snoop1130 Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Military reveals it's held 17 bombing suspects since attacks By Sasiwan Mokkhasen, Staff Reporter Officials inspect the scene where a bomb exploded in Hua Hin's bar area Friday morning. BANGKOK — The military Thursday announced it has been holding 17 suspects since almost immediately after last week’s southern attacks and will hand them over to civilian police. Junta spokesman Col. Winthai Suvaree said the military would hand over the suspects, most of whom were detained Saturday, to police on Friday after a military court today approved warrants for their arrest. Full Story: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/politics/2016/08/18/military-reveals-held-17-bombing-suspects-since-attacks/ --Khaosod English 2016-08-18 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 And? After nearly a week locked up and probably interrogated is Thailand any closer to finding the bombing mastermind? 11 bombs, countless witnesses, cctv footage, national security highest priority..... Anything? Do they know anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taichiplanet Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Cased closed then. They have gone the 'blame the politics' route instead of the 'blame the foreigners/terrorists' route. Smart really, now they can gather up all the nuisance political flotsam and jetsam in one broad sweep and announce to the world that Thailand is safe once again for tourists. Now, where did i put that bottle of anticonspiracy pills; i am sure it was between the packets of antiemetic and antidiarrheal tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 now to see what the evidence says about this, if they are the ones responsible it will be a good start but we also know the reputation of those that arrest people in Thailand so its still up in the air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clockman Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 Till the next one, it is not if, but when.! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 You read this news report above, the varying and conflicting details presented, and can only think back to the BBC report the other day and J. Head's description in it as "surreal"!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phycokiller Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 why would they bother telling the public, its not like they are public servants, the public are their servants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim walker Posted August 18, 2016 Share Posted August 18, 2016 So the real bombers are probably still on the loose junta just pick up 17 dodgy looking characters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 So, if you have not already come to the conclusion that these junta-generals are ignorant, arrogant morons, then the following, ... All but three of the suspects are over 50; nine are in their 60s and 70s, with a median age of 58. At least three were police officers were among those hailing from all corners of Thailand, including several Redshirt supporters. All 17 suspects have reportedly denied involvement in the attacks. and ... Chakthip said later Thursday evening police have not yet found anything linking the suspects to the attacks. and ... Among the 17 names is Prapas Rojanapitak, a political activist based in Trang province; Narong Phadungsaksri, a Redshirt from Ang Thong province; and Rujira Saosomphob, the wife of one member of the so-called “Khon Kaen model” of anti-junta conspirators. and ... Khon Kaen-based lawyer Korakoch Butsim said he is concerned about Rujira, ... “She’s just a housewife and doesn’t understand politics. The day she was arrested [in Nong Khai province], she was only out collecting mushrooms,” said Korakoch, who is part of a group of five rights lawyers in Khon Kaen. and ... Here’s the complete list of the suspects held by the military: 1.Police Sen. Sgt. Maj. Sirirat Manorat, 71 of Phatthalung 2. Weerachut Chansa-art, 62 of Chanthaburi 3. Prapas Rojanapitak, 67 of Trang 4. Pramote Sanghan, 63 of Satun 5. Sorasak Ditpreecha, 49 of Bangkok 6.Meena Saengsri, 39 of Bangkok 7.Siritharoj Jinda, 56 of Nong Khai 8. Police Sub. Lt. Wilaiwan Koonsawat, 54 of Nong Khai 9. Shinnaworn Thipnuan, 71 of Chiang Rai 10. Narong Phadungsaksri, 60 of Ang Thong 11. Police Lt. Samai Koonsawat, 57 of Nong Khai 12. Sorawat Kurajinda, 60 of Maha Sarakham 13. Nueaphrai Senklang, 41. 14. Wichien Jiamsawas, 59 of Nakhon Sri Thammarat 15. Boonphob Wiengsamut, 61 of Chiang Rai 16. Rujira Saosomphob, 52 of Roi Et 17. Wiroj Yodcharoen, 67 of Nakhon Sri Thammarat Should make it perfectly obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 So we have the military holding 17 suspects and even got a name for the group as Revolution for Democracy Party. They will hand these 17 suspects to RTP who are surprised that the military is holding so many suspects and in the dark about them as well. What a disconnect between the police and the military. It is hilarious if not worrying that the military is not backing away from their original insistence that the attacks are unrelated to the southern separatists and may resort to some thrumped up charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gk10002000 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 I don't mind people being arrested. But sorry, this is so backwards. The military held them, then will hand them over to the Police after the military court issued warrants for their arrest? eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thailand Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Almost hard to believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcnx Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 7 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: That's a pretty big conspiracy theory. Probably coming from the same folks who predicted that big development would occur timed with a recent (other) birthday -- something that didn't happen at all. Maybe that's exactly what they want everyone to think. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geriatrickid Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Is anyone really surprised? It wasn't too long ago that we had ardent supporters of the military regime were offering their unfounded baseless claims of "Redshirts" or "Thaksin", only to have them go suddenly quiet as their false accusations are exposed. Now we have a group of elderly seniors being held without due process under the suspension of Habeas Corpus and there is absolutely no accountability or transparency. While all this goes on, the people responsible for the bombings are out and about, gleefully looking at the disorder caused, the damage inflicted to the economy and to people's sense of security, and perhaps planning more deadly bombings. And then we have the military regime's bling backers like DJ Jamie who refuse to admit they erred and that the suspension of basic human rights is actually working against an appropriate response to these events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Pol Gen Chakthip: No suspects in bomb attacks held in police custody yet . How dysfunctional can the Government get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 hours ago, tbthailand said: All but three of the suspects are over 50; nine are in their 60s and 70s, with a median age of 58. Yep, that sounds like your standard political bomber profile to me!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harada Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 And no doubt they all tested positive for explosives residue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcomer71 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Words fail me... Sad times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 For those who haven't read the full article, I encourage you to do so. It makes it clear that the military quickly grabbed 17 people immediately after the blasts. No justification was given other than junta spokesman Col. Winthai Suvaree stating “There are credible leads,” without saying what any of these leads were. The police were unaware that these people were being held by the military and have no evidence linking them to the bombings. It appears the junta was clearly planning to pin the bombings on the redshirts without giving any consideration to evidence. Unfortunately the evidence pointing south, not north, is too compelling to be ignored. So now the military will turn over the unfortunate scapegoats to the police without explanation or apology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 10 hours ago, NCFC said: The bombing is linked to the main event and the owner is someone who stands to gain significantly from said event. It is a message that things will not be the same. The actually job was outsourced to southerns because they have the required skillsets. Whisperings in the western media are increasing about the imminence of the main event but you won't hear any thing in LOS. Are you suggesting Thaksin was behind the bombings? If so, that would be a surprise, considering the Krue Se Mosque and Tak Bai "incidents" (google them) among others occurred while Thaksin was PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 So the government are going to use this unfortunate incident to eradicate its political enemies. If this illegal government can make the rules then they can also fabricate the necessary evidence to convict anyone they do not like. Stalin, Pinochet seem like good examples to follow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Some of the suspects were even in custody prior to the bombings because the military are so efficient they can predict the future. They were just waiting for an event though to stitch them up for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reigntax Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Military holding 17 potential scapegoats to avoid losing face....again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 7 hours ago, tbthailand said: 3. Prapas Rojanapitak, 67 of Trang Quote Mr Prapas was a member of the committee that drafted the 2007 constitution following the military coup that overthrew former premier Thaksin Shinawatra. He was also member of the Trang chapter of the yellow-shirted People’s Alliance for Democracy, and belongs to other non-government organisations including the Trang Rubber Planters Network. However, “Prapas joined 90 other southern academics and activists in signing a statement condemning the May 22, 2014 coup that overthrew the government of Thaksin’s sister, Yingluck Shinawatra.” The Post reported that he “insisted he had no link with the red-shirts’ United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD).” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 Everything is back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 So...let me get this straight: the police hold no one and the military holds 17....is that about right?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 4 minutes ago, DM07 said: So...let me get this straight: the police hold no one and the military holds 17....is that about right?! Apparently the police feel they must give the appearance of looking for evidence and following legal procedure (only for high profile cases) while the military clearly doesn't give a d*mn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) 18 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said: You read this news report above, the varying and conflicting details presented, and can only think back to the BBC report the other day and J. Head's description in it as "surreal"!!! Can only agree with you - Copied directly from the "header" page of ThaiVisa:- "Military reveals it's held 17 bombing suspects since attacks" And on the very next line! :- "Pol Gen Chakthip: No suspects in bomb attacks held in police custody yet" The expression about the right hand and left hand springs to mind! Edited August 19, 2016 by sambum Addition to text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 3 hours ago, Hawk said: So the government are going to use this unfortunate incident to eradicate its political enemies. If this illegal government can make the rules then they can also fabricate the necessary evidence to convict anyone they do not like. Stalin, Pinochet seem like good examples to follow. The government of Thailand isn't illegal. The military still don't trust the police to do things correctly, effectively or efficiently. Would you? Turkey and Erdogan are a good example of someone using a circumstance to justify the mass rounding up, rough treatment and imprisonment of political opponents and critics. Look how many thousands he's rounded up and compare that to here. Think you are exaggerating and a tad hyperbolic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winniedapu Posted August 19, 2016 Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) "Junta spokesman Col. Winthai Suvaree said the military would hand over the suspects, most of whom were detained Saturday, to police on Friday after a military court today approved warrants for their arrest." The state of the Thai justice system explained in one sentence. Terrific. Arrest first then get warrants. Outstanding. Never believe a man who's paid to tell lies. Winnie Edited August 19, 2016 by Winniedapu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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