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Posted

...Thailand is a vacation destination and as a matter of mental health it is ALWAYS bad news to turn a vacation destination into a RESIDENCE.

Best to clear out on an annual basis for a few months. Bad news to also be worth more dead than alive to any kon Tai, anywhere, anytime!

Posted (edited)

Thanks heaven that I have no need to do a business in this country.

Best wishes for the victim.

There are two things I would never do n respect to Thailand. One is start or be associated with a business here and the second is hire Thai's to work for me (have in the past and was very disappointed with their attitude towards work).

Some will criticize me for the above but that is my choice

I support you 100%. though our experiences are different.

100 years of business training in the west won't prepare you for managing Asians, Thais included. Nor will it prepare you for the vagaries of doing business under the Eastern culture.

That said, we have hundreds of Thais working for us and have very favorable experience with them. But managing them is different than "back home". Not better. Not worse. Different.

There's no shame in deciding that it isn't something you'd like to participate in. Usually, that's a wise decision. I'd never do it on my own, either. But I became involved in a pretty satisfactory pre-existing situation involving hundreds of Thais doing business in Thailand.

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The stabbing was the result of an ongoing feud between Kittichai and Mr Smith, who has been living in Thailand for many years, Lt Weerayuth said.

On Monday, Lt Weerayuth said that witnesses reported that both men had altercations many times because Mr Smith’s wife and Kittichai have surfboard rental businesses in the same area.

Read more at http://www.thephuketnews.com/phuket-surfboard-renter-charged-with-attempted-murder-for-stabbing-nz-man-58012.php#plUpcgSrdifrF8Gt.99

Yeah, and both are using public land for their businesses...

After it was proclaimed that there will be "no commerce on the beach"

Aww c'mon, they just say these things to "grandstand" themselves. They don't mean it. wai.gifcoffee1.gif

Posted

When this news, plus the police-rape story in Patts hits the western tabloids it'll mean even more future tourists thinking twice about coming here for their 'dream holiday'..every week there's yet more stories of tourists suffering attacks, deaths, & countless scams..& it seems nothing much is being done to curb it all..(this being a country where an 'arrest' is only made to please the press..actual conviction is something else..!)

Posted

Probably let him off with a slapped wrist as he "surrendered himself" !!!

The surrender would probably have involved some pre-surrender negotiations (with transaction) and his agreement of acceptance of token penalty.

Posted (edited)

Don't like the competition, Kill them!

Sounds more like NYC mafia!!

How's a man walking competition ? Edited by mihalis
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Phuket is a hot bed of animals like this. They never spend time in jail. I love Phuket and it is a wonderful place. Please be careful what you say or what you do when contacting Thais on the beach.

Though I don't disagree that Phuket is a hotbed for "animals like this" in this case, he will absolutely get time in jail and most likely be sentenced to at least 10 years as there is no doubt of his guilt and this story is yet another black eye not only for tourism but for tourism business in general.

Posted

Thanks heaven that I have no need to do a business in this country.

Best wishes for the victim.

There are two things I would never do n respect to Thailand. One is start or be associated with a business here and the second is hire Thai's to work for me (have in the past and was very disappointed with their attitude towards work).

Some will criticize me for the above but that is my choice

Your choice indeed; and my choice to criticize anybody who would write such a pathetically ridiculous post, but very happy that Thais will not have to work with the kind of people who display your kind of attitude.

There are millions of excellent Thai workers, but the problem is much more likely that someone who writes this kind of nonsense is not educated or qualified enough to hold a technical management position an thus has no knowledge of the many, many highly professional Thai's from office assistants up to managing directors.

In very few countries do the staff work as hard and for such (voluntarily) long hours as they do in Thailand.

And it's not just professionals, there are vast numbers of very proficient manual and blue colour factory workers here who can dig, build, paint (and manufacture the world best pick-ups for instance) to match the best anywhere and on very low wages.

Its just pathetic to write this kind of racist crap.

What on earth has this to do with a stabbing by a surfboard renter?

