Merkel and the days of terror

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Merkel and the days of terror
Gavin Hewitt
Chief correspondent

BERLIN: -- The decision to accept more than a million refugees was Angela Merkel's biggest political gamble.

At first, she was widely applauded for her moral courage and leadership.

She told the German people: "We can handle this," and there was a certain pride in German hospitality, in seeing citizens chant at Frankfurt railway station: "Say it loud, and say it clear, 'Refugees are welcome here.'"

For the German chancellor, the refugee crisis underlined that "the heart and soul of Europe is tolerance".

Doubts about her policy surfaced earlier this year, particularly after young women in Cologne were allegedly assaulted by groups of largely foreign men on New Year's Eve.

Full story: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36893867


-- BBC 2016-07-27

[OMGImInPattaya]

I wonder what it feels like knowing you'll likely go down in history as a leader who did as much damage to her nation as the likes of Hitlerr, Stalin, and Mao did to their's?

[mercman24]

this stupid woman is utterly clueless, too late now silly lady they are in germany amongst you. invited by you, noone else. a lot of these so called immigrants are not mis - placed persons, just in europe for the easy ride

[manfredtillmann]

I wonder what it feels like knowing you'll likely go down in history as a leader who did as much damage to her nation as the likes of Hitlerr, Stalin, and Mao did to their's?

your post shows that, just like your avatar, you are a very uneducated person.

[manfredtillmann]

this stupid woman is utterly clueless, too late now silly lady they are in germany amongst you. invited by you, noone else. a lot of these so called immigrants are not mis - placed persons, just in europe for the easy ride

...and your post does exactly the same as the one posted by 'omg...'

these first two posts sum up just about everything that is so totally wrong about this world.

and shows up why people like trump, le pen and wilders - and in the past hitler - have come to power.

[mesterm]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

[colinneil]

Merkel is to blame for all the troubles bombings/shootings/ stabbings.

Brain dead woman, welcome welcome all you islamists.

Too late now, whatever was she thinking?

Now German women cannot walk alone in their own country, what a sad state of affairs.

[manfredtillmann]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

[mesterm]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

How I wish our future was 'together'.

Yet this is what Muslims in the UK think after so many decades of being 'together':

"Nearly a quarter (23%) supported the introduction of sharia law in some areas of Britain, and 39% agreed that “wives should always obey their husbands. Nearly a third (31%) thought it was acceptable for a British Muslim man to have more than one wife. 52% agreed that homosexuality should be illegal."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

I don't believe the numbers are very different in Germany either.

[halloween]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

Ohhh, isn't that sweet! The problem is those persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people are killing those who offered them help. Not all mind, others limit themselves to robbery, rape and sexual assault. Not quite the grateful guests that Merkel expected.

[MissAndry]

I wonder what it feels like knowing you'll likely go down in history as a leader who did as much damage to her nation as the likes of Hitlerr, Stalin, and Mao did to their's?

your post shows that, just like your avatar, you are a very uneducated person.

If you aren't part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

Forget the stones, can I have a gun?

Edited July 27, 2016 by MissAndry

[Dagnabbit]

this stupid woman is utterly clueless, too late now silly lady they are in germany amongst you. invited by you, noone else. a lot of these so called immigrants are not mis - placed persons, just in europe for the easy ride

...and your post does exactly the same as the one posted by 'omg...'

these first two posts sum up just about everything that is so totally wrong about this world.

and shows up why people like trump, le pen and wilders - and in the past hitler - have come to power.

Not at all.

These posts are reflective of some realities.

In Germany and much of Europe, we have a system where we work and contribute in the form of taxes. Those taxes help to maintain our country and they also form a social safety net. People never voted for their money to be spent on people that never contributed to the system. This isn't selfish. It's also not altruistic.

Economically speaking, our political leaders are fearful of a declining population because these social safety nets will run out of money in a declining, aging population. Also - they are lobbied by businesses who need growth to increase their share prices and enrich their shareholders. The solution of importing people from a different culture is not working out very well. But more than that, we should find solutions to a declining population because in the end there are simply too many people on the planet and perpetual growth is impossible.

