What's a young, good looking, healthy guy doing married to a brass?

I know that's a bit blunt, so apologies to any who're offended.

That's most likely why she married him, and not a 50 year old, overweight farang...

But why did he marry her?

Love like that only comes along, once or twice nightly in every Pattaya beachside bar, that's why.

What's a young, good looking, healthy guy doing married to a brass?

I know that's a bit blunt, so apologies to any who're offended.

You are showing your age.

That's what these guys like, the ones that look like monkies, button nose, dark skin, make-up caked on, skimpy clothing, tramp stamps and the quality conversation that goes with the Bar English 101 course they do.

He was living the dream !

I totally agree and my skin crawls when I see one. You forgot High cheek bones

How is it that the topic is about a father who has gone missing and presumed murdered and all you children on TV can do is bicker with each other.

Grow up already.

Well done Rayk, Steve is a close mate, a great lad who absolutely adores his daughter, he is dependable, organised he does not just dissapear... he like millions of people married and divorced, he actually lasted a lot longer married than i am sure half of the absolute nuggets posting on this forum.. he married because he loved, his daughter was the result of love and he was sure not going to let her suffer because that marriage failed. he spoke to her twice a day, made sure money was there for the daughter, he is a great dad and probably a better ex husband than most of us are husbands. ,

He is loyal, honest and possibly a better man than me, he has not been seen, everyone is worried,his parents must be beside themselves as you would if your child went missing, no matter how old, your still a parent and they are still a child. Yet all the majority of you lot can do is make assumptions, slag each other off, with the odd concerned person, the odd bit of humanity towards Stevens plight and that of his friends and family, Be a forum, be a group of people, dont bombard this forum with trash, use it to pass on your thoughts to parents desperate, to a daughter that just wants her dad, post photos, keep your eyes and ears open and if murder has been committed, help bring the guilty to bear.

Before you go posting on sights like this, just stop. think. and at least be respectful of the topic.. if you lot want to bash expats abroad, or oldies, or thai working girts etc then i am sure there are forum topics to do so... not on the topic of someone missing presumed murdered.

You are right in a way but what makes this news is that he didn't may like millions of other people, he married a Pattaya woman,with tattoos.We all know what that means although many who also have done it are in denial.

I hope your friend turns up alive.

She had tattoo's, so please expand your childish and stupid statement of "that means"-- what does it mean exactly?

Not childish. As other's here will testify, it means she is or was a prostitute.

What's a young, good looking, healthy guy doing married to a brass?

I know that's a bit blunt, so apologies to any who're offended.

That's most likely why she married him, and not a 50 year old, overweight farang...

But why did he marry her?

Love like that only comes along, once or twice nightly in every Pattaya beachside bar, that's why.

Naughty Neverdie!

wonder of the guy he got in a fight with was his girls new man. bar girls are amazing at manipulating their customers. you never know what a thai is thinking behind their smile. i know a couple guys who thought they had great relationships who got dumped and told their girl always hated them. i have 2 kids with a thai girl and we get along ok. i pay her a monthly salary. i am worth more to her alive so hopefully it will stay that way.

Superb grounds for a relationship, even if they are the most likely to keep peace.

Naughty Neverdie!

What cracks me up is when guys take slappers like this back to their home countries and strut around with them like they are 'Fabio' and the bar fine, I mean wife is some Paris model.

So cringeworthy.

I wonder why the father thinks she is responsible, was it based merely on her looks or her good nature?

I hope he is ok & not caught up with some other slapper from the bar across the soi. He's caused his dad a world of worry.

Bad lad.

Edited June 18, 201610 yr by neverdie

With a delay of more than a month before ringing the bell, I fear he's a goner! Most likely the fight was about his daughter who most certainly has been parked with grandma or some "uncle" somewhere in Issaan until she's old enough to bcome a valuable "asset". The photo, the eyes and the staged "smile" of Nan tell me more than I even want to know...

His wife posted a few weeks back on FB asking whether friends etc had seen him.

Known them both 10+ years.

Interesting. I recall you saying you married a woman in Pattaya with tattoos.

Was he giving the woman money regularly?

Was he planning to take the daughter out of Pattaya, like any good father would?

Do you think the ex wife is capable of murder?

Had she found another client yet?

Edited June 18, 201610 yr by Nearlynam

Bad marriages between Farung and Thais wouldn't happen if the men were able to leave their egos out of their thinking.

How many Western men have you met (or know) who have married attractive women years younger than them?

Personally, I can say dozens.

It staggers me that old, overweight farung can believe that beautiful young girls could fall in love with them.

