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41 minutes ago, JSixpack said:

 

Which word? :) And how so? Looks like you haven't been here long enough to tell about the overuse of anything. Relevance to this topic?

The term farang is intrinsically demeaning. We accept it from uneducated and coarse Thais. But self denigrating terms have no place in the lexis of foreigners.

 

 

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8 hours ago, starchild5 said:

I'm a good guy, but I do indulge in some sin from time to time...I think majority of us are a mix of good and bad...

 

Since when is hiring a ho a sin? You need to stop apologising for having a bit of fun…i have no problem about guys who want to go to church and choose to masturbate over internet porn…but visiting a brothel is normal….dont let any bingo player tell you otherwise.

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34 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Another member of the keyboard warriors brigade. 

 

Serious as a heart attack, pal. My view is that rather than whinge and cry that you're owed something, get up off your @ss and do something yourself about the matter. The solutions I've given you I know work from personal experience. For example when I was amassing the wherewithal to live in Thailand I always moved close to my job sites so that I wouldn't need to buy a car to get to work. Saved quite a lot that way.

 

But as your points have been shown trivial whinges, you've now resorted to mere name calling. One nice thing about our forum--it's so easy to tell when you've won.

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3 hours ago, possum1931 said:

Not everyone lives next door to the Immigration office.

 

And neither do I. I have a home in Udon and another in Loei, I travel between the two and when I report it's a 150 kilometre trip, given that on most occasions I happen to be in Loei on the day prior to date.

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3 hours ago, lostinisaan said:

 

 

      Couldn't you take your observation and use it for another "more civilized " country? 

     I never wanted to get married back home when I saw my brothers, friends and some relatives. Same old, same old....

 

But then I "ran" into my wife when I wasn't looking for love and we got married  two years later. I don't regret one second of my marriage and I guess i was just at the right place at the right time. 

 

I had the same experience you had...i found someone when I least expected it...and I also rejected the women from america...just my personal preference...

 

I've thought about making an agency, especially with the anticipated demand of women for asians where they are sparse...so if you're serious, let me know...

3 hours ago, lostinisaan said:

    Love is a mysterious thing and the language barrier doesn't make it easier for "lonely hearts " to find a Thai partner.

 

  But all the "love agencies" seem to have a lot of customers and I might create my own soon. Are you looking for a partner? 

 

        

 

         

 

   

 

   

 

         

 

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1 hour ago, JSixpack said:

 

Serious as a heart attack, pal. My view is that rather than whinge and cry that you're owed something, get up off your @ss and do something yourself about the matter. The solutions I've given you I know work from personal experience. For example when I was amassing the wherewithal to live in Thailand I always moved close to my job sites so that I wouldn't need to buy a car to get to work. Saved quite a lot that way.

 

But as your points have been shown trivial whinges, you've now resorted to mere name calling. One nice thing about our forum--it's so easy to tell when you've won.

At least you have the good grace to admit I've won, now this debate is finished, anymore posts and you will be ignored.

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11 hours ago, starchild5 said:

What if a guy is good as well as bad....

 

I'm a good guy, but I do indulge in some sin from time to time...I think majority of us are a mix of good and bad...

 

Your moral compass is so F#*! up! There is massive difference hanging around peek-a-boo bar while your wife is snoozing at the hotel - and a guy wanted for fraud, theft, evading the law and willful overstay in a foreign country.

 

North's up brother!

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5 hours ago, Ronuk said:

You hardly have to be rich to pay 800,000 Baht for a 10 year visa. 80,000 Baht a year equates to around 4 half decent nights out in Bangkok including a mediocre hotel!

Seriously...i need to stay close to you...you must know how to have a really good time...I must be slumming...I've spent that much on a couple of occasions, but it was actually difficult to do so...and I was wrecked afterwards...so you obviously know better places than I...abide on mate...

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3 hours ago, Yann55 said:

might add that in my 30 years of LOS I have come across a disturbing number of businesses run by Westerners who were notorious for having had trouble with the law in their own country, and sometimes this one as well.

 

Especially in Pattaya , many businesses are run by money from the owners criminal past. Then they think they can get away with it.  

 

Pattaya Expat Club comes to mind.... :whistling:

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, possum1931 said:

Maybe I've missed something, but the way I see it is you hand over 800.000Bt to Thailand, stay for ten years, all the time contributing to Thailands economy.

After ten years, they say to you "would you like to stay for another ten years, that will be another 800.000Bt please, if not then bye bye".

