Caveat Emptor Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 At the rest of inducing massive cardiac arrest does he know Pokemon isn't Thai ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Buildings are supposed to stand for about a hundred years, so if you can design something like that, why don't you ? There are many tenders worldwide for talented Architects to be won. So, stop hiding your many talents, and make a winning design then Mr. Nativist Architect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmitch Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It is on the reserved occupation list. 30. Job-related professional architectural design drawings about price director of construction or advice. Yes, I kept a copy of that wonderfully translated list. This is one of the more comprehensible ones. Still doesn't stop the guy from being a xenophobic so and so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratcatcher Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 (edited) Just now, Father Fintan Stack said: Architect is an occupation prohibited to foreigners. Also, as a foreigner you cannot own an architect business in Thailand. Not quite accurate. (at least in bygone days) Ananta Samakhom Throne Hall And The Italian Jobs. One year after the completion of the Amphorn Satharn Villa within the Dusit Palace in 1906, King Chulalongkorn (Rama V) commissioned the construction of a reception hall to replace the one built during the reign of King Mongkut (Rama IV.). The building in Italian Renaissance and neoclassical style was commissioned to the architects Mario Tamagno and Annibale Rigotti. Marble from Carrara, Italy and other foreign materials were used. Italian sculptor Vittorio Novi, who would later also work on the Mahadthai Udthit Bridge (สะพานมหาดไทยอุทิศ), was employed with his nephew Rudolfo Nolli. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ananta_Samakhom_Throne_Hall The mandarin oriental Hotel was also built by foreigners. " Encouraged by Prince Prisdang Jumsai, Hans Niels Andersen formed a partnership with Peter Andersen and Frederick Kinch to build a luxury hotel. Designed by Cardu & Rossi, a team of local Italian architects, the Oriental was the first luxury hotel in Siam. The hotel opened on 19 May 1887 with 40 rooms and features which at the time had never been seen in Siam outside of a royal palace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Oriental,_Bangkok But they were wiser and more relaxed times. Edited August 31, 2016 by ratcatcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 14 hours ago, ChrisY1 said: Not fair DM07.....he's a Thai nativist.......whatever that might be.....! Thai Nativist: Someone who revels in mediocrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digibum Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 52 minutes ago, KKr said: So, stop hiding your many talents, and make a winning design then Mr. Nativist Architect. He did. That's why he's upset. It wasn't chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Architect is an occupation prohibited to foreigners. Also, as a foreigner you cannot own an architect business in Thailand. ha, then lock his ass up or at least give him a massive fine. so sick of foreigners coming here breaking the laws and making the rest of look like criminals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Too late mate,it's already been built. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvs Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 24 minutes ago, digibum said: He did. That's why he's upset. It wasn't chosen. Exactly!He is missing out on some money in his mind and therefore he is trying to play the blame game.Not much to do with writing on the wall,he is just a bad loser.Maybe he could design and built a few submarines for Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HiSoLowSoNoSo Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 2 hours ago, manhood said: Srisuwan Janya : you better and all the rest of having same mind than this stupid guy - anything you have in this modern world in Thailand is designed, produced, build from foreigners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing is created from Thais!!!!!!!!!! Oh yeah, what about the cure for Ebola And we shall not forget "The Sick Buffalo scam" it's a splendid scam invented by Thais Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manarak Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Mr. Srisuwan appears to be what we can call a real life troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mangostin Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Please stop the bashing, it's unfair, all they need to do, is to give the thai citizenship to that baddy foreigner and all the problems will disappear with it, just as they did with that italian chap which founded their art's national academy a few years back (quite a few), Corrado Feroci....(please keep quiet about it with this naivetist's sect, or they might explode) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 17 hours ago, Mango Bob said: I hope is daughter marries a western. he is making a mountain out of a molehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahibji Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 16 minutes ago, Mangostin said: Please stop the bashing, it's unfair, all they need to do, is to give the thai citizenship to that baddy foreigner and all the problems will disappear with it, just as they did with that italian chap which founded their art's national academy a few years back (quite a few), Corrado Feroci....(please keep quiet about it with this naivetist's sect, or they might explode) world has changed. imported talent has been responsible for many an innovation. how does that hurt any one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billd766 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 17 hours ago, PatOngo said: This is not good he said as he rode /drove his foreign car/motocy while pocketing his foreign iPhone/Samsung wearing his cool Levi jeans and smoking a Marlboro cigarette or maybe he looks forward to riding the Chinese high speed train to Chiang Mai.............Get a life! Does he live in a house that has electricity, air conditioning and cook by gas? Does he drive around in ANY sort of vehicle powered by gasoline, diesel, gas or electricity on roads made of tarmac or concrete? When he complained to the government did he type the letter on his computer and use the internet to send it off. When he travels around does he use a buffalo cart or the bus,car, motorbike, truck, train or aeroplane? Actually Thais have made a very small number of their own aircraft but only after copying foreign designs. Does he wear western style clothes or Thai style all the time? If you want to be a nativist then you have to be one 100% of the time and not just for the bits that you