webfact Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Patong shopping mall seals off areas as structural pillars crumbleThe Phuket NewsThe inspection follows reports of damage to pillars in the underground section at the Jungceylon shopping mall. PHUKET: -- Patong Mayor Chalermluck Kebsup and Kathu District Chief Sayan Chaichanawong yesterday (June 8) led a team of engineers to inspect the structural integrity of the supporting pillars in the car park and underground shopping area at Patong's main shopping mall, Jungceylon.The inspection followed anonymous tip-offs, said Patong Municipality Chief Engineer Surapon Buakaew. “I received information from people who do not want to be named about it,” he told The Phuket News yesterday.However, by the time his team of engineers from Patong Municipality’s Public Works Division arrived yesterday, Jungceylon management had already closed off the area, with signs saying, “Under Renovation. Sorry for any inconvenience caused.”“I told them to keep the area closed and ensure the structure was reinforced with supports. We sent a report of the damage to the Patong Mayor, Ms Chalermluck,” Mr Surapon said.However, the team of municipal engineers has yet to confirm the cause and extent of the damage.Kathu District Sayan said that his office Full story: http://www.thephuketnews.com/patong-shopping-mall-seals-off-areas-as-structural-pillars-crumble-57786.php -- Phuket News 2016-06-09 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Now THAT is scary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Only closing off the area around the iffy columns? Just one word - Sampoong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirtless Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 They never inspected it while they were there . Tipped off as well its good to see your winning the war on corruption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhizBang Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 My god. Shut it ALL down, not just a small section around the pillars. That is truely dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brer Fox Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Like the Hotline for reporting collapsing hotels is there a Hotline for reporting collapsing Malls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Only closing off the area around the iffy columns? Just one word - Sampoong Closing off the immediate area or closing off the entire building? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) The re-bar at the right of the photo is already bending and that ain't good. The entire pillar could collapse at any time now which could lead to a domino effect. Edited June 9, 2016 by Pimay1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LivinginKata Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 The re-bar at the right of the photo is already bending and that ain't good. The entire pillar could collapse at any time now which could lead to a domino effect. Exactly correct - domino effect is many/all the posts are of the same construction standard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huuwi Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 little bit concret and paint and ready to go.....not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wooloomooloo Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Let's put it another way, if the supporting pillar wasn't required then it wouldn't be there in the first place. little bit concret and paint and ready to go.....not? Be my guest, I'll be right behind you [on another continent]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mihalis Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I can see a lot of farang engineers on Thai Visa as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldieinkathu Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 The re-bar at the right of the photo is already bending and that ain't good. The entire pillar could collapse at any time now which could lead to a domino effect. Exactly correct - domino effect is many/all the posts are of the same construction standard. Is anyone surprised ? I've felt vibrations on all floors when I've been walking around, same goes for when I've been sitting in the food hall in Central. It's passed my mind many times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pimay1 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I can see a lot of farang engineers on Thai Visa as well Yes you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandor Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Better hope there is not the slightest earthquake. They should shut the building down for a full 'real' engineering review, but then that takes a lot of time, and money, so probably won't happen. Much easier to plaster over it and hope for the best "Thai Style". I'm in the QA/QC business, and I remember when they were building a large tourist attraction here on the West Coast of Phuket many years ago, and I dropped by to see how it was going (thinking there could be a chance that they needed an expat inspector type) and was appalled by the state of the welded structure... I mentioned it to one of the farang contractors (who was doing a great job on his work) and he said that "Yes, the Thai inspector from Bangkok said the same thing, but he had a fatal accident on his way back to Bangkok, and they haven't sent anybody since". Needless to say,I didn't seek any work opportunities there... true story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukeleto Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Hmmm thats me and Jung Ceylon done with for the foreseeable future. Going to be a bit of a blow to Patong if the building is condemned, which just from the photo, it should be. Makes the hair on the back of my neck go up thinking about all the times I have parked in the basement parking with my family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) The photo shows some interesting issues. There appears to be a section of the column void of concrete and its not a typical compression failure. There is also very visible evidence of over hydration by the numerous cavities left after curing. The reo has no signs of rust but the concrete has also not bonded to it as you would expect. The green and pink colour tinge on the surface and beyond which I assume is not the lighting as it is patchy. Looks to me like a failure caused by a casting void due to over hydration, possibly at the start of a new batch delivery, whereby the load was only supported by the reinforcing until a lateral force, probably thermal movement, resulted in the axial displacement. In other words, a crap batch of over watered concrete. Edited June 9, 2016 by Reigntax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneyboy Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) Another hotline for shopping malls ? If you believe the shopping mall your in is about to collapse call 1558. On a more serious note,where does it stop. I for one wouldn't be using the place of I lived there. Edited June 9, 2016 by stoneyboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deli Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Well, gives lot's of confidence in respect of all the new tunnels on Phuket... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 They are just going to plaster over whatever they find, slap on some paint, and they are good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IamNoone88 Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I was just down there and saw nothing and no warning signs, but had I know, I would not entered. Never walk into a collapsing building. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Re. "However, the team of municipal engineers has yet to confirm the cause and extent of the damage." No need to confirm anything. The answer is: cheap, shoddy work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Mango Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 (edited) A few more photos , Seems its close to the lower shopping area where the indoor market type stalls are. Edited June 9, 2016 by The Big Mango Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOTIRIOS Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 ....seems extensive and severe... ...no word for 'capacity' in the Thai Language ....??? ...no counters...and all parking areas seem to be filled to 2x capacity... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalchaos Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Like the Hotline for reporting collapsing hotels is there a Hotline for reporting collapsing Malls? Better just have one line to cover "Collapsing Society" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somtamnication Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 I can see a lot of farang engineers on Thai Visa as well Drunk farangs walking are more stable than those columns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuaBS Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 They are just going to plaster over whatever they find, slap on some paint, and they are good to go. Duct tape is the way to go , same colour too , no paint needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitar God Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 That'll buff right out, no problem. Coat of paint, good as new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennw Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 The photo shows some interesting issues. There appears to be a section of the column void of concrete and its not a typical compression failure. There is also very visible evidence of over hydration by the numerous cavities left after curing. The reo has no signs of rust but the concrete has also not bonded to it as you would expect. The green and pink colour tinge on the surface and beyond which I assume is not the lighting as it is patchy. Looks to me like a failure caused by a casting void due to over hydration, possibly at the start of a new batch delivery, whereby the load was only supported by the reinforcing until a lateral force, probably thermal movement, resulted in the axial displacement. In other words, a crap batch of over watered concrete. Wonder what happened to the concrete test piece, should be taken from every delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusty Posted June 9, 2016 Share Posted June 9, 2016 Now THAT is scary. Exactly the same problem as the crumbling pillars of the car park below Central Shopping Mall in Pattaya. Same construction company hello ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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