 

You really have no clue do you ? IF you have 800,000 baht in the bank every time your retirement visa expires (and it has been in your bank for 3 months at least) then it will be re-newed - subject to the immigration officer being in a good mood or got his leg over the night before, or failing that provable income every month IE: pensions etc of 65,000 Baht. Where do you get this 800,000 baht every 10 years from :crying:

 

 

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Jsixpack makes some pretty good points...we contribute quite alot to the economy, especially in comparison to Thais themselves...if you consider the the prostitution/tourist industry is about 10% and then all the money that comes to support women here and abroad from husbands/bf, i'm betting the figure is more likely to be 15% or 20%...factor in the fact that only 3% of Thai men pay taxes, and the Thai govt should be making it easier for us to be here...and stopping the overt racism regarding pricing and such...the govt should be deporting their own citizens, rather than making it difficult for farang to stay here...

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8 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

 

You really have no clue do you ? IF you have 800,000 baht in the bank every time your retirement visa expires (and it has been in your bank for 3 months at least) then it will be re-newed - subject to the immigration officer being in a good mood or got his leg over the night before, or failing that provable income every month IE: pensions etc of 65,000 Baht. Where do you get this 800,000 baht every 10 years from :crying:

 

 

The Elite visa, cost 500.000 Bt for five years stay in Thailand, 800.000 Bt for ten years, you get nothing in return for it.

Who mentioned retirement visas? Anyway, they are not visas, they are extensions, completely different.

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17 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

The Elite visa, cost 500.000 Bt for five years stay in Thailand, 800.000 Bt for ten years, you get nothing in return for it.

Who mentioned retirement visas? Anyway, they are not visas, they are extensions, completely different.

 

This is what you posted: 

  5 hours ago, possum1931 said:

Maybe I've missed something, but the way I see it is you hand over 800.000Bt to Thailand, stay for ten years, all the time contributing to Thailands economy.

After ten years, they say to you "would you like to stay for another ten years, that will be another 800.000Bt please, if not then bye bye".

 

Says nothing about an Elite visa, and uses the figure 800,000 Baht (which is the retirement visa requirement) Please get facts and figures right, saves us befuddled folk getting confused :D

 

And those figures are in Millions not 100's of thousands.

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7 minutes ago, Golden Triangle said:

 

This is what you posted: 

Maybe I've missed something, but the way I see it is you hand over 800.000Bt to Thailand, stay for ten years, all the time contributing to Thailands economy.

After ten years, they say to you "would you like to stay for another ten years, that will be another 800.000Bt please, if not then bye bye".

 

Says nothing about an Elite visa, and uses the figure 800,000 Baht (which is the retirement visa requirement) Please get facts and figures right, saves us befuddled folk getting confused :D

Sorry, but I thought it was obvious what I was talking about when I said you hand over 800.000 Bt to Thailand to stay for ten years.

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3 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Sorry, but I thought it was obvious what I was talking about when I said you hand over 800.000 Bt to Thailand to stay for ten years.

 

you missed a few zero's off there, it's Millions not 100's of thousands :)

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10 minutes ago, possum1931 said:

Sorry, but I thought it was obvious what I was talking about when I said you hand over 800.000 Bt to Thailand to stay for ten years.

From reading these posts, I think most of us agree that "farang" tend to give a lot more to Thailand's govt than we receive...so I'm guessing it is either the lifestyle of indulgence or the personal relationships we've established that keeps us here...that's the case for me at the moment...

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12 hours ago, overherebc said:

 

Always surprised with these statements about putting everything in your wife's name. Both cars are in my name, bikes in my name, house is 50/50 owned, as was the last one and I got 50% of it when sold, although my wife pays the mortgage.

Sometimes I reckon people get some very bad advice out here.

They believe everthing they hear from the ill informed

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16 hours ago, hobobo said:

Maybe they thought they were bigger than the law? Now they know the answer, som nam na!

 

Essentially the excuse that all long overstayers (and their apologists) give.  "In my expert opinion, it's a stupid law, so I won't obey it."   Darwin Award candidates all.  As this article demonstrates, they DO tend to be involved in criminal activity somewhere.  And as the SIM card debacle, the single internet gateway concept, and other intrusions on the privacy, autonomy, and convenience of foreigners, actual and planned, demonstrate, their flouting of the law indeed DOES affect everyone else playing by the rules.

 

OK, now cue the imbeciles and slow-learners chanting their "goody two shoes" and "high horse" jingles...