On top of this, In much of the Middle East, sectarian violence is tearing societies apart. Violence is the norm. The 'immigrants' were not families, it was single men. Many of whom have grown up to hate the West, have no sexual outlet and no prospects of ever finding fulfilling work.

It is a recipe for disaster and it will lead to more bloodshed.

Your post sums up everything about people that think there is an endless supply of resources on the planet and that just mixing up disparate cultures will have a happy ending. Multiculturalism has failed everywhere it's been tried. More of the same is not the answer. There is nothing wrong with the cultures of Europe at all.

[Dagnabbit]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

Merkel does not have an attitude of compassion. She has an aging and declining population and pressure from business and her own tax policies to force growth at all costs.

As for being "against" - who's doing all the raping and killing?

Are people not allowed to call for their own defense? Has defense become the new offense?

[mesterm]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

Merkel does not have an attitude of compassion. She has an aging and declining population and pressure from business and her own tax policies to force growth at all costs.

As for being "against" - who's doing all the raping and killing?

Are people not allowed to call for their own defense? Has defense become the new offense?

Let's all convert to Islam for world peace. They would not have it any other way.

[MissAndry]

Let's all convert to Islam for world peace. They would not have it any other way.

Sunni or Shi'ite?

[JetsetBkk]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

Wake up, Tillman.

[MobileContent]

Let's all convert to Islam for world peace. They would not have it any other way.

Sunni or Shi'ite?

My only option would be Sufi.

Great open minded Muslims but sadly prosecuted by the fanatics

[Grouse]

To compare Merkel to Hitler or Stalin would be amusing if were not so depressingly sad

Clearly no knowledge of history whatever.

Most of the recent atrocities were carried out home grown extremists.

Need to shut down access to Islamist web sites IMHO.

Impressionable fools are clearly brainwashed by ISAS (or Saladin!).

It is RIGHT to allow in asylum seekers and, IF they achieve refugee status fine. In the meantime, they should be held awaiting assessment and if they fail, they should be shipped back immediately.

AS you know, I am anti muslim for many reasons. However, I would just make life here less comfortable for them.

I'm not calling for Kristallnacht or anything like that but just shut down some of the special freedoms granted such as halal butchery, wearing muslim dress, religious schools etc etc.

However, it is difficult to maintain the civilised life we have and at the same time have such security measures which seem now to be required!

Frankly, so much CCTV feels a little uncomfortable. If we need a gestapo and have our papers inspected all the time, count me out!

Edited July 27, 2016 by Grouse

[manfredtillmann]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

How I wish our future was 'together'.

Yet this is what Muslims in the UK think after so many decades of being 'together':

"Nearly a quarter (23%) supported the introduction of sharia law in some areas of Britain, and 39% agreed that “wives should always obey their husbands. Nearly a third (31%) thought it was acceptable for a British Muslim man to have more than one wife. 52% agreed that homosexuality should be illegal."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/11/british-muslims-strong-sense-of-belonging-poll-homosexuality-sharia-law

I don't believe the numbers are very different in Germany either.

and which one of these issues do you have an issue with?

[manfredtillmann]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

Merkel does not have an attitude of compassion. She has an aging and declining population and pressure from business and her own tax policies to force growth at all costs.

As for being "against" - who's doing all the raping and killing?

Are people not allowed to call for their own defense? Has defense become the new offense?

Let's all convert to Islam for world peace. They would not have it any other way.

as did the catholic church only a few centuries ago - and they almost succeeded. but just wiped out a few civilizations in the process.

who is doing all the 'raping and killing'?

[RickBradford]

DNFTT ^^^

[canuckamuck]

Merkel is just doing her job. Which is to aid in the destabilization of western civilization in order to create a crisis at the level of WW3. Then we will all be desperate to accept the NWO as a solution to the chaos.

No more national sovereignty. A global police force. And a ruling class of uber elites controlling media, education, and industry.

