14 minutes ago, wayned said:

Where do you buy the pr-made pizza dough?  I know that you live in Samui, where life's a beach, with abundant farang food available.  I live in the boonies now with the closest Tesco 50 kilometers, Big C and Makro 100 kilometers away.

 

Sorry, mentioned some pages back that I was in the UK and figured is was OK to continue to post since I spend most of my time on Samui and what I'm eating is things I miss when in Thailand. Tenuous argument but got away with it so far.

 

I've not found frozen pizza dough in Thailand but then I've never really looked for it. Creating various dishes for my sister and her family while I'm here and figured pizza early in the week because it can use up leftovers kept from the weekend. Cheap meal. Unroll the base which is rolled in grease and oven proof paper and it's about 16"x10". Good product.

 

If you need pizza dough then maybe go to the nearest pizza joint, buy some balls from them and freeze them. Dough freezes well but you don't want to leave it too long. Couple of weeks or so the bonds start to break down so in the end it would be like shortcrust pastry. It should also be noted that you can keep dough for quite some time in a sealed cool environment. I'll stop now as there a lot of better bread makers on this thread.

 

Yea, we are pretty fortunate down here on Samui as far as farang foods are concerned. Got a smokehouse up the road a bit... Couple of Russian fellas with their wives and they put out some seriously good stuff. We also have seafood which is both abundant and cheap though ultimately you pay extra elsewhere such as the cost of living here. I've friends up in the deepest darkest parts of Isan who live just as well as myself at half the price.... better even. We got two Makro, two Tescolotus and a Big C and wherever you are on the island, one of them is going to be maximum 30 minutes away.

 

Good thread this and is indicative of what people are willing to go through to get the taste they really want.

 

the pizza dough is easy to make with local ingredients, see previous discussion on this thread and loads of recipes on google...I had it dicked after a couple of attempts...it sorta rises and falls as a function of the amount of yeast that you use...

 

using leftovers for toppings per notmyself advice is brilliant, no need to contort to find suitable ones, pepperoni, etc...pizza toppings are only limited by yer imagination...

 

 

Edited August 8, 20178 yr by tutsiwarrior

12 minutes ago, notmyself said:

 

Sorry, mentioned some pages back that I was in the UK and figured is was OK to continue to post since I spend most of my time on Samui and what I'm eating is things I miss when in Thailand. Tenuous argument but got away with it so far.

 

I've not found frozen pizza dough in Thailand but then I've never really looked for it. Creating various dishes for my sister and her family while I'm here and figured pizza early in the week because it can use up leftovers kept from the weekend. Cheap meal. Unroll the base which is rolled in grease and oven proof paper and it's about 16"x10". Good product.

 

If you need pizza dough then maybe go to the nearest pizza joint, buy some balls from them and freeze them. Dough freezes well but you don't want to leave it too long. Couple of weeks or so the bonds start to break down so in the end it would be like shortcrust pastry. It should also be noted that you can keep dough for quite some time in a sealed cool environment. I'll stop now as there a lot of better bread makers on this thread.

 

Yea, we are pretty fortunate down here on Samui as far as farang foods are concerned. Got a smokehouse up the road a bit... Couple of Russian fellas with their wives and they put out some seriously good stuff. We also have seafood which is both abundant and cheap though ultimately you pay extra elsewhere such as the cost of living here. I've friends up in the deepest darkest parts of Isan who live just as well as myself at half the price.... better even. We got two Makro, two Tescolotus and a Big C and wherever you are on the island, one of them is going to be maximum 30 minutes away.

 

Good thread this and is indicative of what people are willing to go through to get the taste they really want.

 

I make pizza dough myself, but to do it right it takes time and if there is a good frozen one available I would like to try it a pizza is usually a last minute type meal.

 

As far as Samui is concerned, I lived there from 1997 to 2003 and had a bar on Soi Green Mango.  The road through Chaweng beach was dirt then and Charlies' huts were 100 baht per night when I first got there.  The closest Big C was in Surathanni.  When I left in 2003 they had built the Tesco in Chaweng but haven't been back since. I lived in the apartment house directly behind the SCB bank on Chaweng Beach road and "pot" was available at any of the motorbike rental places on the island, although I never bought any other than for medicinal purposes!

the crew bus stops at the landing of the logging show high in the Oregon Cascade mountains at the break of day and rough men hawk and spit and pull on their heavy caulked boots in preparation for another day of hard and dangerous labor...

 

and then the hook tender extracts a slice of cold pizza from his lunch box from a pizza restaurant in town called the 'Shrimp Boat' to eat fer his breakfast...and the rough men then hurl themselves away retching wretchedly as the sight and smell of a shrimp pizza slice early in the morning was too much to bear...