 

 

 

 

 

 

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9 hours ago, hdkane said:

From reading these posts, I think most of us agree that "farang" tend to give a lot more to Thailand's govt than we receive...so I'm guessing it is either the lifestyle of indulgence or the personal relationships we've established that keeps us here...that's the case for me at the moment...

Why would you expect anything from a foreign government . All this we give more to this goverment. Not withstanding the working element on this site who pay tax. Retired persons what do you give to the government then. I expect the old chestnut vat or shopping tax to rear it's head. Which all have to pay in almost all countries in the world. Let's stop this buisness of I give more than I recived rubbish. In your home country yes I would agree more than likely worked and paying rates and in my case poll tax. Here nothing  I very rarely (once a month) go to a supermarket then I buy only what I call luxury goods ie dried milk some fruit. So No I do not get anything from the government but I get a lot from the country.

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1 hour ago, Deepinthailand said:

Why would you expect anything from a foreign government . All this we give more to this goverment. Not withstanding the working element on this site who pay tax. Retired persons what do you give to the government then. I expect the old chestnut vat or shopping tax to rear it's head. Which all have to pay in almost all countries in the world. Let's stop this buisness of I give more than I recived rubbish. In your home country yes I would agree more than likely worked and paying rates and in my case poll tax. Here nothing  I very rarely (once a month) go to a supermarket then I buy only what I call luxury goods ie dried milk some fruit. So No I do not get anything from the government but I get a lot from the country.

 

Our farangs always indulge in these delusions of grandeur about their importance to the Thai economy when the Thai gov't dares restrict their right to live in Thailand as freely as they wish--or, worst of all, dares raise visa fees!

Goose Killed!

 

Ruling out the foreigner (2003) is a 17-page "killing the goose" bash fest prompted by the news that after many years Thailand would dare raise visa fees. OMG. THIS WAS IT. The teeth gnashing, the hair pulling, the knickers twisting; the ranting, the wailing, the screaming, the anguish, the shock, the accusations of insanity, and of course the dire prophecies! No one would be left to shop in the malls, no one would buy condos, bar girls would disappear, and Thais would all have to return to work in rice paddies. Back to the Stone Age! Oh, it was gonna be a thousand million times worse than later prophecies of the total destruction of Pattaya tourism by the widening of Beach Road. Go read the thread and laugh—or cry.

 

So much for Siam Paragon (2005) and Central World (2006), both confidently predicted to fail upon opening, just like, later on, Pattaya's Big C Extra and CentralFestival Pattaya Beach.

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1 hour ago, hyku1147 said:

Cambodia is nipping at their heels.

 

:rolleyes: This statement is an obligatory, ritualistic utterance typically found in the peroratio of calls for Thailand's punishment for having been SO cruel to the disappointed farang. It's to be understood as mere wish, a curse, or sour grapes, as Cambodia's never been a serious threat and isn't likely to be for at least a decade from now. If it had been all that our bashers wished, then everybody would have moved there long ago and we wouldn't have a forum.

 

Meanwhile, tourism to Cambodia is increasing by 50% every six months...

     --Lawrence Neal, "Down on Pattaya," Pattaya Mail, Vol. V No. 5 Friday 31 January 1997 - 6 February

 

 

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On 19.8.2016 at 4:02 AM, KittenKong said:

I see no problem with deporting farangs who are wanted for crimes elsewhere, or who commit crimes here. I dont particularly want them living near me, or running businesses that I might frequent. Of course proper punishment of Thais who commit crimes would be nice also, but that seems less likely.

I dont agree....as thailand is a traditional place for fugitives and crooks of all kinds....cheap whores,all night partys dope for almost free a corrupt police force ...its a heaven and not since yesterday...many guys do ajob elswhere in the world and than come here to spend the money....so this is a big part of thai economy....so no worrys thailand is and always will be the place to hang out...

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43 minutes ago, free123 said:

I dont agree....as thailand is a traditional place for fugitives and crooks of all kinds....cheap whores,all night partys dope for almost free a corrupt police force ...its a heaven and not since yesterday...many guys do ajob elswhere in the world and than come here to spend the money....so this is a big part of thai economy....so no worrys thailand is and always will be the place to hang out...

 

Someone else still living in 1969...

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On Friday, August 19, 2016 at 10:17 AM, JSixpack said:

 

Which word? :) And how so? Looks like you haven't been here long enough to tell about the overuse of anything. Relevance to this topic?

The term farang is intrinsically demeaning. We accept it from uneducated and coarse Thais. But self denigrating terms have no place in the lexis of foreigners.

 

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