Those who chose to write stupid posts like this cannot chose to be offended when their ignorance and racism is ridiculed.

although i agree with many of your points, the SOP "racism" PC term is getting old. thais are clearly not a race as theres a mix of several ethnic backgrounds. the term racism has become so popular that is is quite frequently used in non applicable situations.

i think the the posters comment was in the context of the guy who tried to kill - eliminate his competition mentality. in addition it seems management in thailand can be challenging to say the least.

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Geez

What was the man thinking ...besides not really using his pea brain to consider what happens when you stab someone with a knife.

Besides being very angry at the foreigner I surmise the Thai man thinks he was entitled to stab the Foreigner with impunity as he was probably thinking:

Around here, many Foreigners are killed or beaten up or harmed while nothing or certainly not much is done about it, so....I can do this and the police will not do much about it....so Yeah...I can do this ...like... right now......stab, stab.

Hopefully, in this case, the police will do something about it and see that the man is prosecuted and off to prison for several years and then compensate the victim and his wife by giving all the Surfboard business assets belonging to the Thai man to the victim.

Unfortunately, if this case was to be followed and publicized and we were privy to the details, I bet we would learn the victim and his wife will have to pay a substantial amount of money to the lethargic and uncaring police who will not follow through on the case unless they feel some money in their hands...or just do the basic police work and ignore the follow up work that is needed to put the perpetrator in prison where he should be.

Cheers

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Posted

Thanks heaven that I have no need to do a business in this country.

Best wishes for the victim.

There are two things I would never do n respect to Thailand. One is start or be associated with a business here and the second is hire Thai's to work for me (have in the past and was very disappointed with their attitude towards work).

Some will criticize me for the above but that is my choice

I support you 100%. though our experiences are different.

100 years of business training in the west won't prepare you for managing Asians, Thais included. Nor will it prepare you for the vagaries of doing business under the Eastern culture.

That said, we have hundreds of Thais working for us and have very favorable experience with them. But managing them is different than "back home". Not better. Not worse. Different.

There's no shame in deciding that it isn't something you'd like to participate in. Usually, that's a wise decision. I'd never do it on my own, either. But I became involved in a pretty satisfactory pre-existing situation involving hundreds of Thais doing business in Thailand.

100 years of business training in the west won't prepare you for managing westerners. Nor will it prepare you for the vagaries of doing business under the Western culture.

Whatever "Culture" means.....certainly does not apply to these posters.......... Oh sorry that should be cultured.

To be a good manager you need to manage, not spend 100 years learning to be a boy wonder.

It does not matter what your background, if you can manage people you can manage them anywhere.

All the MBA's in the world do not make you a good manager. Sucessful management speaks for itself.

Its the same old, same old, if you can't manage in the East "Go West Young Man". In other words why the hell are you still here and winging about it?

And "back-home" are all TV posters from Manchester or something? Back home can be anywhere from Chile to Canberra. Do they all have the same business culture? do they fxxk. Well that's probably the only thing they do have in common.

Posted

Thanks heaven that I have no need to do a business in this country.

Best wishes for the victim.

There are two things I would never do n respect to Thailand. One is start or be associated with a business here and the second is hire Thai's to work for me (have in the past and was very disappointed with their attitude towards work).

Some will criticize me for the above but that is my choice

Your choice indeed; and my choice to criticize anybody who would write such a pathetically ridiculous post, but very happy that Thais will not have to work with the kind of people who display your kind of attitude.

There are millions of excellent Thai workers, but the problem is much more likely that someone who writes this kind of nonsense is not educated or qualified enough to hold a technical management position an thus has no knowledge of the many, many highly professional Thai's from office assistants up to managing directors.

In very few countries do the staff work as hard and for such (voluntarily) long hours as they do in Thailand.

And it's not just professionals, there are vast numbers of very proficient manual and blue colour factory workers here who can dig, build, paint (and manufacture the world best pick-ups for instance) to match the best anywhere and on very low wages.

Its just pathetic to write this kind of racist crap.

What on earth has this to do with a stabbing by a surfboard renter?