The best way to tear down a society based on tolerance and individuality. Import intolerance and hardcore civil codes. Islam is just the right pill.

[manfredtillmann]

this stupid woman is utterly clueless, too late now silly lady they are in germany amongst you. invited by you, noone else. a lot of these so called immigrants are not mis - placed persons, just in europe for the easy ride

...and your post does exactly the same as the one posted by 'omg...'

these first two posts sum up just about everything that is so totally wrong about this world.

and shows up why people like trump, le pen and wilders - and in the past hitler - have come to power.

Not at all.

These posts are reflective of some realities.

In Germany and much of Europe, we have a system where we work and contribute in the form of taxes. Those taxes help to maintain our country and they also form a social safety net. People never voted for their money to be spent on people that never contributed to the system. This isn't selfish. It's also not altruistic.

Economically speaking, our political leaders are fearful of a declining population because these social safety nets will run out of money in a declining, aging population. Also - they are lobbied by businesses who need growth to increase their share prices and enrich their shareholders. The solution of importing people from a different culture is not working out very well. But more than that, we should find solutions to a declining population because in the end there are simply too many people on the planet and perpetual growth is impossible.

On top of this, In much of the Middle East, sectarian violence is tearing societies apart. Violence is the norm. The 'immigrants' were not families, it was single men. Many of whom have grown up to hate the West, have no sexual outlet and no prospects of ever finding fulfilling work.

It is a recipe for disaster and it will lead to more bloodshed.

Your post sums up everything about people that think there is an endless supply of resources on the planet and that just mixing up disparate cultures will have a happy ending. Multiculturalism has failed everywhere it's been tried. More of the same is not the answer. There is nothing wrong with the cultures of Europe at all.

from the bottom up:

australia, canada and the us have got an extremely well working multiculturalism in place.

the resource gobble is a 'western' idea and disease. if you want just one example to the contrary look at what resources are being used for civil air transport in iran.

one of the reasons why the majority of refugees are male is because they value their wifes and children enough to not expose them to the perils of i.e. crossing the mediterranean in a pair of floaties.

a very large proportion of germany's economic wealth was built on the fruits of the labor of 'gastarbeiter' (guest workers). since the 60's there would not be a single german product on the world market without it having some form of contribution from non - germans.

todays german pensions are financed, to a large extend, by these people or their off - springs. google yourself through the name of german parliament polititians and talk to me again about the failings of multiculturalism.

an aging population is a distinctly 'western society' problem brought about by western economic greed, 'christian' religions and short - sighted political and moral correctiveness.

and as for your social safety net and what people vote for that their taxes are being spend on... how many drug addicted, grotesquely over - weight, lazy, criminal interned or in some other way non - contributing people live in your country that no one ever asked you to support?

check out how many 'boat - people', vietnamese refugees, today run extremely successful business ventures in australia and employ children of their so adverse hosts.

enough for today, i know we will not solve this here and today. history will, but.

good night.

[tomacht8]

Would be nice if all people could live together peacefully.
The reality is different.
Ultimately, the strife is nothing more than the distribution fight for limited food resources on a totally overpopulated and plundered planet with the stupid race: human.

For a bit more peace Muslims could also reform their Quran.
Maybe even emphasize all the verses which call for violence, against women, other faiths or against atheists.

The glorification that if a muslim kills himself and entrains infidels to death,
and promises paradise for this act, I find it very threatening.

Historically all religions and all governments of all countries have blood on their fingers,
but this historic discussion who, why, when, stole the first goat by whom, brings nothing.

Islam is imperialistic, expands and pushes into the daily lives of many people, which are not precisely Muslims.

This is happening in Europe now.
Many native inhabitants who live peacefully for generations feel disturbed and do not want this.

This should be respected.

[MJP]

this stupid woman is utterly clueless, too late now silly lady they are in germany amongst you. invited by you, noone else. a lot of these so called immigrants are not mis - placed persons, just in europe for the easy ride

...and your post does exactly the same as the one posted by 'omg...'

these first two posts sum up just about everything that is so totally wrong about this world.

and shows up why people like trump, le pen and wilders - and in the past hitler - have come to power.

