report on Clinton's delegate count Monday night.

"When the mainstream media calls the polls, calls the election, because they're already planning to do it to suppress the vote in California, we will fight on," Nina Turner, a former Ohio state senator and one of Sanders' top surrogates, said at a Monday night campaign rally.

Morgan Reed, a rafting guide from Mendicino, California, attended the rally and said it was unseemly for the media to call the race for Clinton so close to the start of voting in California, warning that it amounted to "disenfranchising the vote."

"It's ridiculous. California is the biggest state in the nation," she said.

Patrick Bryant of San Francisco, who also attended the Sanders' rally, said the decision was disappointing: "It's what bookies do. They call fights before they're over."

On Tuesday, that frustration was evident on social media, as angry Sanders' supporters accused the AP and the television networks of stifling voter turnout and relying upon superdelegates who won't formally cast their vote until the party's Philadelphia convention in July.

Clinton now has the support of 1,812 pledged delegates won in primaries and caucuses, and the support of 571 superdelegates — adding up to the 2,383 needed to become the presumptive nominee.

In the AP's survey, which began in late 2015, no superdelegate has flipped support from Clinton to Sanders. None has suggested that could happen.

Since their creation in 1982, superdelegates have rarely strayed from their original endorsements — unless there is a change in the pledged delegate tally. In 2008, some superdelegates flipped from Clinton to Barack Obama after he overcame her early lead in pledged delegates."

Clinton's faithful also worried that the call might affect turnout in California, where the former secretary of state seeks victory to stifle Sanders' momentum. Said actress Eva Longoria during a Clinton fundraising concert in Los Angeles: "Don't let that keep you away tomorrow. We need California. We need New Jersey, we need North Dakota. Please find your polling place and help Hillary create history."


-- (c) Associated Press 2016-06-08

[Usernames]

Clinton, Inc. and the corrupt media and Wall Street are all in it together.

[anotheruser]

I guess maybe he should get over it. He did abysmal in California.

[up2u2]

Looks like all the California Superdelegates (not bound by vote?) have voted 60/40 to Hillary.

Bloomberg is showing 67 votes for Hillary 1 Vote to Bernie.

[hawker9000]

I guess maybe he should get over it. He did abysmal in California.

That he did, and surprisingly so, but he was actually done months ago. I thought it was interesting that the media declared Hillary the "presumptive nominee" on the very eve of the June 7 primaries (which of course included CA). I guess he could make the case that was kind of a dirty trick that discouraged his supporters and kept them home (but it would be sort of a stretch; he lost in CA fairly decisively). Anyway, now we'll see if he goes peacefully, or wants to keep the dying embers berning...

[Jingthing]

Clinton vs. Sanders was a real hard fought contest.

Clinton won.

I think, for all the thorniness of the current situation, this has been a positive thing.

A democratic primary where Clinton didn't have a real challenge would not generated any interest and would not have prepped Clinton for the general.

The "political revolution" of the Bernies is indeed a movement, a worthy movement, and clearly a movement that best belongs in DEMOCRATIC party.

So, believe it or not, the vast majority of Bernies are going to get on board with supporting Hillary Clinton, and live to fight another day to bring the important issues of the "revolution" forward.

[sgtsabai]

No believe it or not they aren't. They know the game was rigged. Clintons will NOT regain the Senate and will lose even more seats in the House. The fascist orange monster may even become president. A freezing day in hell before I vote for either. Not the lessor of 2 evils, 2 different evils. The best possible outcome of the rigged primary will be the destruction of the blue dawg corporate Democrat Party, reborn in the form of FDR's new deal, abandoned by the Clintons. She doesn't deserve to be elected dawg catcher in a one dog town.

[natway09]

Last honest hope for America down the drain.

No wonder they sing "God Help America"

[ozyjon]

Let the fireworks begin,,

and why is the FBI silent,

keep watching folks.