Those who chose to write stupid posts like this cannot chose to be offended when their ignorance and racism is ridiculed.

although i agree with many of your points, the SOP "racism" PC term is getting old. thais are clearly not a race as theres a mix of several ethnic backgrounds. the term racism has become so popular that is is quite frequently used in non applicable situations.

i think the the posters comment was in the context of the guy who tried to kill - eliminate his competition mentality. in addition it seems management in thailand can be challenging to say the least.

I am getting old but I know anti Thai racism when I read it. The posters comment was that he thought all Thais were bloody useless workers. Nothing to do with the main topic.

Try telling a Thai Chinese they are not Thai. The English are a very mixed lot, but they are still the English race, French, Germans, etc.

What do you suggest calling Thai's, mongrel Cambodians? Do try it and see if you don't lean a thing or two about knives.

Posted

im a lifelong shortboard surfer and it is very very depressing to hear about this story.

at patong beach kalim side board costs 500 baht per hour to rent??

always use my own board. crazy expensive, little competition, and not many waves. in bali you can rent a board for 1 day for 500 baht.

Posted

Quoting post # 17

something is not right. wonder what the reason fir the stabbing was

Correct, lets interview this Kiwi and get his side of things,

i'm all for balanced reporting, unlike the Brexit, no matter how one

sided the push to stay (CNN BBC) EGG ON YER FACE YOUZE

GOT IT WRONG, i'll rub your noses in it till i die, you FROGS are

next, mark my words.

Posted

Thanks heaven that I have no need to do a business in this country.

Best wishes for the victim.

There are two things I would never do n respect to Thailand. One is start or be associated with a business here and the second is hire Thai's to work for me (have in the past and was very disappointed with their attitude towards work).

Some will criticize me for the above but that is my choice

555+ then you became a member of Thai Visa; what you state is common knowledge here, unless you're there every day running things and they're relying fully on you for money: then and only then, maybe; a friend of mine has 20 female Thais (successfully) working for him. What you state is fair but probably more of an indication of your failure or/to misunderstanding of the culture. Although agreed I've seen & heard some horror stories here.

Posted

I hope that a cop circulated among any people that were witness to this horrible event and confiscated their mobiles and cameras. Any chance of this hitting the social media must be stopped dead in its tracks.

Really, only reason for turning himself in so quickly was most likely his cousin was on duty, swept quickly under the rug; rubber stamped for 'a good effort' and good lad just a little to much ya-ba this week, some silly misdemeanour charge (inappropriate behaviour in public) 1500 baht fine, "don't do that to a farang again" said the judge "not good for tourism - you know the rules". Bloody joke, uneducated lawless fools - corruption breeds mediocrity.

Posted

I hope that a cop circulated among any people that were witness to this horrible event and confiscated their mobiles and cameras. Any chance of this hitting the social media must be stopped dead in its tracks.

Really, only reason for turning himself in so quickly was most likely his cousin was on duty, swept quickly under the rug; rubber stamped for 'a good effort' and good lad just a little to much ya-ba this week, some silly misdemeanour charge (inappropriate behaviour in public) 1500 baht fine, "don't do that to a farang again" said the judge "not good for tourism - you know the rules". Bloody joke, uneducated lawless fools - corruption breeds mediocrity.
What a load of uninformed nonsense.
Posted

Foreigner stabbed in the back by a Thai ... never!

How the norm, sarcastic bitter farang reply ! ???

Bitter?

Not at all. I love my life here with my young family.

Just arrived have you?

Posted (edited)

A free translation of Steelpulse's earlier deleted post. Apparently there were issues between the NZ guy's/his kids and the rest of the neighbourhood. These issues reached a boiling point because of the NZ's guy behaviour.

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Posted

A free translation of Steelpulse's earlier deleted post. Apparently there were issues between the NZ guy's/his kids and the rest of the neighbourhood. These issues reached a boiling point because of the NZ's guy behaviour.

Parked his A35 in someone else's spot did he?

Posted

i cannot believe it.

when will this problem with the surfboard operators be taken care of.

the offender stabs someone in the back and escapes on a motorbike. and then

he turns himself in.

something is not right. wonder what the reason fir the stabbing was and what punishment

will be meted out.

Better to read the post in its entirety, which includes the link, and all will be revealed.

It certainly seems that Thais have a problem with anger management, immaturity perhaps?

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