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wonder of the guy he got in a fight with was his girls new man. bar girls are amazing at manipulating their customers. you never know what a thai is thinking behind their smile. i know a couple guys who thought they had great relationships who got dumped and told their girl always hated them. i have 2 kids with a thai girl and we get along ok. i pay her a monthly salary. i am worth more to her alive so hopefully it will stay that way.

I am going to tell you a true story. Several years ago I was a regular customer at a small Chiang Mai massage parlour. One of the staff was a particular beautiful girl, a stunner in my eyes probably in her mid 20s, spoke fluent English and I always requested her for my massage. After several visits she began giving me services over and above her call of duty and I wasn`t complaining. Then out of the blue she said; OK, I`m yours I`ll be your girlfriend from now on. Then within an instant she asked me to take her shopping for clothes and jewellery at the Airport Plaza, in the days before the other shopping malls were open. I`m no mug but playing her along I said OK. She said, lets go right now and I replied, no, we`ll go tomorrow actually having no intentions of doing so because all I wanted after this happened was out of there.

Once finished she escorted me outside the building holding my arm very luvvy dubby. Standing there was a Farlang man in is 40s with red hair. He was giving me the most dagger of stares, if looks could kill I would have been dead on the spot. I realised that she must have given that man the same spiel only he believed it and considered me as someone imposing between him and the new found love of his life. Being aware I could be placing myself into a dangerous situation I never returned to that parlour. The massage parlour is still there but now staffed with much older women and that girl has long gone, never seen her since nor want to.

A cautionary tale. Never let that dangly thing below the waist override the grey matter in-between the ears.

your last comment is so right, but sadly for many lonely Farang that haven't had sex for god knows how long, back in there own country and probably never with a sexy young woman like they can pick up here at any bar,, seem to think it is love... maybe on their part, but money is the love on the girls part..

Like one girl I was with, had tattooed on her lower back '<deleted> ck and forget' ... Good advise, men with bar girls and prostitutes, need to do the same !!!

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Enough of this rubish a thread about a missing man turns into all thai women with tattoos are prostitutes and bar girls only want your money, oh yes and there all going to murder you. Sad lonley deluded men but if you manage to get yourself off on it enjoy that way you won't get robbed or murdered unless of course your right hand decides to stab you

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wonder of the guy he got in a fight with was his girls new man. bar girls are amazing at manipulating their customers. you never know what a thai is thinking behind their smile. i know a couple guys who thought they had great relationships who got dumped and told their girl always hated them. i have 2 kids with a thai girl and we get along ok. i pay her a monthly salary. i am worth more to her alive so hopefully it will stay that way.

I am going to tell you a true story. Several years ago I was a regular customer at a small Chiang Mai massage parlour. One of the staff was a particular beautiful girl and I always requested her for my massage. After several visits she began giving me services over and above her normal duty and I wasn`t complaining. Then out of the blue she said; OK, I`

Thank goodness you completed the story in a later post - I was getting quite excited!

same here, only i found the ending a bit of a let down ;0)

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wonder of the guy he got in a fight with was his girls new man. bar girls are amazing at manipulating their customers. you never know what a thai is thinking behind their smile. i know a couple guys who thought they had great relationships who got dumped and told their girl always hated them. i have 2 kids with a thai girl and we get along ok. i pay her a monthly salary. i am worth more to her alive so hopefully it will stay that way.

You married someone that you don't know what they are thinking?

You give your wife a salary! What for exactly?

No wonder you get along ok.

people would joke about us and i would reply she is like my sister as i had no romantic interest in her. in the end she quit one day over a very small matter and wont even look at me if i see her in public. this is just one example of how hard it is to read thais.

Well, a small issue to most people, can be a big issue to a few..

Not just Thais...

And..

You may think, you can read into what people are thinking..

But I'm sure, some of those great employees of yours, really dislike you..

Your ex-employee, the one that was just like a sister to you..

She didn't think of you as a brother, and was just putting up with the situation, and did quit over a little issue??

"She didn't think of you as a brother, and was just putting up with the situation, and did quit over a little issue??"

