So you're too fat for a Business Class Seat! What next?

[Rob8891]

Flying back to LOS from the UK three years ago, we (my wife and I) got hammered at check-in for our luggage being overweight...She is 48kgs and I'm 83kgs. Our bags and carry-on luggage came to 80kgs, whereas they should not have exceeded a total of 74kgs (2 x 30 + 7). We were told we had a choice of paying a hefty excess, or dumping some of our belongings.

Our total weight (pax & all luggage) came to 45+83+80...208kgs, for which I had paid two airfares. How can it be right for one obese passenger, as described in previous posts, to roll up to the plane, weighing more than my wife and I combined, and yet pay one standard airfare? Even including our luggage, we probably still weighed less than some passengers, and we were expected to pay an excess. That is plainly nonsensical.

On top of that, there is the safety aspect, should there be the need for a rapid evacuation. In the photo posted earlier, the obese laddie was spilling across half the aisle. Clearly that plane was not going to take off like that, but had there been an emergency, even wedged into a double seat, he would have been a major obstacle for all the other passengers....What can airlines do to resolve that issue?

[bamukloy]

I reckon they should make people stand on the luggage belt with their luggage.

They could allow a combined weight of the usual baggage allowance, plus the average weight of someone mildly obese, anything over that they should pay extra.

It would be nice if the rest of us with a mediocum of self control could carry an extra 15+ of luggage..that these prix carry on their guts and <deleted>.

[sipi]

But paying extra doesn compensate for someone getting squashed sitting next to one of these.

They need their own section where they can spread over each other.

[Rob8891]

As air travel becomes more accessible, and as obesity becomes more common, it seems pretty clear that airlines will have to take individuals' weight into account when pricing tickets. It could also mean that many passengers of more modest girth might even be eligible for a greater luggage allowance.

OK, you keyboard warriors. Put down those fries! On the floor and give me fifty... I want to see those waistlines shrinking.... ??

Rats! Bamukloy beat me to the post with some of this point. Agree 100% with you.

Edited July 24, 2016 by Rob8891

[bamukloy]

I reckon they should make people stand on the luggage belt with their luggage.

They could allow a combined weight of the usual baggage allowance, plus the average weight of someone mildly obese, anything over that they should pay extra.

It would be nice if the rest of us with a mediocum of self control could carry an extra 20+kgs in our luggage allowance...

the extra weight that these fat pr!cks think nothing nothing of burdening everyone else with their fat guts and <deleted>.

if you think about they are getting away with an extra piece of luggage and also making a shit trip for those sitting next to them.

disgusting any way you think of it!

[neverdie]

I reckon they should make people stand on the luggage belt with their luggage.

They could allow a combined weight of the usual baggage allowance, plus the average weight of someone mildly obese, anything over that they should pay extra.

It would be nice if the rest of us with a mediocum of self control could carry an extra 20+kgs in our luggage allowance...

the extra weight that these fat pr!cks think nothing nothing of burdening everyone else with their fat guts and <deleted>.

if you think about they are getting away with an extra piece of luggage and also making a shit trip for those sitting next to them.

disgusting any way you think of it!

That's right sir, well said, DISGUSTING.

and if you wernt careful theyd eat from your food tray if you looked away for a moment 5555

[balo]

I'm on a flight to khon khaen from bkk about 3 months big fat boatyard arrives at aisle first thing this sweat machine does is chuck the seat belt toward me so he avoids sitting on it. Big sweaty penfold looking German guy. Anyway I maintain my usual calm self throughout the flight. 15 mins before landing the coffees arriving he sees he scores this guy makes a lunge towards the coffee in Olympic finnish fashion. Does he grab the coffee, no. the sugar, no. the creamer, no he grabs every single spoon off the stewardesses tray like he has a right to them. The steward, mrs and myself are looking at each other unsure what the hell is going on. Anyone seen this guy in action?

Did you have a good look at him , I think his name is Petter Griffin

[neverdie]

I saw a bloke on one flight, guts were huge, look like he'd swallowed the Goodyear blimp, frightening and there was a poor lady squished in the window seat next to him.....I was watching her in case she started to turn blue!

[neverdie]

I'm on a flight to khon khaen from bkk about 3 months big fat boatyard arrives at aisle first thing this sweat machine does is chuck the seat belt toward me so he avoids sitting on it. Big sweaty penfold looking German guy. Anyway I maintain my usual calm self throughout the flight. 15 mins before landing the coffees arriving he sees he scores this guy makes a lunge towards the coffee in Olympic finnish fashion. Does he grab the coffee, no. the sugar, no. the creamer, no he grabs every single spoon off the stewardesses tray like he has a right to them. The steward, mrs and myself are looking at each other unsure what the hell is going on. Anyone seen this guy in action?

