fishbrando Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 I buy direct from the grower/roaster in Chaing Mai. Roasted to order. 3kg delivered by express mail 1500baht. For me well worth every baht. Details would be much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted July 24, 2016 Share Posted July 24, 2016 (edited) Thanks guys for the good info. Plenty of stores/coffee/equipment to check out. Looks like there are some good equipment dealers in Bangkok though I'm a bit shocked at the markup...I should be used to it by now. I realize a good grinder is important but I'm probably not going to spend an iPhone's worth of money on a grinder. Wish I could get a lower end Baratza like a Baratza Preciso for a reasonable price here. The hand grinder might be a good option if it can grind out a double-shot worth in 15-20 seconds - the Lido 3 looks nice. I know some people have also hacked their hand grinders so they can be driven by a power drill: Hi FB Yes that Lido3 is awesome & you will not mind hand grinding at all with it I think It is so fast & smooth ! Really easy & the smells start coming while grinding For my usual pour over or aeropress I use 15-18gr & it takes roughly 25 turns so I would guess 20 sec or less I would not recommend that Hario type in the video I had one & it is ok but the shaft is only supported at one end The Lido for instance has support at both ends The Hario cannot produce consistent same sized particles So you end up with a lot of fines in there that will make the coffee bitter/over extracted Edited July 24, 2016 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HamburgToBKK Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Hello, I heard many good things about Doi Cha(a)ng coffee from Chiang Mai. Unfortunately it seems that there are two different Doi Chaang brands: http://www.lazada.co.th/doi-chaang-coffee-premium-500g-7155111.html http://www.lazada.co.th/doi-chang-professional-french-roast-4-1000g-331668.html I would give the Doi Chang one a try first (for ~500 THB per kilo). What do you think? Edited August 31, 2016 by HamburgToBKK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lj cm Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, HamburgToBKK said: Hello, I heard many good things about Doi Cha(a)ng coffee from Chiang Mai. Unfortunately it seems that there are two different Doi Chaang brands: http://www.lazada.co.th/doi-chaang-coffee-premium-500g-7155111.html http://www.lazada.co.th/doi-chang-professional-french-roast-4-1000g-331668.html I would give the Doi Chang one a try first (for ~500 THB per kilo). What do you think? I sometimes buy a pack of the first one. It tastes very good, but also cost 300 Baht for 250 gr. I don't know the second one, but I'm not so much into dark roasted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coops Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 24 July 2016 at 10:45 AM, ChristianBlessing said: While recently in Bangkok I saw a packaged northern Thai blend at Starbucks. My favorite coffee purveyor and roaster in the US tells me Thai beans are just now reaching a point of sufficient quality, quantity and consistency to catch the attention of buyers. There's been good coffee for quite some time - just like there is in Vietnam, even if they do predominantly supply cheap robusta for instant coffee producers... Go to coffereview.com and search "bluekoff" You can't read the reviews any more without subscribing ( I read them years ago and why I heard about Bluekoff) - you can see the A4+A5 review getting 90+ points ( 92 in Jan 2015 ) for that blend. I prefer the A5 alone... but note the actual price is around 140 bht per 250gm if you buy one... buy a dozen packs delivered free to your door and it goes down further around 125baht / 250gm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HooHaa Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 6/12/2016 at 10:22 AM, 01322521959 said: Try the Moccona espresso green boxed coffee. Use two heaped spoonfalls and two mugs of water, dash of milk. Great!! No, don't try this. It is pedestrian nonsense, lowest common demoniator crap. The man likes coffee, why ruin it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 On 20 July 2016 at 1:46 PM, mania said: You all need to get out & about more Thailand has become very coffee sophisticated You can get everything here AA Kenyan, Colombian, Ethiopian, Brazilian, Guatemalan you name it its here fresh roasted here & often light roasted to boot Then the Thai beans themselves have come so far so fast The farmers are learning & applying things like how they process which now included honey process,natural,dry & washed I predict it will not be but a few years until we see Thai coffee being exported world wide It is in fact starting already with many US & Euro roasters buying micro lots Following your suggestion that we all need to get out & about more, I had coffee at St Eustachio 'Il Caffe' today, which has reminded me exactly how poor a misrepresentation of Coffee anything available in Thailand is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retoohs Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 if coffee is your thing find a café that sells Black Ivory coffee. Best I've ever had. About 1200b a cup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, GuestHouse said: Following your suggestion that we all need to get out & about more, I had coffee at St Eustachio 'Il Caffe' today, which has reminded me exactly how poor a misrepresentation of Coffee anything available in Thailand is. Obviously you have a nice trip in Italy & want to say your having a nice cup there & that is great What are you drinking? Espresso or some milk based drink like cappuccino or lattes? I see St Eustachio uses an Arabica Blend so not actually a single bean but a blend of a few although they do not say which If you should get a chance to find any cafes serving Gardelli roasted beans you may find yourself surprised yet again at how deliciaous coffee can have depending on beans & who brews it & the skill of who brews it As for your "how poor a misrepresentation of Coffee anything available in Thailand is" comment......... Again that is really not the fault of Thailand but the cafes you visited As any bean is available now in Thailand & as always your mileage may vary dependent on your baristas skill at extracting flavors as intended from those beans But I do hope you & yours enjoy your Italian vacation ..eating & cycling in Italy is one of the great experiences I'm sure Edited August 31, 2016 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuestHouse Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 8 hours ago, mania said: Obviously you have a nice trip in Italy & want to say your having a nice cup there & that is great What are you drinking? Espresso or some milk based drink like cappuccino or lattes? I see St Eustachio uses an Arabica Blend so not actually a single bean but a blend of a few although they do not say which If you should get a chance to find any cafes serving Gardelli roasted beans you may find yourself surprised yet again at how deliciaous coffee can have depending on beans & who brews it & the skill of who brews it As for your "how poor a misrepresentation of Coffee anything available in Thailand