don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genericnic Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 7 hours ago, PatOngo said: ...and by the way....this is a Thai wrist watch! Does it run on time like the Thai trains ...two hours late? David Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roota Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 The law basically says that as a foreigner you can't hang out a shingle and set up as a freelance architect. But you can certainly work for a Thai firm, which is what happened here. The architect was a German, Ole Scheeren, employed by Pace Development. Seems to me the real story here isn't that some wally just figured out that Maha Nakorn was designed by a non-Thai, but that Pace was willing to hire a foreigner, and that he seems to have done a good job for them. That can only be good news for both architecture and foreign architects in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 It is easy to mock the complainant. However for me, the real issue is the fact that very strict laws are enacted, many of which are never enforced except when those high up in the power hierarchy are inconvenienced and then the law is enforced vigorously. The cases involving foreigners stuck in Thailand on charges with no basis whilst the interminable criminal process rolls on spring to mind. This patchy and inconsistent rule of law is one of the major reasons that power and wealth are concentrated in the hands of a few and will remain so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Wondering if he also complains about the thousands of forgeign burmese slave like workers who built the tower... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 Roota is not quite right. The "trick" is to change the job title and job description on the work permit so it doesn't conflict with the prohibitions. The normal way is to add "consultant" after the relevant adjective. So here "architectural consultant". In fact many work permits just say "consultant" as the job title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoFarAndNear Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 4 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: How did he get a work permit if it is an occupation prohibited for foreigners? It is not only foreign owned businesses that cannot set up architecture firms, the actual occupation is prohibited to foreigners! Similar to lawyers and accountants yet there are several foreign lawyers and accountants apparently working legally here also. It's like immigration and the labour dept. honestly don't have a clue about their own laws or the foreigners are working those prohibited occupations and have 'manager' or some other nonsense on their work permits. I'm going for the latter. It like the usual Thai way. Nothing what an brown envelope cannot handle in this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 He's not having much success safeguarding the constitution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 minute ago, greenchair said: He's not having much success safeguarding the constitution. which one ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roota Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 1 hour ago, Briggsy said: The "trick" is to change the job title and job description on the work permit so it doesn't conflict with the prohibitions. Perzactly. Once you're employed by a Thai company, especially someone as big and powerful as Pace, you can do any occupation they want you to do. It's their job to work out the legal niceties. This is in the great Asian tradition of having a set of public rules but behind that a widely accepted system of private arrangements. This seems to bother a lot of Westerners but all I can say is, get used to it, it comes with the territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 10 hours ago, soalbundy said: Oh yeah, what about the cure for Ebola Yes they did apparently develop the cure for ebola but then they kept it secret and refused to share it with the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 7 hours ago, billd766 said: Does he live in a house that has electricity, air conditioning and cook by gas? Does he drive around in ANY sort of vehicle powered by gasoline, diesel, gas or electricity on roads made of tarmac or concrete? When he complained to the government did he type the letter on his computer and use the internet to send it off. When he travels around does he use a buffalo cart or the bus,car, motorbike, truck, train or aeroplane? Actually Thais have made a very small number of their own aircraft but only after copying foreign designs. Does he wear western style clothes or Thai style all the time? If you want to be a nativist then you have to be one 100% of the time and not just for the bits that you don't like. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nativism_(politics) Have thais invented a single thing used in the international community, they can't even lay claim to noodles. What have they given to the world apart from ladyboys and prostitutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docshock13 Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 11 hours ago, manhood said: Srisuwan Janya : you better and all the rest of having same mind than this stupid guy - anything you have in this modern world in Thailand is designed, produced, build from foreigners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Nothing is created from Thais!!!!!!!!!! Well, they did give us the bum sprayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seajae Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 do you think these idiots will ever wake up to the fact that a lot of the problems they have in Thailand are due to them not allowing non thais to do these things. Lets be blatantly honest, bridges fall down and kill people, houses/building fall down and kill people, none of their building workers have qualifications or have done apprenticeships, they refuse to get help to solve serious crimes so they dont lose face, the list just keeps going on. Thailand is a great place to live but these protectionist laws are absolute bullsh*t and simply cause more problems than they are worth. There is nothing wrong with getting people with a lot more knowledge in certain fields to come here and help, all it does is keep the totally under qualified thais in a job they cant really do properly, the examples are everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenchair Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 2 hours ago, soalbundy said: which one ? Exactly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted August 31, 2016 Share Posted August 31, 2016 14 hours ago, ratcatcher said: Good morning you miserable foreigners. Srisuwan Janya Hasn't he got small hands - for a Thai! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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