Well it may be hard to read people but you seem to be able to do it without even meeting them or knowing them. Just a tad contradictory don't you think.

Nobody knows what has happened in this situation as yet, we don't even know who is involved in his disappearance or even if he is indeed in trouble or worse.

I hope that this works out for the best, it may not look good now but all anyone can do is hope. It would be a terrible shame if a soldier who has served his country in such dangerous places would fall foul to jealousy or rage to some relationship issue.

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wonder of the guy he got in a fight with was his girls new man. bar girls are amazing at manipulating their customers. you never know what a thai is thinking behind their smile. i know a couple guys who thought they had great relationships who got dumped and told their girl always hated them. i have 2 kids with a thai girl and we get along ok. i pay her a monthly salary. i am worth more to her alive so hopefully it will stay that way.

I am going to tell you a true story. Several years ago I was a regular customer at a small Chiang Mai massage parlour. One of the staff was a particular beautiful girl, a stunner in my eyes probably in her mid 20s, spoke fluent English and I always requested her for my massage. After several visits she began giving me services over and above her call of duty and I wasn`t complaining. Then out of the blue she said; OK, I`m yours I`ll be your girlfriend from now on. Then within an instant she asked me to take her shopping for clothes and jewellery at the Airport Plaza, in the days before the other shopping malls were open. I`m no mug but playing her along I said OK. She said, lets go right now and I replied, no, we`ll go tomorrow actually having no intentions of doing so because all I wanted after this happened was out of there.

Once finished she escorted me outside the building holding my arm very luvvy dubby. Standing there was a Farlang man in is 40s with red hair. He was giving me the most dagger of stares, if looks could kill I would have been dead on the spot. I realised that she must have given that man the same spiel only he believed it and considered me as someone imposing between him and the new found love of his life. Being aware I could be placing myself into a dangerous situation I never returned to that parlour. The massage parlour is still there but now staffed with much older women and that girl has long gone, never seen her since nor want to.

A cautionary tale. Never let that dangly thing below the waist override the grey matter in-between the ears.

Come on admit it, that red haired guy made you realize that there was at least one more interested party and he was probably bigger than you, and you just try to sound like the winner now.

I would have believed you if you had refrained from adding that last line, where you say that parlour is now staffed with much older women, which indicates that you've visited many times since looking for the love of your life.

My advise, next time don't waste so much time and get her to the mall right after you notice her.

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Any news about the guy whose gone missing or is this just about tattooed prostitutes now?

I guess until he or his body turns up, this is what you will get, comments about the ex,, but a lot has to do with his comment before he went missing , something about, if something happens to me, look at the ex..... he must have been expecting something bad would be happening to him ?

maybe he had already been threatened by her ! ...

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wonder of the guy he got in a fight with was his girls new man. bar girls are amazing at manipulating their customers. you never know what a thai is thinking behind their smile. i know a couple guys who thought they had great relationships who got dumped and told their girl always hated them. i have 2 kids with a thai girl and we get along ok. i pay her a monthly salary. i am worth more to her alive so hopefully it will stay that way.

I am going to tell you a true story. Several years ago I was a regular customer at a small Chiang Mai massage parlour. One of the staff was a particular beautiful girl, a stunner in my eyes probably in her mid 20s, spoke fluent English and I always requested her for my massage. After several visits she began giving me services over and above her call of duty and I wasn`t complaining. Then out of the blue she said; OK, I`m yours I`ll be your girlfriend from now on. Then within an instant she asked me to take her shopping for clothes and jewellery at the Airport Plaza, in the days before the other shopping malls were open. I`m no mug but playing her along I said OK. She said, lets go right now and I replied, no, we`ll go tomorrow actually having no intentions of doing so because all I wanted after this happened was out of there.

Once finished she escorted me outside the building holding my arm very luvvy dubby. Standing there was a Farlang man in is 40s with red hair. He was giving me the most dagger of stares, if looks could kill I would have been dead on the spot. I realised that she must have given that man the same spiel only he believed it and considered me as someone imposing between him and the new found love of his life. Being aware I could be placing myself into a dangerous situation I never returned to that parlour. The massage parlour is still there but now staffed with much older women and that girl has long gone, never seen her since nor want to.