is" comment......... Again that is really not the fault of Thailand but the cafes you visited As any bean is available now in Thailand & as always your mileage may vary dependent on your baristas skill at extracting flavors as intended from those beans But I do hope you & yours enjoy your Italian vacation ..eating & cycling in Italy is one of the great experiences I'm sure I'll look out for Gardelli, though I think one of the most important ingrediants is not being discussed - Water. The water supplied to St Eustachio (and the pantheon area of Rome) is of especially high quality - better in my opinion than many bottled mineral waters. Finding good quality water in Thailand is not easy, and I've carted water from all parts of Thailand to make coffee with. In the end I resort to Montclair, not perfect but I doubt many Baristars in Thailand give much thought to the water they use. I remain too to be convinced that Thai coffee beans are themselves of any notable quality. The variation between national sources is well known and to be fair Thailand is competing against nations with centuries of experience and coffee culture. Then of course there is the roasting. I recently bought a range of coffees from Artisan Roast in Edinburgh, their "Primavera Colombia" was outstanding, but unfortunately only available as a one off production - underscoring the very distinctive differences between coffees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mania Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, GuestHouse said: I'll look out for Gardelli, though I think one of the most important ingrediants is not being discussed - Water. The water supplied to St Eustachio (and the pantheon area of Rome) is of especially high quality - better in my opinion than many bottled mineral waters. Finding good quality water in Thailand is not easy, and I've carted water from all parts of Thailand to make coffee with. In the end I resort to Montclair, not perfect but I doubt many Baristars in Thailand give much thought to the water they use. I remain too to be convinced that Thai coffee beans are themselves of any notable quality. The variation between national sources is well known and to be fair Thailand is competing against nations with centuries of experience and coffee culture. Then of course there is the roasting. I recently bought a range of coffees from Artisan Roast in Edinburgh, their "Primavera Colombia" was outstanding, but unfortunately only available as a one off production - underscoring the very distinctive differences between coffees. You are correct in what you say about waters importance to great coffee extraction. The better shops in Thailand use the LaMarzoco RO system that then adds proper minerals back to the water in its three stage process. Also true some growers still have much to learn in Thailand but I believe there are some very good ones now too that have learned a lot in a few short years & have improved both growing techniques & processing...Then there are also now some very good roasters too both in Bangkok as well as Chiang Mai ( I will be honest & say I have found some bad roasters too) But they are also importing green beans at great expense due to the import taxes from many countries Colombian,Ethiopian,Kenyan,Honduras...pretty much anything you can imagine. About the Artisan Roast I have only heard great things in some coffee groups I am a part of online. I once tried a cup in ChiangMai that the Barista brought back from the recent World Barista Championships in Dublin this year (pic below) Would like to try more of their beans & now that I am back in the US may try ordering as their shipping quote of $11 for 2/250g bags sounds very reasonable Hope you enjoy your vacation Edited September 1, 2016 by mania Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lite Beer Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 (edited) This might be of interest to some. Especially Americans. Taste Our Rare Variety of Arabica Coffee Our special variety of Arabica is now ready to order. When we first started Red Cliff Coffee several years ago, we imported a few hundred seeds of specialty coffee from Hawaii and planted them here in the Chiang Rai mountains. Those trees have matured, and now our first harvest is ready to brew. The seeds came from Hawaii, where we used to manage a Kona coffee farm. This variety (or cultivar) or Arabica is known as 'Bourbon', and it's famous for being one of the most nuanced, best-tasting varieties of Arabica available. I've tasted it myself, and I have to say -- I'm impressed. This particular strain of Arabica is very rare in Thailand. Personally, I don't know of anyone else who is currently making it available. This coffee is rich and earthy, with a lightly sweet aftertaste. It's definitely going to be my coffee of choice over the next few weeks. http://us8.campaign-archive1.com/?u=5001a4835acfa81d37ffccf34&id=53a8f83bba&e=1eee14c02e Edited September 5, 2016 by Lite Beer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Great , I think I will order it. I am tired of Boncafe now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
01322521959 Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 On 9/1/2016 at 1:29 AM, HooHaa said: No, don't try this. It is pedestrian nonsense, lowest common demoniator crap. The man likes coffee, why ruin it. Each to his own. I like it. Had friends over who like it. Maybe I'm just easily satisfied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClutchClark Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 On September 1, 2016 at 2:45 AM, mania said: The better shops in Thailand use the LaMarzoco RO system that then adds proper minerals back to the water in its three stage process. I had no idea ! Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorayme Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 I buy Doi Chang from Lazada. They bring it right to my door. I buy 2,505 for 20 250G bags. http://www.lazada.co.th/catalog/?q=doi+chang Everyone who drinks coffee with me seems to like the coffee. I don't drink instant and prefer the Doi Chang over Boncafe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saastrajaa Posted November 22, 2016 Share Posted November 22, 2016 Verasu, on Witthayu Road about .5 k (if that) south of the Plern Chit BTS station on the left, has a selection of very reasonably priced, decent coffees from various regions in Thailand (mostly the north, naturally)...either whole beans, or they'll grind them to your specifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doggie1955 Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 Well I found a 3 in 1 coffee that kicks ass....it's called G7 I found it in Makro, or you can just google it for Thailand. The great thing about this coffee is that it is not from Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted November 27, 2016 Share Posted November 27, 2016 3 hours ago, doggie1955 said: Well I found a 3 in 1 coffee that kicks ass You'd want to avoid 40-50% sugar added. Try 2 in 1 instead and add sugar if you absolutely must . There is one 2 in 1 brand without added sugar that is very espresso like, it's the new microground coffee , try it next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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