If they were able to look at the reality of the situation, they would know it's an impossibility.

Fall in love with their money... yes!

As long as the money continues to flow, they'll stick around, but often they have a lover on the side.

The most successful marriages I know are between couples of similar age and having met while both young.

Not always a recipe for success, but at least the odds are better.

Bearing in mind that more than 50% of marriages in the west end in divorce anyway.

My Thai wife and I have been married for 39 years, but it's not easy, but then I guess that's the way it goes with most marriages.

At least she's not after my money and there is genuine love there.

I would suggest that most guys who come to Thailand to find a partner, stay out of the bars, and look for someone close to their age.

Pattaya tattood darkskin bargirl as a wife. Excellent decision ... Love kills.

Nothing wrong with dark skin but tattoos and Pattaya says it all, how sad. I hope justice prevails.

Loads of Thai women have tattoos, from superstars to university students, to those rebelling against a conservative society to women who are fans of rock/metal bands or who just like tattoos. Perhaps the Pattaya thing is the greater indicator. To be honest though, I'm not here to judge anyone's appearance, I'm more concerned about where he is and the child involved.

Tatoos may go beyond simple display of body art.

Buddhist art tatoos have a lot of symbolic meaning and with 95% of Thais who are Buddhists, it wouldn't uncommon for both Thai mean and women to have them.

...don't you know ....that's how it works around here....

...not only do they not face charges for 'marriage scams'....they 'get away with murder'....

...then they will 'plead the victim' too.....

Yup there's another one for sure.... R.I.P where ever you are....11yrs here for me now and I hate this country, my plans to return home are coming soon....it's a bitter and brutal country once you look deeper into the people who live here.....bye bye Lieland

Yep, a good few expats are in the "bitter" category.

Why bitter? Perhaps it falls into realistic, or honest? Every place has its own issues. Sometimes we assume that one place is perfect. I'd rather have a serious illness in London than Udon. I'd rather a traffic ticket in Marseille than in Patong, I'd rather a court case in Amsterdam than Bangkok, I'd rather hire electricians in Brisbane than in Chiang Mai. Know what else? I'd be more comfortable meeting a bird in a pub in Bristol than I would in Pattaya. I don't want to discover that Big Ethel from Pattaya is called big because she is really a he and has a rather large penis.

The speculation that this man is dead , may be right . I would always advise a foreign man against marrying a girl from Pattaya or any Tourist resort .

" Once A Bar Girl , Always A Bar Girl " !!! They are for short time only , not marriage . Thai culture is very different to western culture , values are quite different .

I would always advise a man over 50 to come with a retirement visa , it saves you a lot of bother with excessive documentation at immigration .

Don't get married , just cohabit ; if you must marry , a Thai village wedding will suffice ; if things don't work out you can walk away with no strings attached .

In the country find a girl with her own house , other wise rent or lease , don't buy a house in her name unless you can afford to give it away .

Yup there's another one for sure.... R.I.P where ever you are....11yrs here for me now and I hate this country, my plans to return home are coming soon....it's a bitter and brutal country once you look deeper into the people who live here.....bye bye Lieland

Yep, a good few expats are in the "bitter" category.

Why bitter? Perhaps it falls into realistic, or honest? Every place has its own issues. Sometimes we assume that one place is perfect. I'd rather have a serious illness in London than Udon. I'd rather a traffic ticket in Marseille than in Patong, I'd rather a court case in Amsterdam than Bangkok, I'd rather hire electricians in Brisbane than in Chiang Mai. Know what else? I'd be more comfortable meeting a bird in a pub in Bristol than I would in Pattaya. I don't want to discover that Big Ethel from Pattaya is called big because she is really a he and has a rather large penis.

I can agree with a lot of what you have written but for me the place is OK, it's like a run down European city without any rules but it is interesting and not all people here are liars in fact most are decent hard working people trying to make a crust in a difficult environment. If you take the trouble to have a conversation with many bar girls without wanting sex you will find they are OK people just like the rest of us in fact many are rather kind hearted

Pattaya tattood darkskin bargirl as a wife. Excellent decision ?... Love kills.

Nothing wrong with dark skin but tattoos and Pattaya says it all, how sad. I hope justice prevails.

BRANDING in more permanent (they'd be lining up around the block for laser therapy)

And what will that cost be to extract some truth, the police here do absolutely FA without direct payment.

Should be good to watch following democracy, any wonder there is resistance - they'll not have total power.

Justice here, is just being a bigger smart arse, than the next MOFO; then secondly saving face. Incomprehensible justification for all vicious attacks.

Thainess............. how backward from a civilised race.