A cautionary tale. Never let that dangly thing below the waist override the grey matter in-between the ears.

Come on admit it, that red haired guy made you realize that there was at least one more interested party and he was probably bigger than you, and you just try to sound like the winner now.

I would have believed you if you had refrained from adding that last line, where you say that parlour is now staffed with much older women, which indicates that you've visited many times since looking for the love of your life.

My advise, next time don't waste so much time and get her to the mall right after you notice her.

good advise ? haha, get them to the mall to spend money on them,, sure that is exactly what they want !!!! not your charm & love....

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As usual a totally pitiful response from the British Embassy. Are British Embassies the worst of the developed world? They seem so to me.totally arrogant staff who do nothing.

What are they supposed to do...call in the British navy (do they still have a navy) to blockade the port of Bangkok until this missing Scotch is found? Don't forget, something like 90% of people who go "missing" do not want to be found.

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As usual a totally pitiful response from the British Embassy. Are British Embassies the worst of the developed world? They seem so to me.totally arrogant staff who do nothing.

What are they supposed to do...call in the British navy (do they still have a navy) to blockade the port of Bangkok until this missing Scotch is found? Don't forget, something like 90% of people who go "missing" do not want to be found.

I didn't know he'd also lost his whisky ... where did it say his "Scotch" was missing? You can call him Scots, Scottish or Scotsman ... but never Scotch.

Something like 90% of missing people do not want to be found? I suppose if they've been killed they probably don't care much, having moved on to other celestial planes. A guy who makes the effort to visit Thailand to see his young daughter is unlikely to just disappear without a reason. I do hope you are right and the man is found safe and sound ... but I suspect that you're wrong unfortunately. The Embassy should be pressing the Thai authorities to find this guy ... but they only care about an easy life, the bunch of gin-soaked wasters ... the only way the family will get action is through publicity and creating a stink.

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Nobody should marry a Pattaya woman. They are business women who are there for business.

Your post is as ignorant and foolish as so many others. Pattaya belongs to Chonburi province and all the go-go bars etc..can't make all Pattaya girls/ women to evil human beings who're only waiting for the right foreigner to rip him off.

Now we are talking about a few thousand bar girls who are prostitutes, but there're also a few thousand girls and women who're not working in the sex industry.

The population of Pattaya in 2010 was about 108,000 people. Do you really believe that all Pattaya girls/ women are working in the sex industry?

If yes, please be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry, for going off topic. i personally don't think that the guy will be found alive, considering the circumstances. The going rate to let somebody disappear in this part of the world is very low.

Numbers go from 15 K in Isaan to 100 K. Contract killers come from Cambodia, do their job and leave. I still hope that he'll be found alive and something happened that we don't understand.

But calling all Pattaya woman prostitutes shouldn't be allowed to write on an open forum like that.

It's really sad to read so many brainless posts where people are trying to make jokes about a guy, in this case a loving father, who just disappeared.

It could have been your brother, or best friend. And knowing that his father's reading all these posts doesn't make it better.

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What's a young, good looking, healthy guy doing married to a brass?

I know that's a bit blunt, so apologies to any who're offended.

That's most likely why she married him, and not a 50 year old, overweight farang...
Amazing there are always people like you in this forum criticizing old fat farangs. Live long enough, in Thailand, you just might make it to see 50 and happy to be fat. Young with a hard cocktail or old with an implant doesn't matter to women here. You can still come up murdered for what they truly love you for... MONEY. And to all you men who give your girlfriends or wives a salary... I ask did you give your girlfriend or wife a salary back in your home country? Crazy... Because Tea Money, in any scenario, only breeds greed in Thailand.

Hardy critizing 50 year olds, that are fat on my reply.

Many older farangs are getting used and abused by good looking Thai women..

Nothing wrong with that!

It's just happens less often, that a TG marries a 27 year old, that is not wealthy.

So, it seems their relationship started as, a girl meets boy - boy meets girl - fall in love story..

Anyway...

Your taxed income, breeds greed in Thailand??

