People want Ministry of Interior to hold next general election rather than the EC

[rooster59]

People want Ministry of Interior to hold next general election rather than the EC

 

 

BANGKOK:-- The majority of people said they wanted to have the Ministry of Interior taking charge of holding the next election as they saw the Election Commission (EC) would be incapable of stopping vote buying efficiently.

 

This finding was revealed by the latest survey conducted by Bangkok Poll, the research arm of the Bangkok University.

 

The poll was made through interviews with a total of 1,156 people from various parts of the country between September 6-7.

 

It revealed that 68.2% wanted the Ministry of Interior to take charge of the holding of the next election to ease the vote buying problem, and relieve the overburdened Election Commission.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/people-want-ministry-interior-hold-next-general-election-rather-ec/

 

 

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-09-10

[brucec64]

A standard story in the propaganda news cycle. This idea was floated last week, followed by a supporting poll. Next week, it will become fact.

 

The idea with the interior ministry running the election is that they can mobilize the army, teachers, students to "convince" the people of the "good" people to vote for. Similar to how the referendum was staged, and just another way to stack the deck in the upcoming faux election.

[Raymonddiaz]

who are those people? The super citizens of Bangkok? Manipulation of opinion, lying....Thailand is becoming Burma 30 years ago.

[candide]

Another survey by the yellow-tainted Bangkok University.......

[Brer Fox]

Vote buying won't be a problem. Given the choice of the carrot or the stick persuasion for voters will most certainly be the latter.

[williamgeorgeallen]

who cares who runs them if the army dictates who runs in them? am i missing something? might as well go to the chinese system and save the money on the elections.

[tbthailand]

since when have the people had a say in anything??? 

 

certainly not since May 2014...

[Srikcir]

3 hours ago, rooster59 said:

The poll was made through interviews with a total of 1,156 people from various parts of the country

A poll of 1,156 people of whom 68.2% wanted the Ministry of Interior to take charge of the holding of the next election disrespects the 16.8 million people who voted in favor of the 2016 draft charter as presented in the referendum. 

 

The CDC decision now for the Ministry of Interior to take charge of the holding of the next election instead of the EC makes a mockery of not only the recent referendum process but of the Thai voters' support for the 2016 draft Constitution.

If the Constitution Court accepts this unconstitutional change, it brings into question exactly what is the role and independence of the Constitution Court.  It will have no relevance to participatory democracy.

[Wilsonandson]

"Incapable of stopping"
These 3 words sum up post coup Thailand.

[trainman34014]

'Cheating' is inbred in Thailand, so no matter what they do vote buying will continue, not least because many hundreds of thousands will not be bothered to vote unless they are paid.  This is a fact of election life here in a country where most know that whatever they vote they get next to nothing that they need or want.

[Eric Loh]

The Interior Minister has been holding election until massive corruption was leveled during Anand' adminstration and the 1997 constitution set up the election commission which metamorphosed into the current EC. Now the public have forgotten about the past IM corruption and want them to hold election. The people is just walking back into the lion's den. What a farce rather than reform and sack the whole incompetent bunch of EC officials. 

[debate101]

I'm glad we finally know what "people" want.

[debate101]

2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said:

who cares who runs them if the army dictates who runs in them? am i missing something? might as well go to the chinese system and save the money on the elections.

 

They're not worried about losing. They're worried about some hothead politician getting behind a microphone, carrying on about what (deleted)s they've been to everyone since the power seizure, and getting the ball rolling on some serious mobilization of pissed off, disenfranchised, cornered proles with nothing left to lose.

 

If you consider the chaos and riots of 2010 as the eventual backlash to the relatively-milder power seizure of 2006, what, then, should we eventually expect to happen after this jamboree? It has been far, far too quiet and orderly, and there are a lot of pent up emotions that haven't had anywhere to flow.

 

Reminds me a bit of what happened before the 2004 tsunami. The tide was way, way out, so people went stumbling around on the beach. Remember: they don't necessarily need great numbers or a majority to support them, just anger and loss of fear.

[Wilsonandson]

What is the goal of the current regime?

"To crush the populist parties and reform the democratic election process so it swings their way everytime?"

Respect my vote, paper doves of peace hanging from bridges, white candles, t-shirts and balloons. Three fingered salutes, guy fawkes masks and 1984 George Orwell books. Be careful, tread slowly current regime, you don't want to get a paper cut or 3 paragraphs in the center pages of some foreign newspaper, that no one reads or cares about and only uses to wrap their fish and chips in.