Did you have a good look at him , I think his name is Petter Griffin

I'm not familiar with the name peter but he has a striking resembelance to another guy I've seen somewhere.

[bamukloy]

I reckon they should make people stand on the luggage belt with their luggage.

They could allow a combined weight of the usual baggage allowance, plus the average weight of someone mildly obese, anything over that they should pay extra.

It would be nice if the rest of us with a mediocum of self control could carry an extra 20+kgs in our luggage allowance...

the extra weight that these fat pr!cks think nothing nothing of burdening everyone else with their fat guts and <deleted>.

if you think about they are getting away with an extra piece of luggage and also making a shit trip for those sitting next to them.

disgusting any way you think of it!

That's right sir, well said, DISGUSTING.

and if you wernt careful theyd eat from your food tray if you looked away for a moment 5555

To right. But what really piddles me off is when these fat fuggers flay their fat flabby forearms all over the armrests.. on BOTH sides

And the poor phricks on either side are forced to squash themselves in like frikkrn sardines.

[neverdie]

I reckon they should make people stand on the luggage belt with their luggage.

They could allow a combined weight of the usual baggage allowance, plus the average weight of someone mildly obese, anything over that they should pay extra.

It would be nice if the rest of us with a mediocum of self control could carry an extra 20+kgs in our luggage allowance...

the extra weight that these fat pr!cks think nothing nothing of burdening everyone else with their fat guts and <deleted>.

if you think about they are getting away with an extra piece of luggage and also making a shit trip for those sitting next to them.

disgusting any way you think of it!

That's right sir, well said, DISGUSTING.

and if you wernt careful theyd eat from your food tray if you looked away for a moment 5555

To right. But what really piddles me off is when these fat fuggers flay their fat flabby forearms all over the armrests.. on BOTH sides

And the poor phricks on either side are forced to squash themselves in like frikkrn sardines.

That's it, Tis wrong. These smelly sweaty Oafes don't give it a second thought. That's the annoying part.

[neverdie]

This short video clip shows what happens when heavy loads shift on aircraft

https://youtu.be/tGnSYiXv8hE

[pgrahmm]

It was a smooth flight until that fat guy had gas....

[neverdie]

Here's another footage of the crash with a simulation.

Load shift

https://youtu.be/kdE186SVfPU

[neverdie]

Here's CASA advice on average passenger details

https://www.casa.gov.au/file/104861/download?token=E70-zaqD

[neverdie]

Read this article.....written by fatty.

Please complete VOTE too

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/being-the-fat-person-on-a-plane/

Edited July 24, 2016 by neverdie

[Scott]

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[sipi]

Charging extra for these wonderful challenged passengers won't help with the comfort of other passengers.

[Fabricus]

But paying extra doesn compensate for someone getting squashed sitting next to one of these.

They need their own section where they can spread over each other.

That's well observed.

Sitting next to these excessively overweight people is not only traumatic, it's physically disturbing and intrusive.

Very soon all major airlines will need to address this issue since obesity has now reached epidemic levels in several western countries.

[phrodan]

I agree that the morbidly obese should be seated in areas where they reduce access and evacuation difficulties. It's also a great idea to supply larger seats in economy, at a fair premium.

However, as a Business Class passenger I'm not bothered as to what goes on in cattle class. One of the benefits of wealth is that you rise above such mundane issues.

[phrodan]

I agree that the morbidly obese should be seated in areas where they reduce access and evacuation difficulties. It's also a great idea to supply larger seats in economy, at a fair premium.

However, as a Business Class passenger I'm not bothered as to what goes on in cattle class. One of the benefits of wealth is that you rise above such mundane issues.

Sorry, please re-read the thread title and see the thread was about Business class.

The give away is, "So you're too fat for a business class seat! What next?"

Like yourself, I travel Business, not because I'm too fat for economy but because I can't stand the way the economy animals behave and being forced to sit next to so many uncouth folk.

Of course paying a premium for Business I don't really want to be seated next to some human walrus sized person who possibly still wobbles over into my space or worse still tries to slide their 300 pound backside through the aisle near me putting me of my cheese plate or worse still trying to steal my cheese plate!