Not necessary to use the TEA acronym, in an attempt to get your point across..

Giving the girl a salary,, haha, if you only visit her and not living here the chances are your only one of 3 or 4 guys giving her a salary. so she can go live at home with her kids and family ,,, hahaha yeah right,,,, and just come back to Pattaya the day before you come to see the love of your life again.. If she tells you she can't meet you till the next week , chances are shes with one of the other 3 guys then..

enjoy them, they can be a lot of fun,, but marry one?? woooooo, not for me !!!

I never married..

Just have kids from a few women back in the States..

All child support paid to date!

Including my son, that was born in Thailand..

The things you're sharing with me is true...

For those that sponsor bargirls in most cases.

So, you're not telling me things, I don't all ready know..

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Nobody should marry a Pattaya woman. They are business women who are there for business.

Your post is as ignorant and foolish as so many others. Pattaya belongs to Chonburi province and all the go-go bars etc..can't make all Pattaya girls/ women to evil human beings who're only waiting for the right foreigner to rip him off.

Now we are talking about a few thousand bar girls who are prostitutes, but there're also a few thousand girls and women who're not working in the sex industry.

The population of Pattaya in 2010 was about 108,000 people. Do you really believe that all Pattaya girls/ women are working in the sex industry?

If yes, please be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry, for going off topic. i personally don't think that the guy will be found alive, considering the circumstances. The going rate to let somebody disappear in this part of the world is very low.

Numbers go from 15 K in Isaan to 100 K. Contract killers come from Cambodia, do their job and leave. I still hope that he'll be found alive and something happened that we don't understand.

But calling all Pattaya woman prostitutes shouldn't be allowed to write on an open forum like that.

It's really sad to read so many brainless posts where people are trying to make jokes about a guy, in this case a loving father, who just disappeared.

It could have been your brother, or best friend. And knowing that his father's reading all these posts doesn't make it better.

Guess who met his gf in a 7/11 in Oattaya?

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Nice to see how caring peole here in tv are.

13 pages and at least 10 of them are just pure crap.

Stay in topic you heartless morons.

I completely agree, I know I will feel the wrath of the moderators on this with their rules, but it really needs to be said.

How can they allow this drivel and conjecture to go ahead, the man's family and friends are reading this. If there is ever a case for moderation then keep this on topic, respectful and above all useful as a resource.

What is posted here..

Is or should be, within in the rules, setforth in this TV forum..

I made a comment to "one" individual, less offensive than calling a "group" of people "morons"..

And received a warning for it..

So, my opinion is..

Just enjoy the nonsense that comes with reading the opinions of others..

No matter how ridiculous or moronic, it is..

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Nobody should marry a Pattaya woman. They are business women who are there for business.

Your post is as ignorant and foolish as so many others. Pattaya belongs to Chonburi province and all the go-go bars etc..can't make all Pattaya girls/ women to evil human beings who're only waiting for the right foreigner to rip him off.

Now we are talking about a few thousand bar girls who are prostitutes, but there're also a few thousand girls and women who're not working in the sex industry.

The population of Pattaya in 2010 was about 108,000 people. Do you really believe that all Pattaya girls/ women are working in the sex industry?

If yes, please be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry, for going off topic. i personally don't think that the guy will be found alive, considering the circumstances. The going rate to let somebody disappear in this part of the world is very low.

Numbers go from 15 K in Isaan to 100 K. Contract killers come from Cambodia, do their job and leave. I still hope that he'll be found alive and something happened that we don't understand.

But calling all Pattaya woman prostitutes shouldn't be allowed to write on an open forum like that.

It's really sad to read so many brainless posts where people are trying to make jokes about a guy, in this case a loving father, who just disappeared.

It could have been your brother, or best friend. And knowing that his father's reading all these posts doesn't make it better.

Guess who met his gf in a 7/11 in Oattaya?

She does look familiar!

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“I reported him missing to the British Embassy in Bangkok and to offices in London but nothing has been done since.

“The Thai police can’t really do anything until the British Embassy get involved, and that hasn’t happened."