Not at all.

These posts are reflective of some realities.

In Germany and much of Europe, we have a system where we work and contribute in the form of taxes. Those taxes help to maintain our country and they also form a social safety net. People never voted for their money to be spent on people that never contributed to the system. This isn't selfish. It's also not altruistic.

Economically speaking, our political leaders are fearful of a declining population because these social safety nets will run out of money in a declining, aging population. Also - they are lobbied by businesses who need growth to increase their share prices and enrich their shareholders. The solution of importing people from a different culture is not working out very well. But more than that, we should find solutions to a declining population because in the end there are simply too many people on the planet and perpetual growth is impossible.

On top of this, In much of the Middle East, sectarian violence is tearing societies apart. Violence is the norm. The 'immigrants' were not families, it was single men. Many of whom have grown up to hate the West, have no sexual outlet and no prospects of ever finding fulfilling work.

It is a recipe for disaster and it will lead to more bloodshed.

Your post sums up everything about people that think there is an endless supply of resources on the planet and that just mixing up disparate cultures will have a happy ending. Multiculturalism has failed everywhere it's been tried. More of the same is not the answer. There is nothing wrong with the cultures of Europe at all.

Merkel says German multicultural society has failed

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11559451

This was is 2010. What changed?

[chowny77]

I say round them up and F*%k them off. No if, buts or maybe's. The west has gone too soft and are not looking out for their own people but bending over to the PC brigade and it has resulted in all these killings. Muslims will not integrate into a western society regardless of how hard you try and they will gain the upper hand in time. Look at London now, they have that dic*-head Muslim as a mayor. <deleted>, this is crazy. I give Europe 100 years before it is completely an Islam country and America about 150-200 years, unless people stand up and push the governments of each western country to do things for their citizens rather than worry about the human rights group think. Most of these people have countries to go back to so go back, it might be s%$t there but do something about it and make it better. Agent Smith in the Matrix's summed it up pretty well when he said that humans are like a disease, we move and procreate and once all the natural resources are used up we move on to another place to infect like a virus. The middle east is running out of oil, I guess this gives them a reason to move on.

[JetsetBkk]

'Nuff said.

[nontabury]

Sure, you can be tolerant all you want. But what use is it if they are not? Islam itself is not a tolerant religion at all.

merkel's attitude of compassion is totally non - related to religion. who cares which god these poor refugees believe in?

they are persecuted, displaced, impoverished and very desperate people and germany, just on the basis of it's own past, has the responsibility do assist.

merkel, as an ex - ddr resident, knows that a lot better than you seem to do.

what is your country of origin?

america? just look at the devastation of your own past: slavery, the civil war, the endless wars you were involved in, many of your own making. you guys would have lost more heads-of-state through assassination than any other country on this planet... and more soldiers through friendly fire than...

britain? what did you do to your fellow countrymen in scotland and ireland ? tolerance???

they who are blameless shall throw the first stone (or something like that). tolerance???

wake up, guys, our future is 'together', not 'against'.

Have you any idea of what your talking about. An example,what did Britain do to its fellow countrymen in Scotland?

[Ulysses G.]

I wonder what it feels like knowing you'll likely go down in history as a leader who did as much damage to her nation as the likes of Hitlerr, Stalin, and Mao did to their's?

your post shows that, just like your avatar, you are a very uneducated person.

In other words, he has dared to express an opinion that you do not agree with. Try to come up with a sensible argument, instead of hurling hateful insults.

[thaihome]

I wonder what it feels like knowing you'll likely go down in history as a leader who did as much damage to her nation as the likes of Hitlerr, Stalin, and Mao did to their's?

So 4 attacks by mentally deranged people out of 1.2 million refugees with no ties to each other that managed to kill 10 people and you are comparing her to Hitler, Stalin and Mao who oversaw the death of what, 40 million people?

You really need to step back and get a grip on yourself.

TH