Anyhoooo, your idea of fat seats for business class too is a great idea, as long as it's behind and separated from the other cabin and the PAX in there are suitably restrained in the event of an emergency. I fear the forward emergency exits are blocked and I'm forced to flee through the economy door.

I doubt you have flown Business Class in the recent past. If you had, you wouldn't post such rubbish.

Business Class travelers now have effectively individual pods, so while you may sit near an obese person, you will never, ever sit next to one.

[pgrahmm]

It hasn't been made any better by the seat downsizing either, as they try & cram more revenue into a defined & confined space....

[Fabricus]

@Neverdie

Many operators servicing long haul routes do offer "pod-style" seats.

For example:

On "local" routes (Hat Yai to KL or BKK, for example) this style of seating isn't available and morbidly obese passengers are a problem, whether in economy or business class.

[Rob8891]

I was in the business section of a 777 a couple of months ago, and was surprised at how cramped it seemed, still, one never refused a free upgrade.

[neverdie]

@Neverdie

Many operators servicing long haul routes do offer "pod-style" seats.

For example:

On "local" routes (Hat Yai to KL or BKK, for example) this style of seating isn't available and morbidly obese passengers are a problem, whether in economy or business class.

Yeah, I realise this, although I normally fly ek and it's nicer than that but again it depends where you are going and with who, aircraft type etc.

So of those pods would be a tight squeeze for some folk

[neverdie]

Anyway, Airlines need to address the issue and I urge folk to write to their airlines, respectively.

[manfredtillmann]

to get back to your original questions:

i believe very fat people present a health and safety risk that neither airlines nor fellow passengers should be forced to have to put up with. in other words, morbidly obese people should be banned from flying commercial airlines.

as a large frame passenger (190cm / 6'3", 100kg ) i am fully aware of the impact i have on the space available in planes. if i fly 'nok' (there is no business class), i can't sit 'isle' as my shoulders obstruct the passing of the trolley.

so for the passenger pictured earlier: he is a safety risk and should have never been allowed on board. he will not fit through the over-wing emergency exit and if he tried and got stuck, he would reduce the survival chances for less self - indulgent passengers in his section by 1/4.

business class seats on thai's 747/400 series from syd to bkk are still the old 2 / 2 configurations. there is no escaping from your neighbor.

i have spent plenty of flights next to bare - shouldered, overpaid fifo workers going for their 4 weekly sex excursion to thailand, drinking 13 bacardi coke before dinner, sweating from their fat, sun - starved tattooed bodies and chewing my ear off with their uneducated bulls##t wisdoms.

the fact that i paid 4 times more for my passage than the people traveling only 40 m behind me was totally meaning less.

i still had to put up with everything that was unpleasant about these guys and to force fatties to fly business will only lead to people like me not fly business anymore.

given how many grotesquely overweight people are allowed to exist these days, perhaps richard branson should start a new airline catering for these people.

call it: 'fat virgin' or 'ex- virgin' or something.

and than i can make sure i don't fly with them...

[neverdie]

to get back to your original questions:

i believe very fat people present a health and safety risk that neither airlines nor fellow passengers should be forced to have to put up with. in other words, morbidly obese people should be banned from flying commercial airlines.

as a large frame passenger (190cm / 6'3", 100kg ) i am fully aware of the impact i have on the space available in planes. if i fly 'nok' (there is no business class), i can't sit 'isle' as my shoulders obstruct the passing of the trolley.

so for the passenger pictured earlier: he is a safety risk and should have never been allowed on board. he will not fit through the over-wing emergency exit and if he tried and got stuck, he would reduce the survival chances for less self - indulgent passengers in his section by 1/4.

business class seats on thai's 747/400 series from syd to bkk are still the old 2 / 2 configurations. there is no escaping from your neighbor.

i have spent plenty of flights next to bare - shouldered, overpaid fifo workers going for their 4 weekly sex excursion to thailand, drinking 13 bacardi coke before dinner, sweating from their fat, sun - starved tattooed bodies and chewing my ear off with their uneducated bulls##t wisdoms.

the fact that i paid 4 times more for my passage than the people traveling only 40 m behind me was totally meaning less.

i still had to put up with everything that was unpleasant about these guys and to force fatties to fly business will only lead to people like me not fly business anymore.

given how many grotesquely overweight people are allowed to exist these days, perhaps richard branson should start a new airline catering for these people.

call it: 'fat virgin' or 'ex- virgin' or something.

and than i can make sure i don't fly with them...

You nailed that thread old fella, well done !

When I seefolk like you describe, I feel they have no respect for themselves, why should I show them any.

Gross.

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