“We’ve tried to get help from the local embassy but they don’t seem interested,"

Is it necessary to remind to our embassies that their main and first mission (consulate section) is to help and do everything they can for their citizens who are in danger or have difficulties abroad. Nowadays, only money and business contracts mean something for our so called "diplomats" who are paid thanks to the taxes we pay.

A disgrace !

Piss poor performance - they've got a job to do as official civil servants. The reciprocal basis issue could be the let down here; it seems like Thailand is in the process of cutting itself off from previous worldly agreements - the big <deleted>. Wrong, but if it doesn't effect them directly who cares?

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Nobody should marry a Pattaya woman. They are business women who are there for business.

Your post is as ignorant and foolish as so many others. Pattaya belongs to Chonburi province and all the go-go bars etc..can't make all Pattaya girls/ women to evil human beings who're only waiting for the right foreigner to rip him off.

Now we are talking about a few thousand bar girls who are prostitutes, but there're also a few thousand girls and women who're not working in the sex industry.

The population of Pattaya in 2010 was about 108,000 people. Do you really believe that all Pattaya girls/ women are working in the sex industry?

If yes, please be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry, for going off topic. i personally don't think that the guy will be found alive, considering the circumstances. The going rate to let somebody disappear in this part of the world is very low.

Numbers go from 15 K in Isaan to 100 K. Contract killers come from Cambodia, do their job and leave. I still hope that he'll be found alive and something happened that we don't understand.

But calling all Pattaya woman prostitutes shouldn't be allowed to write on an open forum like that.

It's really sad to read so many brainless posts where people are trying to make jokes about a guy, in this case a loving father, who just disappeared.

It could have been your brother, or best friend. And knowing that his father's reading all these posts doesn't make it better.

Guess who met his gf in a 7/11 in Oattaya?

She does look familiar!

From the front?

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Nobody should marry a Pattaya woman. They are business women who are there for business.

Your post is as ignorant and foolish as so many others. Pattaya belongs to Chonburi province and all the go-go bars etc..can't make all Pattaya girls/ women to evil human beings who're only waiting for the right foreigner to rip him off.

Now we are talking about a few thousand bar girls who are prostitutes, but there're also a few thousand girls and women who're not working in the sex industry.

The population of Pattaya in 2010 was about 108,000 people. Do you really believe that all Pattaya girls/ women are working in the sex industry?

If yes, please be ashamed of yourself.

Sorry, for going off topic. i personally don't think that the guy will be found alive, considering the circumstances. The going rate to let somebody disappear in this part of the world is very low.

Numbers go from 15 K in Isaan to 100 K. Contract killers come from Cambodia, do their job and leave. I still hope that he'll be found alive and something happened that we don't understand.

But calling all Pattaya woman prostitutes shouldn't be allowed to write on an open forum like that.

It's really sad to read so many brainless posts where people are trying to make jokes about a guy, in this case a loving father, who just disappeared.

It could have been your brother, or best friend. And knowing that his father's reading all these posts doesn't make it better.

Population of Pattaya 108K in 2010?

Which soi was that ?

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Pattaya tattood darkskin bargirl as a wife. Excellent decision ?... Love kills.[/quote

did I not read correct where does it say bar girl????

Yea…she's actually a school teacher…that pic was taken at a halloween party.

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Nice to see how caring peole here in tv are.

13 pages and at least 10 of them are just pure crap.

Stay in topic you heartless morons.

I completely agree, I know I will feel the wrath of the moderators on this with their rules, but it really needs to be said.

How can they allow this drivel and conjecture to go ahead, the man's family and friends are reading this. If there is ever a case for moderation then keep this on topic, respectful and above all useful as a resource.

What is posted here..

Is or should be, within in the rules, setforth in this TV forum..

I made a comment to "one" individual, less offensive than calling a "group" of people "morons"..

And received a warning for it..

So, my opinion is..

Just enjoy the nonsense that comes with reading the opinions of others..

No matter how ridiculous or moronic, it is..

Funny that your complaining about people not staying on the topic, when none of this is..... your post is as bad as any your moaning about,,

as you don't mention 'one word' about the guy or his ex...... listen to your own advise, uh !!!