 

 

Edited August 8, 20178 yr by tutsiwarrior

14 minutes ago, wayned said:

I make pizza dough myself, but to do it right it takes time and if there is a good frozen one available I would like to try it a pizza is usually a last minute type meal.

 

 

Gotta make it yourself and then keep it cool like this stuff from ASDA which is not sold frozen but can be frozen for a short time. Problem here is that freezing it reduces the longevity of the dough so what's the point.

12 hours ago, tutsiwarrior said:

 

I've always seen plenty of cukes around but never seen any zucchini outside of western friendly supermarkets...where did ye get yours? grown locally?

 

the big cukes are good with homade natural yogurt in a tzatziki, easy to make and good to have on hand in the fridge...just got sum today...

 

there's soooo much stuff that y'can make with zucchini (courgettes), excellent in stir fries, zucchini bread, etc...a very versatile veg...

 

 

Yes...very versatile veg indeed. Mom used to make wonderful zucchini bread.

 

As to where we got the zuch...you guessed it...Tesco/Lotus.

8 hours ago, tutsiwarrior said:

the crew bus stops at the landing of the logging show high in the Oregon Cascade mountains at the break of day and rough men hawk and spit and pull on their heavy caulked boots in preparation for another day of hard and dangerous labor...

 

and then the hook tender extracts a slice of cold pizza from his lunch box from a pizza restaurant in town called the 'Shrimp Boat' to eat fer his breakfast...and the rough men then hurl themselves away retching wretchedly as the sight and smell of a shrimp pizza slice early in the morning was too much to bear...

 

 

Whimps, we used to buy two donner kebabs on the way back from site, trying to make last orders. Eat one on the way and keep one for 5am breakfast the next morning. Pipeliners.....

6 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Yes...very versatile veg indeed. Mom used to make wonderful zucchini bread.

 

As to where we got the zuch...you guessed it...Tesco/Lotus.

 

I give up...some folks must live inna parallel thai universe...never inna million years would my local tescos have zucchini...not even at the big tescos at the changwat...

 

 

7 minutes ago, tutsiwarrior said:

 

I give up...some folks must live inna parallel thai universe...never inna million years would my local tescos have zucchini...not even at the big tescos at the changwat...

 

 

Haha...well being the token vegan, most here already place me in a BIZARRE-O universe! 

 

Tesco/"Rot-DOT" On Nut! Found it there on multiple occasions. May have been in the organic section, but not sure 'bout that.

 
Gotta make it yourself and then keep it cool like this stuff from ASDA which is not sold frozen but can be frozen for a short time. Problem here is that freezing it reduces the longevity of the dough so what's the point.

Freeze it raw in a ball and it will last a long time. Thaw, roll it out ad bake.

13 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

Freeze it raw in a ball and it will last a long time. Thaw, roll it out ad bake.

 

 

OK...a bit off topic: I was reading one of them Trump related topics, and there was mention of his balls (or lack of). Obviously clicked on a wrong notification and the post above seemed to be a continuation of that discussion.

20 minutes ago, mogandave said:

 

 

Freeze it raw in a ball and it will last a long time. Thaw, roll it out ad bake.

 

 

The freezing process trashes the yeast and it also breaks the gluten bonds that give bread its viscoelasticity which is why I mentioned earlier that over time it turns into something like shortcrust pastry. Still fine to eat though the result is more akin to a biscuit texture which is why the product (ASDA pizza base) is sold chilled rather than frozen. It's interesting to note that the issue with the yeast getting trashed only really matters when the dough is going to be used for a loaf or for rolls but this can be offset a little by doubling the amount of yeast and using dry active rather than fast acting yeast. That being said... I'm certainly no expert in bread making as such but in the storage of foodstuffs including dough for the food industry.

a long time ago I useta deliver pizzas...one place made the crust from scratch (big machine, just add ingredients et viola) and the other had the prepackaged kind...and I tried both and the former was OK, the latter was pretty bad and I couldn't understand how they could sell them...the prepackaged was not frozen and kept in the walk in fridge, they sold ribs and fried chicken as well, the other folks were exclusively pizzas; 'Pizza Man, he delivers', NYC style thin crust...

 

watched the Apollo 11 moon landing that summer at Pizza Man between deliveries...they had a TV...

 

 

Edited August 9, 20178 yr by tutsiwarrior

 
The freezing process trashes the yeast and it also breaks the gluten bonds that give bread its viscoelasticity which is why I mentioned earlier that over time it turns into something like shortcrust pastry. Still fine to eat though the result is more akin to a biscuit texture which is why the product (ASDA pizza base) is sold chilled rather than frozen. It's interesting to note that the issue with the yeast getting trashed only really matters when the dough is going to be used for a loaf or for rolls but this can be offset a little by doubling the amount of yeast and using dry active rather than fast acting yeast. That being said... I'm certainly no expert in bread making as such but in the storage of foodstuffs including dough for the food industry.