[55Jay]

 I would of offered more choices in the poll.  How about what's her name - the Minister of Tourism and Volleyball?   Why not?  About 6 months ago, during a second rash of fatalities at train level crossings, the PM put the Ministry of Health in charge of sorting it out.   Being hit by a train is bad for your health so I suppose it makes sense.  

[Pib]

The great majority of people don't have a clue "specifically" (or probably care) what agency within the govt runs the election....they only know the "govt" manages the election and the place they go vote at.  This poll is just making-up stuff with rigged survey questions for some agenda....probably the agenda of whoever is paying for the poll being conducted...or pushed to have the poll conducted.

Edited September 10, 2016 by Pib

[williamgeorgeallen]

1 hour ago, debate101 said:

 

They're not worried about losing. They're worried about some hothead politician getting behind a microphone, carrying on about what (deleted)s they've been to everyone since the power seizure, and getting the ball rolling on some serious mobilization of pissed off, disenfranchised, cornered proles with nothing left to lose.

 

If you consider the chaos and riots of 2010 as the eventual backlash to the relatively-milder power seizure of 2006, what, then, should we eventually expect to happen after this jamboree? It has been far, far too quiet and orderly, and there are a lot of pent up emotions that haven't had anywhere to flow.

 

Reminds me a bit of what happened before the 2004 tsunami. The tide was way, way out, so people went stumbling around on the beach. Remember: they don't necessarily need great numbers or a majority to support them, just anger and loss of fear.

yes i am sure that is their major concern but why bother trying to take over running the elections?

[debate101]

Soldiers and police at every intersection to "keep public order" during whatever paltry amount of time parties are finally given to do their campaigning. Plus they can deny the political angle and claim it is written in the law. Some people will buy it. Probably more than some.

 

[NongKhaiKid]

Isn't 68.2% of 1,156 people conclusive enough proof of what the nation wants ?   

[Wilsonandson]

[williamgeorgeallen]

21 hours ago, Brer Fox said:

Vote buying won't be a problem. Given the choice of the carrot or the stick persuasion for voters will most certainly be the latter.

i am confused. or maybe most of the thai population is confused. the current government has control over the elections via a panel of people they select. there wont be any need for vote buying. i will be amazed if the opposition stand for this carry on however. they after all are in the majority. i would imagine elections will only insight  violence as people realize the majority no longer select their government. doubt the good general will be wanting elections in the foreseeable future.

[debate101]

5 hours ago, Wilsonandson said:

 

Nice cynical take. But also, ummm... freedom of political speech, academic freedom, freedom to travel, freedom of association, freedom of assembly, media freedom, due process, right to privacy... you know--all the things we or others have been lacking since "democratic reforms" began...

 

[Krataiboy]

On 10/09/2016 at 5:20 PM, Srikcir said:

A poll of 1,156 people of whom 68.2% wanted the Ministry of Interior to take charge of the holding of the next election disrespects the 16.8 million people who voted in favor of the 2016 draft charter as presented in the referendum. 

 

The CDC decision now for the Ministry of Interior to take charge of the holding of the next election instead of the EC makes a mockery of not only the recent referendum process but of the Thai voters' support for the 2016 draft Constitution.

If the Constitution Court accepts this unconstitutional change, it brings into question exactly what is the role and independence of the Constitution Court.  It will have no relevance to participatory democracy.

 

 

Stop using logic or you will invite some attitude adjustment.

[Krataiboy]

Most kids pick up languages easily until they get to school. The only surprising element of this story would be if neither of her Thai parents speak any English and no English-speaking third party is involved.  Proving hard to check out.

4 hours ago, debate101 said:

 

Nice cynical take. But also, ummm... freedom of political speech, academic freedom, freedom to travel, freedom of association, freedom of assembly, media freedom, due process, right to privacy... you know--all the things we or others have been lacking since "democratic reforms" began...

 

 

 

One picture worth a thousand words.

[waldroj]

Is this the same majority of people who also voted to accept the so-called "people's" Constitution?

 

If so, then why did they choose to accept the Constitution in the first place, as Section 224 clearly states that the Election Commission shall have the duties and powers to organize or arrange for the conduct of election of members of the House of Representatives, selection of senators and election of members of the local councils and local executives!

[NongKhaiKid]

3 minutes ago, waldroj said:

Is this the same majority of people who also voted to accept the so-called "people's" Constitution?

 

If so, then why did they choose to accept the Constitution in the first place, as Section 224 clearly states that the Election Commission shall have the duties and powers to organize or arrange for the conduct of election of members of the House of Representatives, selection of senators and election of members of the local councils and local executives!

I'd think that in true fashion Sect. 224 will be loosely interpreted to cover organization or arranging to mean the EC can ' invite ' any assistance they are told, sorry deem necessary, to get the job done.