Amazing Thailand. I know few girls who have few boyfriends in different European countries. Each dummy sends a monthly salary thinking he is the only Prince??.

Yui loves girls but doesn't mind having a guy as long as he will send her 20k monthly to help her pay the rent and buy food.She invited me out after my lady friend introduced her to me.She will invite the guys to 3some in order to make him happy and ensure he will come back.to her as well as keep sending the dosh ??

Yup there's another one for sure.... R.I.P where ever you are....11yrs here for me now and I hate this country, my plans to return home are coming soon....it's a bitter and brutal country once you look deeper into the people who live here.....bye bye Lieland

Yep, a good few expats are in the "bitter" category.

Why bitter? Perhaps it falls into realistic, or honest? Every place has its own issues. Sometimes we assume that one place is perfect. I'd rather have a serious illness in London than Udon. I'd rather a traffic ticket in Marseille than in Patong, I'd rather a court case in Amsterdam than Bangkok, I'd rather hire electricians in Brisbane than in Chiang Mai. Know what else? I'd be more comfortable meeting a bird in a pub in Bristol than I would in Pattaya. I don't want to discover that Big Ethel from Pattaya is called big because she is really a he and has a rather large penis.

I can agree with a lot of what you have written but for me the place is OK, it's like a run down European city without any rules but it is interesting and not all people here are liars in fact most are decent hard working people trying to make a crust in a difficult environment. If you take the trouble to have a conversation with many bar girls without wanting sex you will find they are OK people just like the rest of us in fact many are rather kind hearted

You've given me an idea of what to do on this dark dreary day. "Take the trouble" and go out seeking prostitutes for a conversation but refuse any business. Sounds like a fun thing to do.

Pattaya tattood darkskin bargirl as a wife. Excellent decision ... Love kills.

Nothing wrong with dark skin but tattoos and Pattaya says it all, how sad. I hope justice prevails.

Loads of Thai women have tattoos, from superstars to university students, to those rebelling against a conservative society to women who are fans of rock/metal bands or who just like tattoos. Perhaps the Pattaya thing is the greater indicator. To be honest though, I'm not here to judge anyone's appearance, I'm more concerned about where he is and the child involved.

Tatoos may go beyond simple display of body art.

Buddhist art tatoos have a lot of symbolic meaning and with 95% of Thais who are Buddhists, it wouldn't uncommon for both Thai mean and women to have them.

Yeah. Well there are Buddhist tattoos, and then there are tramp stamps. It's not just the tattoos anyway, it's the entire person and context. And in this context... it's obvious what it is.

Quote :

“I reported him missing to the British Embassy in Bangkok and to offices in London but nothing has been done since.

“The Thai police can’t really do anything until the British Embassy get involved, and that hasn’t happened."

“We’ve tried to get help from the local embassy but they don’t seem interested,"

Is it necessary to remind to our embassies that their main and first mission (consulate section) is to help and do everything they can for their citizens who are in danger or have difficulties abroad. Nowadays, only money and business contracts mean something for our so called "diplomats" who are paid thanks to the taxes we pay.

A disgrace !

With a delay of more than a month before ringing the bell, I fear he's a goner! Most likely the fight was about his daughter who most certainly has been parked with grandma or some "uncle" somewhere in Issaan until she's old enough to bcome a valuable "asset". The photo, the eyes and the staged "smile" of Nan tell me more than I even want to know...

His wife posted a few weeks back on FB asking whether friends etc had seen him.

Known them both 10+ years.

Interesting. I recall you saying you married a woman in Pattaya with tattoos.

Was he giving the woman money regularly?

Was he planning to take the daughter out of Pattaya, like any good father would?

Do you think the ex wife is capable of murder?

Had she found another client yet?

OK, the Scots guy made a bad decision in choosing a wife. That is not the issue here. Where is he and what happened is important.

Did the wife do it?

Many men come here and marry prostitutes, get over it it is a fact. I'd estimate that 2% end up having happy, long, loving relationships. So, it's a long shot gamble that seemingly many are willing to take when they see a beautiful younger woman. I'd say another 10% survive and live a pretty sad, lonely life in rural Isarn and eventually realize they made a mistake but have bought the house and car, are getting their old-age pension and too scared to make a new start - their ego is hurt and end up bitter posters, hating Thailand an making generalized assumptions about all Thai people.

Many marry normal Thai women, and some, especially the Pattata dwellers, can't understand this.

Edited June 18, 201610 yr by Sawan Chan 7

TV Detectives = 9 pages

Quote :

“I reported him missing to the British Embassy in Bangkok and to offices in London but nothing has been done since.