My mom had a big mixer and used to freeze bread and pie dough pretty often.

a long time ago I useta deliver pizzas...one place made the crust from scratch (big machine, just add ingredients et viola) and the other had the prepackaged kind...and I tried both and the former was OK, the latter was pretty bad and I couldn't understand how they could sell them...the prepackaged was not frozen and kept in the walk in fridge, they sold ribs and fried chicken as well, the other folks were exclusively pizzas; 'Pizza Man, he delivers', NYC style thin crust...
 
watched the Apollo 11 moon landing that summer at Pizza Man between deliveries...they had a TV...
 
 

I made pizza at a drive in theatre when I was a kid. We used pre-fab crust. It was crap.

When I thought someone was an a-hole I would only pretend to cut it...

Terrible bit of gammon from the local independent butcher it turned out. Need a good fatty piece for a traditional boiled bacon, cabbage and potato dinner but that is just taking the p1ss. Scousers.

 

Ill get back on that traditional stuff, been eatin al that healthy crap for nearly a year, never felt so bloody miserable.


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did this today:

 

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/aug/11/alumni-recipes-sam-clark-chef-jonathan-jones-jacob-kenedy-april-bloomfield

 

see 'braised aubergines with potatoes' at the end of the article...

 

quite nice, used the local phallic green aubergines, sliced rather than cubed...all other ingredients available locally up here in the sticks except for the red pepper and the marjoram...could maybe doctor it up with some dried italian spices if ye got them on hand; oregano, basil, etc...either brought back from the 'old country' when on holiday or bought at the supermarket when in BKK...

 

never thought of mixin' eggplant with tatties before...and check out the sauce procedure and ingredients, could maybe be used for general purposes like pizza, pasta, etc., suitably doctored per above...looks like it may be a good'un reheated after overnight in the fridge...

 

if ye mess with the aubergine/potato ratio could maybe be presented as a potato salad with braised aubergines and homade tomato sauce dressing...

 

ye gotta check out them online and newspaper recipes fer loadsa good ideas especially when dealin' with limited resources like up here in the sticks; omit, substitute, etc...

 

there is a world of goodness outside of tuna sandwiches and instant noodles...

 

 

Edited August 13, 20178 yr by tutsiwarrior

Last night i was so pissed of with Healthy. Food we went forHappy Comfort stuff. Fillet Pepercorn.


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The Pizza Company are doing a deal, sign up for a 2 for the price of one deal for 399 baht.
You can sign up and use it straight away, valid for 6 months.
A medium pan pizza is 379 baht anyway so the signing up fee pays for itself ( well almost ).

Only bummer is doesn't apply on delivery orders, which is a big mistake IMO.

So if you live near a Pizza Company, like I do.
Like pizza, like I do.
Are a greedy git, like I am.

Worth it !

Yeah, that's been on for a few years. I take a few pies to the office every now and then and it pays for itself pretty fast.

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IMO Pizza Hut is far and away superior to P-C and always have buy 1 medium B199...get 1 B99 and will deliver for B40. Better pizza at a better price...delivered! 

Edited August 15, 20178 yr by Skeptic7

4 hours ago, Andrew Dwyer said:

The Pizza Company are doing a deal, sign up for a 2 for the price of one deal for 399 baht.
You can sign up and use it straight away, valid for 6 months.
A medium pan pizza is 379 baht anyway so the signing up fee pays for itself ( well almost ).

Only bummer is doesn't apply on delivery orders, which is a big mistake IMO.

So if you live near a Pizza Company, like I do.
Like pizza, like I do.
Are a greedy git, like I am.

Worth it !

 

the Pizza Company is the best reason I know fer makin' yer own...we got one 30km up the road from where we live and I never thought that there was a pizza that I couldn't eat but there it was...OK if yer gonna feed it to the locals 'cause they don't know no better...

 

I feed my pizza to the grandkids and they enthusiastically partake...the question is; do they like mine better than the Pizza Company? ain't got enough to feed the adults as I eat the rest meself...besides, the grandkids' mother, my step daughter won't allow that anything that I make tastes good on anti - tutsi falang food principles...an absurd bias, feigns barfing, etc...

 

but the wife likes my pork masaman (from a Lobo packet)...

 

 

 

Edited August 15, 20178 yr by tutsiwarrior

On 8/4/2017 at 7:38 PM, Naam said:

an off topic but food related question. has anybody ever experienced what i presently experience? after spending a week in Germany, hogging delicate thinks from dawn to midnight but cursing myself because i forgot to take a huge portion of prikh nam pla with me i suddenly can't ingest hot spices without my mouth burning like fire for up to half an hour. it somehow happened overnight. at a stopover in Dubai i had in the lounge a big portion of Gulf shrimps with a bottle of Tabasco, 24 hours later i couldn't finish a moderately spiced portion of lamb vindaloo and another day later normal black pepper exploded in my mouth.