It is peoples opinions and people will have differing ideas and thoughts, if you don't like it, then stop reading, a simple solution... !!

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Well, this has been an interesting topic. Thanks for the enterainment! Quite a range of stances here from politically correct, defensive to abject prejudice. I understand the prejudice because I have my own, but then, I openly admit that I am 'bigoted' about certain subjects.

I come from a mixed marriage, by the way - British father/Asian mother. My parents are still together after 50+ years, but I would never recommend a mixed marriage - ever. While they rarely, if ever argue, this doesn't necessarily mean that she's in agreement or intends to be compliant. It just means she's going to pick the right moment to 'persuade' him. The more experienced of you will know what I mean. All four children in my family have, by degrees, witnessed her manipulation / attempts at manipulation. From inside experience, you have to be very sure of your values to resist it or to challenge it. Only 2/4 children had that amount of stamina or insight in our family so I try not to judge too harshly.

My father is a very simple, relatively easy-going guy. He has few diplomatic skills and tries hard to keep the peace. However, I have never believed that 'marriage' is about being 'nice' (I never believed in Father Christmas either - why would I? I'm Asian); so theirs is not what I call a "good marriage" despite their years together and despite what they say about each other.

Based on a straw poll of men who marry Asian women like my father and his friends; and based on the men who have approached me personally, as Asian female/not mixed, for a date, the majority seem to share one thing in common; they are highly insecure, usually about their looks and/or certain body parts. I'm fairly sure they share this in common with other European males, most notably those seeking Russian brides. The men who have openly asked me to have an "affair" with them (yes, the temerity of British men), are highly arrogant; and neither type is attractive, I can tell you!

To the 'righteous' farangs married to Asian women, just watch out for the time she puts you in a home in your sunset years as this is very un-Asian. This will be proof of whether she was there primarily for the money and security - even if there was once lust. Marrying money is not peculiarly Thai. Let's not kid ourselves. It's been around since time immemorial. Having lived abroad for 30 years now, I've observed the same practice amongst Chinese, Filipino and in the Middle East, Russian women. I also know quite a few British women in their 60's who are/were in it for the money or who targeted doctors or rich businessmen.

While I don't agree with this strategy irrespective of nationality, during a period when I couldn't afford meat, I did find myself asking if they were the more practical ones and maybe I would have been better off being monied not just meaningful rolleyes.gif Then my moral compass reminded me how socially repugnant I found older white men with gorgeous Chinese girls and wives when I lived in China. Eyes open...you are paying for that privelege, guys. That's a choice. Some men are prepared to gamble, but need to be reminded that the "house" always wins!

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Some rather strange comments made here.

If I had had 2 children with a Thai wife, & we had split & she had the kids I would send her money for the kids every month.

Any guy who would not is a bit strange, don"t you think?

Im sure Thai man all do the same too eh?

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Some rather strange comments made here.

If I had had 2 children with a Thai wife, & we had split & she had the kids I would send her money for the kids every month.

Any guy who would not is a bit strange, don"t you think?

Im sure Thai man all do the same too eh?

I can see your joking, but Thai men don't... that is why there are all these woman working bars and the streets in Patong and Pattaya,

as 90% ( I guess ) have kids to a Thai guy,, and now they work to feed it and their family.. and most of them are not interested in Thai guys at all !!!!

Looking for a western guy to marry, or have a kid with, because they know he will pay ....

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Some rather strange comments made here.

If I had had 2 children with a Thai wife, & we had split & she had the kids I would send her money for the kids every month.

Any guy who would not is a bit strange, don"t you think?

Im sure Thai man all do the same too eh?

I can see your joking, but Thai men don't... that is why there are all these woman working bars and the streets in Patong and Pattaya,

as 90% ( I guess ) have kids to a Thai guy,, and now they work to feed it and their family.. and most of them are not interested in Thai guys at all !!!!

Looking for a western guy to marry, or have a kid with, because they know he will pay ....

And I think I have said before, why would she kill him, if he's giving her money for the kid ??

Maybe he has a life insurance policy for the kid, that she wants to collect on...

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