“The Thai police can’t really do anything until the British Embassy get involved, and that hasn’t happened."

“We’ve tried to get help from the local embassy but they don’t seem interested,"

Is it necessary to remind to our embassies that their main and first mission (consulate section) is to help and do everything they can for their citizens who are in danger or have difficulties abroad. Nowadays, only money and business contracts mean something for our so called "diplomats" who are paid thanks to the taxes we pay.

A disgrace !

They have strict rules.

Here's one.

We cannot

"Carry out searches for missing people; because doing so is the responsibility of the local authorities and to search effectively requires resources only they can provide."

Which is from the publication

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/407661/FCO_BritsAbroad_DL_2014_web__1_.pdf

Maybe you, and indeed all other UK expats should download, read and understand what the Embassy can and cannot do, before expanding the obligations of the Embassy.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/support-for-british-nationals-abroad-a-guide

What's a young, good looking, healthy guy doing married to a brass?

I know that's a bit blunt, so apologies to any who're offended.

That's most likely why she married him, and not a 50 year old, overweight farang...

Amazing there are always people like you in this forum criticizing old fat farangs. Live long enough, in Thailand, you just might make it to see 50 and happy to be fat. Young with a hard cocktail or old with an implant doesn't matter to women here. You can still come up murdered for what they truly love you for... MONEY. And to all you men who give your girlfriends or wives a salary... I ask did you give your girlfriend or wife a salary back in your home country? Crazy... Because Tea Money, in any scenario, only breeds greed in Thailand.

Edited June 18, 201610 yr by Whyamiandwhatamidoinghere

What's a young, good looking, healthy guy doing married to a brass?

I know that's a bit blunt, so apologies to any who're offended.

You are showing your age.

That's what these guys like, the ones that look like monkies, button nose, dark skin, make-up caked on, skimpy clothing, tramp stamps and the quality conversation that goes with the Bar English 101 course they do.

He was living the dream !

And now what "dreaming of life ?"

Edited June 18, 201610 yr by biplanebluey

Appears most think the wife had him done in...

Could it be He was no angel, lots of abusive,

Drunk Scotsmen. Maybe he just my his match!

Appears most think the wife had him done in...

Could it be He was no angel, lots of abusive,

Drunk Scotsmen. Maybe he just my his match!

If I didn't know better I'd say little mary has had one or two already this morning.

It certainly is a possibility but there are just as many Irish, Finnish drunks - a bit unfair to label the Scots.

Ex-soldier, well yes they often are uneducated macho/aggressive types.

How is it that the topic is about a father who has gone missing and presumed murdered and all you children on TV can do is bicker with each other.

Grow up already.

Well done Rayk, Steve is a close mate, a great lad who absolutely adores his daughter, he is dependable, organised he does not just dissapear... he like millions of people married and divorced, he actually lasted a lot longer married than i am sure half of the absolute nuggets posting on this forum.. he married because he loved, his daughter was the result of love and he was sure not going to let her suffer because that marriage failed. he spoke to her twice a day, made sure money was there for the daughter, he is a great dad and probably a better ex husband than most of us are husbands. ,

He is loyal, honest and possibly a better man than me, he has not been seen, everyone is worried,his parents must be beside themselves as you would if your child went missing, no matter how old, your still a parent and they are still a child. Yet all the majority of you lot can do is make assumptions, slag each other off, with the odd concerned person, the odd bit of humanity towards Stevens plight and that of his friends and family, Be a forum, be a group of people, dont bombard this forum with trash, use it to pass on your thoughts to parents desperate, to a daughter that just wants her dad, post photos, keep your eyes and ears open and if murder has been committed, help bring the guilty to bear.

Before you go posting on sights like this, just stop. think. and at least be respectful of the topic.. if you lot want to bash expats abroad, or oldies, or thai working girts etc then i am sure there are forum topics to do so... not on the topic of someone missing presumed murdered.

You are right in a way but what makes this news is that he didn't may like millions of other people, he married a Pattaya woman,with tattoos.We all know what that means although many who also have done it are in denial.

I hope your friend turns up alive.

She had tattoo's, so please expand your childish and stupid statement of "that means"-- what does it mean exactly?

Not childish. As other's here will testify, it means she is or was a prostitute.

my partner is thai and had 2 small tattoos when i met her. i invite you to meet up and tell her to her face that she 'must be a prostitute'. i guarantee you that you will end up as a topic on this forum but you wont be in a position to read it.

How is it that the topic is about a father who has gone missing and presumed murdered and all you children on TV can do is bicker with each other.