[NovaBlue05]

Now Bernie visits the White House tomorrow to be tag teamed by Obama and Harry "Human Filth Personified" Reid to receive an attitude adjustment

[Steely Dan]

Bernie still hasn't thrown in the towel.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263130/bernie-sanders-wil-continue-fighting-outcome-2016-daniel-greenfield#

It's quite instructive this, after all when has mere mathematical reality ever mattered to a socialist ideologue?

[hawker9000]

I guess maybe he should get over it. He did abysmal in California.

That he did, and surprisingly so, but he was actually done months ago. I thought it was interesting that the media declared Hillary the "presumptive nominee" on the very eve of the June 7 primaries (which of course included CA). I guess he could make the case that was kind of a dirty trick that discouraged his supporters and kept them home (but it would be sort of a stretch; he lost in CA fairly decisively). Anyway, now we'll see if he goes peacefully, or wants to keep the dying embers berning...

Bernie still hasn't thrown in the towel.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/263130/bernie-sanders-wil-continue-fighting-outcome-2016-daniel-greenfield#

It's quite instructive this, after all when has mere mathematical reality ever mattered to a socialist ideologue?

Well I guess that answers the question. Let the good times roll...

[SheungWan]

Bernie's populist junk attractive enough for Trump to already make a pitch for his supporters.

[mrwebb8825]

Definitely opens the door to a Trump/Sanders ticket. Still got a month for some closed door meeting. That would sure curl Clinton's butt hairs.

[hawker9000]

Definitely opens the door to a Trump/Sanders ticket. Still got a month for some closed door meeting. That would sure curl Clinton's butt hairs.

A Trump-Sanders ticket?! What are you smoking?? Sanders running as an independent is more likely, and not very I don't think. 'Would certainly make his zealots happy though, as well as constitute a real spoiler for Clinton. No, Sanders best course is to use his political capital, which is significant, to try & drive Clinton policy to the left (which puts her in a difficult position with her paid-up-and-expecting-something-for-their-money contributors...).

I can't imagine he took the Obama-Reid barbecue very well. Obama is used to sycophants bending to his will, and Sanders doesn't seem to fit that description. 'Wonder if there's any truth to the rumor he (Sanders) will insist on Wasserman-Schultz stepping down as DNC ringleader.

Edited June 10, 2016 by hawker9000

[attrayant]

Definitely opens the door to a Trump/Sanders ticket. Still got a month for some closed door meeting.

Oh yeah, that's going to happen right after this:

I look forward to meeting with [Hillary Clinton] in the near future to see how we can work together to defeat Donald Trump and create a government which represents all of us and not just the 1 percent.

[hawker9000]

Definitely opens the door to a Trump/Sanders ticket. Still got a month for some closed door meeting.

Oh yeah, that's going to happen right after this:

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I look forward to meeting with [Hillary Clinton] in the near future to see how we can work together to defeat Donald Trump and create a government which represents all of us and not just the 1 percent.

So the productive workers who pay the taxes so these socialist promises of free everything can be fulfilled, are down to just 1% of the electorate now?

[Jingthing]

Bernie fans that will vote for trump: NIHILISTS.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2016/06/leftists_for_trump_what_is_to_be_done_about_these_insufferable_nihilists.html

I’m not interested in berating people who feel this way into changing their votes. Clinton can win without mobilizing the armed anarchist listeners of Democracy Now! People who believe that it would be “clarifying” if the “republic degenerates into tyranny,” as Ketcham does, probably should pull the lever for Trump; they are his natural constituency. I know these cosplay revolutionaries, to paraphrase Dave Weigel, don’t represent the real left. They’re certainly not the heroic people organizing fast-food workers or agitating to head off climate cataclysm. But a softer version of Ketcham’s sentiment is out there among the Bernie-or-Bust crowd; in March, the Guardian heard from 500 Sanders supporters who were considering voting for Trump over Clinton. It’s there, too, in the people on the left who are furious about the prospect of Elizabeth Warren joining Clinton’s ticket. Increasingly, a vocal part of the left is marked by its contempt for liberalism. The feeling is often mutual.

Enjoy the REAL burn if that vile monster actually wins.