Hey Naam! You still with us? 

 

As strange as I initially thought your unfortunate spicy food situation was, lo and behold...my Thai GF is experiencing something similar, though not as severe.

 

She recently had some dental work done and had to eat only soft, bland foods for a week. Now she is starting to eat normally again, but cannot tolerate even the slightest bit of prik, nor anything spicy hot. Of course she finds this highly distressing and unacceptable. I can certainty empathize more now, as we like our food nuclear and she is just not able to tolerate it. She just glares at me as I shovel on the various chillies and hot stuff! 

8 hours ago, tutsiwarrior said:

 

the Pizza Company is the best reason I know fer makin' yer own...we got one 30km up the road from where we live and I never thought that there was a pizza that I couldn't eat but there it was...OK if yer gonna feed it to the locals 'cause they don't know no better...

 

 

Local know better Tusti. I get it all the time if I go into town, ladies saying they are hungry and turn their noses up at 7-11 instant noodles when I offer it.

 

Rather than write a he said she said I'll just write and let other figure it out.......

 

I'm hungry Johnno. Eat something. No money. You want money for go buy noodles 7-11? We want pizza. We? You said YOU were hungry. My friend is hungry too. What you want (as in what on the pizza). Pizza Boy. Pizza Boy is a vendor who do pizzas almost exclusively for the girlie bar market and is only 230 Baht or so. Would have got it from Tropicano just down the road at maybe 400 but they prefer Pizza Boy.

 

My latest from last week I think.

 

 

Was going to have pizza again tomorrow (dam n my extended family like pizza) but I got some fresh cod off of a fishing boat who was waiting for them to raise the bridge to sail through to dock. They raise it for anything big but little boats, which are not actually that little, have to wait and shoot through with them. River Mersey leads out into the Irish sea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

12 hours ago, Skeptic7 said:

Hey Naam! You still with us? 

 

As strange as I initially thought your unfortunate spicy food situation was, lo and behold...my Thai GF is experiencing something similar, though not as severe.

 

She recently had some dental work done and had to eat only soft, bland foods for a week. Now she is starting to eat normally again, but cannot tolerate even the slightest bit of prik, nor anything spicy hot. Of course she finds this highly distressing and unacceptable. I can certainty empathize more now, as we like our food nuclear and she is just not able to tolerate it. She just glares at me as I shovel on the various chillies and hot stuff! 

yes Skeptic, i am still kicking, increasing daily my input of hot spices and that with success meaning my mouth and especially my tongue can tolerate more and more. initially i had to force myself but not any more. i guess i am back to "normal" in a week or two.

 

important! i also had some dental work done (eight implants) but that was three months ago. the problem started much later. however, dental work is listed as one of the culprits when googling "hot spice intolerance". 

Technically speaking, this is food too, no?

 

1 hour ago, Naam said:

yes Skeptic, i am still kicking, increasing daily my input of hot spices and that with success meaning my mouth and especially my tongue can tolerate more and more. initially i had to force myself but not any more. i guess i am back to "normal" in a week or two.

 

important! i also had some dental work done (eight implants) but that was three months ago. the problem started much later. however, dental work is listed as one of the culprits when googling "hot spice intolerance". 

Hahaha You guys worried about hot food effects on your mouth.. For me, I find hot food probs at the other end more concerning 

3 hours ago, Pdaz said:

Hahaha You guys worried about hot food effects on your mouth.. For me, I find hot food probs at the other end more concerning 

never any problems at the lower rear end but once in a while when overdoing it, especially after using Sudanese chillies a friend sends from Eritrea, my pecker burns when peeing.

8 hours ago, notmyself said:

 

Local know better Tusti. I get it all the time if I go into town, ladies saying they are hungry and turn their noses up at 7-11 instant noodles when I offer it.

 

Rather than write a he said she said I'll just write and let other figure it out.......

 

I'm hungry Johnno. Eat something. No money. You want money for go buy noodles 7-11? We want pizza. We? You said YOU were hungry. My friend is hungry too. What you want (as in what on the pizza). Pizza Boy. Pizza Boy is a vendor who do pizzas almost exclusively for the girlie bar market and is only 230 Baht or so. Would have got it from Tropicano just down the road at maybe 400 but they prefer Pizza Boy.

 

My latest from last week I think.

 

 

Was going to have pizza again tomorrow (dam n my extended family like pizza) but I got some fresh cod off of a fishing boat who was waiting for them to raise the bridge to sail through to dock. They raise it for anything big but little boats, which are not actually that little, have to wait and shoot through with them. River Mersey leads out into the Irish sea.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

that pizza looks mighty fine...too bad there ain't a 'Pizza Boy' around here but we ain't got no girly bars to provide a clientele...matter of fack we ain't got no bars at all...