Grow up already.

Well done Rayk, Steve is a close mate, a great lad who absolutely adores his daughter, he is dependable, organised he does not just dissapear... he like millions of people married and divorced, he actually lasted a lot longer married than i am sure half of the absolute nuggets posting on this forum.. he married because he loved, his daughter was the result of love and he was sure not going to let her suffer because that marriage failed. he spoke to her twice a day, made sure money was there for the daughter, he is a great dad and probably a better ex husband than most of us are husbands. ,

He is loyal, honest and possibly a better man than me, he has not been seen, everyone is worried,his parents must be beside themselves as you would if your child went missing, no matter how old, your still a parent and they are still a child. Yet all the majority of you lot can do is make assumptions, slag each other off, with the odd concerned person, the odd bit of humanity towards Stevens plight and that of his friends and family, Be a forum, be a group of people, dont bombard this forum with trash, use it to pass on your thoughts to parents desperate, to a daughter that just wants her dad, post photos, keep your eyes and ears open and if murder has been committed, help bring the guilty to bear.

Before you go posting on sights like this, just stop. think. and at least be respectful of the topic.. if you lot want to bash expats abroad, or oldies, or thai working girts etc then i am sure there are forum topics to do so... not on the topic of someone missing presumed murdered.

You are right in a way but what makes this news is that he didn't may like millions of other people, he married a Pattaya woman,with tattoos.We all know what that means although many who also have done it are in denial.

I hope your friend turns up alive.

She had tattoo's, so please expand your childish and stupid statement of "that means"-- what does it mean exactly?

Not childish. As other's here will testify, it means she is or was a prostitute.

my partner is thai and had 2 small tattoos when i met her. i invite you to meet up and tell her to her face that she 'must be a prostitute'. i guarantee you that you will end up as a topic on this forum but you wont be in a position to read it.

Ho, Rambo with the violent wife has entered the thread

With a delay of more than a month before ringing the bell, I fear he's a goner! Most likely the fight was about his daughter who most certainly has been parked with grandma or some "uncle" somewhere in Issaan until she's old enough to bcome a valuable "asset". The photo, the eyes and the staged "smile" of Nan tell me more than I even want to know...

His wife posted a few weeks back on FB asking whether friends etc had seen him.

Known them both 10+ years.

Interesting. I recall you saying you married a woman in Pattaya with tattoos.

Was he giving the woman money regularly?

Was he planning to take the daughter out of Pattaya, like any good father would?

Do you think the ex wife is capable of murder?

Had she found another client yet?

OK, the Scots guy made a bad decision in choosing a wife. That is not the issue here. Where is he and what happened is important.

Did the wife do it?

Many men come here and marry prostitutes, get over it it is a fact. I'd estimate that 2% end up having happy, long, loving relationships. So, it's a long shot gamble that seemingly many are willing to take when they see a beautiful younger woman. I'd say another 10% survive and live a pretty sad, lonely life in rural Isarn and eventually realize they made a mistake but have bought the house and car, are getting their old-age pension and too scared to make a new start - their ego is hurt and end up bitter posters, hating Thailand an making generalized assumptions about all Thai people.

Many marry normal Thai women, and some, especially the Pattata dwellers, can't understand this.

Excellent post.

It sums-up this topic very well indeed.

Any farang who would marry a bargirl needs a check-up from the neck up.

OK, the Scots guy made a bad decision in choosing a wife. That is not the issue here. Where is he and what happened is important.

Did the wife do it?

Many men come here and marry prostitutes, get over it it is a fact. I'd estimate that 2% end up having happy, long, loving relationships. So, it's a long shot gamble that seemingly many are willing to take when they see a beautiful younger woman. I'd say another 10% survive and live a pretty sad, lonely life in rural Isarn and eventually realize they made a mistake but have bought the house and car, are getting their old-age pension and too scared to make a new start - their ego is hurt and end up bitter posters, hating Thailand an making generalized assumptions about all Thai people.

Many marry normal Thai women, and some, especially the Pattata dwellers, can't understand this.

Excellent post.

It sums-up this topic very well indeed.

Any farang who would marry a bargirl needs a check-up from the neck up.

Or leave the viagra alone for a bit in order to resupply the brain with blood.

Yup there's another one for sure.... R.I.P where ever you are....11yrs here for me now and I hate this country, my plans to return home are coming soon....it's a bitter and brutal country once you look deeper into the people who live here.....bye bye Lieland

If not wanting to go home abitmiffed then try Vietnam.

If anyone can't hack it in Thailand, the Vietnamese will chew 'em up and spit 'em out in bubbles.