ALRO told to demolish a police general’s luxury house located on Sor Por Kor land

[BAYBOY]

I personally feel this weeding out of some corrupt people  by the Government is mainly window dressing to show"we care for the people", and " we will not let this continue whilst we are in power". All food for the masses to digest. However...

 

The way the Government totally manipulated the recent referendum, stopping any form of dissent, showed how they are totally committed to holding on to the power for as long as possible. It will not be a matter of some rule changes, some new terms, new political parties, then bingo an election and democracy has returned. Controlling everything will be the Armed forces, and the way the new changes will increase their power and grip on the country will actually just be another form of corruption of the powerful feeding off the people.

 

The new senate will have the leaders of the Armed forces, ( Army, Navy, Air Force and the Supreme Commander) as non elected members. I ask how a person can be Chief of the Thai Army and all that entails, and be an effective Senator... impossible. But he will have the hand out for the monthly senator's salary , just corruption again. Disguised, There will be plenty of similar jobs on offer  to other members of the Armed forces. all carefully covered up so not to look like previous forms of corruption. These guys may speak of changing Thailand, the way it governs, window dressing for the public, but no way are they going to let it go. Internationally they have got away from any commendation from the world. More power to them again. Look how Australia, Great Britain, The U.S.A. New Zealand climbed into Fiji when the Army took over there some years back, travel restrictions, trade restrictions, and made most unwelcome in world forums.

 

There must be hundreds of cases of land encroachment being done by Thais, and a few make the headlines........ land taken back, buildings torn down, a 24 hour wonder, no charges laid, no compensation to the Country, just a bit of PR for the masses, and the people who feel satisfied that that this present Govt. is doing it properly.

 

I was told many years ago by an Expat in Papua New Guinea that the only people who suffer from any form of corruption are the poor and the weak, because they have no way to counter what is being done.....to them. It is the same here, thousands of ways to cheat, steal, from your fellow citizen, safe in the knowledge that only a rare few are caught, often with no real consequence to the offender.

 

CHEERS,

BAYBOY

 

 

[joecoolfrog]

2 hours ago, robblok said:

 

I agree there is a lot of selective enforcing.. but i still prefer selective enforcing over NO enforcing. This way at least some people are punished. 

I dont disagree with what you are saying but you avoid the bigger picture. Selective enforcement strengthens the other side , reinforces the stranglehold of the so called elite , is that to the future advantage of the majority of Thais ?

[halloween]

8 hours ago, waldroj said:

If ever one wanted justification for major reform in Thailand they need look no further than the abuse of the Sor Por Kor land title system by many so-called influential people. These so-called "Pillars of Thai Society" have no qualms about criminally manipulating Sor Por Kor for personal gain, and even when caught out, they continue to escape prosecution or even being made to pay the costs of restoring the land they abuse!

 

In the latest blatant example, former deputy police commissioner Pol Maj-Gen Chalee Pekanan has been refusing to return land that ALFO has been seeking to reclaim since 2009.

 

This dispute went to the Supreme Court, who in April 2015 ruled that Pekanan had indeed occupied the land illegally. It also ordered him to dismantle all buildings and other infrastructure, but (as noted in another ThaiVisa article back in July this year) this order was defied and ignored (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/932317-large-plot-of-land-in-khao-yai-owned-by-former-senior-police-officer-seized/).

 

So, according to this Thai BPS article, it has taken yet another ruling from the Supreme Court on July 15 to finally evict Pekanan.

 

It will be interesting to see if this latest order is indeed carried out, and whether Pekanan is held to account for his flagrant abuse of his power and position.

 

Are you arguing against due process? Perhaps for application of Article 44 to speed things along?

Edited September 13, 2016 by halloween

[metisdead]

This topic is not about Yingluck, off topic posts and replies have been removed. 

[thaiguzzi]

Army vs Police.

Soldiers vs Coppers.

Yellows vs Reds (the heirarchy)

Stuff won't get forgotten in a few year's time when the changing of the guard eventually comes around.

Edited September 13, 2016 by thaiguzzi
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[robblok]

1 hour ago, joecoolfrog said:

I dont disagree with what you are saying but you avoid the bigger picture. Selective enforcement strengthens the other side , reinforces the stranglehold of the so called elite , is that to the future advantage of the majority of Thais ?

 

YL and her thugs are no more for the poor then the current mob is. They are all in it for themselves. So the best thing that can happen is that some of the wrongdoers get punished. 

[waldroj]

1 hour ago, halloween said:

Are you arguing against due process? Perhaps for application of Article 44 to speed things along?

Could hardly call this "due process", especially as the saga commenced in 2009 (during the Abhisit-government) and has also required 2 more recent Supreme Court orders (that continue to be defied). 

 

Apart from the criminal recalcitrance of Pekanan, this problem rests with Sor Por Kor land title, and how it is open to abuse (all to often by so-called influential persons). 

 

Institute proper reform of land title (including clearer rules for use of government land) and you may just fix the problem for all time (obviating the need for an "Interim" solution)! 

[TPI]

9 hours ago, waldroj said:

If ever one wanted justification for major reform in Thailand they need look no further than the abuse of the Sor Por Kor land title system by many so-called influential people. These so-called "Pillars of Thai Society" have no qualms about criminally manipulating Sor Por Kor for personal gain, and even when caught out, they continue to escape prosecution or even being made to pay the costs of restoring the land they abuse!

 

In the latest blatant example, former deputy police commissioner Pol Maj-Gen Chalee Pekanan has been refusing to return land that ALFO has been seeking to reclaim since 2009.

 

This dispute went to the Supreme Court, who in April 2015 ruled that Pekanan had indeed occupied the land illegally. It also ordered him to dismantle all buildings and other infrastructure, but (as noted in another ThaiVisa article back in July this year) this order was defied and ignored (http://www.thaivisa.com/forum/topic/932317-large-plot-of-land-in-khao-yai-owned-by-former-senior-police-officer-seized/).

 

So, according to this Thai BPS article, it has taken yet another ruling from the Supreme Court on July 15 to finally evict Pekanan.

 

It will be interesting to see if this latest order is indeed carried out, and whether Pekanan is held to account for his flagrant abuse of his power and position.

 

"don't you know who I am"  Sakdina at its best! What is really needed is a paris commune type of thingy?

[PETERTHEEATER]

.......a police general’s luxury house located on Sor Por Kor land

 

 

Is it a luxury house or a log cabin as claimed by the owner?

[Inyourendo]

Anybody know exact locations of these plots ?

[sweatalot]

6 hours ago, NongKhaiKid said:

This is what it comes down to really SELECTIVE enforcement and while the corrupt, the wrongdoers etc may cop it it won't be all of them.

In LoS and for many reasons so much gets too close to home and people in authority have the Nelsonian blind eye when it suits plus volumes of excuses no matter how ridiculous.

wrongdoer is wrongdoer - better selective enforcement than no enforcement !

Edited September 13, 2016 by sweatalot

[ExpatOilWorker]

The dear police general should have sold it to some newbi farang before it got this far. The guy that build where the new expressway is being extended, might be in the market for a new house.

[Alwyn]

Much more of this and perhaps the police will try and stage a coup

[djlest]

Well to be honest! any previous governments this last 12 years would never have the balls to evict a police general... As much as we fault the army for seizing power... they have the balls to do whats right sometimes... any future new political PMS will as usual tip toe around for fear of being disliked!