How to divorce if your wife won't let you?

[blackcab]

55 minutes ago, GarryP said:

Not if he can prove the condo was purchased before marriage, in which case it is classified as "sin suan tua" personal property, not "sin somros" marriage property, or property gained while married. 

 

Agreed.

[AsianExport]

21 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Get a pre nup.

 

what if it's too late ?

 

[thaibeachlovers]

39 minutes ago, AsianExport said:

 

what if it's too late ?

 

That is the purpose of threads like this, to WARN others for whom it is not too late how to protect themselves. If it is too late, I feel sorry for you, but I have no answer, other than to say hide as much money as possible and plead poverty.

I may have escaped lightly because I never told or showed my wife how much I have, so she may have decided it wasn't worth going to court.

I certainly advise that no farang should have a joint account with more than enough to pay the bills in it.

[thaibeachlovers]

21 hours ago, GarryP said:

Not if he can prove the condo was purchased before marriage, in which case it is classified as "sin suan tua" personal property, not "sin somros" marriage property, or property gained while married.

This is where the whole debate about when the condo is legally someone's starts. IMO if one does not have title before the condo is paid off, then a case could be made that it is marital property as being paid off after marriage.

[GarryP]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

This is where the whole debate about when the condo is legally someone's starts. IMO if one does not have title before the condo is paid off, then a case could be made that it is marital property as being paid off after marriage.

I agree with your opinion. However, if one wants to get really down and dirty, you could then calculate the amount paid on the condo before marriage and the amount after and then upon selling the condo, split the proceeds proportionately using the same ratio. For example, if you paid off 40 percent before marriage and the remainder was paid off afterwards, the split would be 70:30. Don't know how this would wash in court though. 

[thaibeachlovers]

On ‎9‎/‎21‎/‎2016 at 11:14 AM, thaibeachlovers said:

That is the purpose of threads like this, to WARN others for whom it is not too late how to protect themselves. If it is too late, I feel sorry for you, but I have no answer, other than to say hide as much money as possible and plead poverty.

I may have escaped lightly because I never told or showed my wife how much I have, so she may have decided it wasn't worth going to court.

I certainly advise that no farang should have a joint account with more than enough to pay the bills in it.

I would advise any farang having marital problems to move as much money as possible out of the country, or stash it in a safe deposit box, and tell her as often as possible that one has only a small amount of money. If it works out, one still has the money for the marriage, and if it doesn't one is more likely to avoid court and demands of money for nothing.

Of course I am not suggesting avoiding responsibility for children. If you made one you own one.

 

I also advise not to ever let her know how much money one has overseas, or how much one gets in pension or super.

 

However, if one has a legal marriage in one's home country as well as in Thailand, one only has oneself to blame if the home country's court rules that one has to support the non beloved as long as she lives, or gets married to someone else.

Thai law doesn't appear to have entered that abyss of men's despair.

[JerryinTH]

The condo is rented and in my name. She is now demanding 200,000 baht to move out and sign the divorce papers. 

 

How do I get her out of the house? I offered her 100k but she refuses - well she first accepted, then said if you can find 100k you can find 200k. 

 

I am afraid if I agree to 200k it will just go up and up and be an endless game.. 

 

Anyone knows a good lawyer to deal with such things? 

[blackcab]

19 minutes ago, JerryinTH said:

The condo is rented and in my name.

 

Seriously, wise up. Wait until she goes out. Pack your stuff and leave. Inform your landlord you have moved out and let them keep the deposit because that's all you are going to lose. If your wife wants to stay, let her sign a new contract with the landlord. Stop paying the rent and stop paying for water, electricity, cable and anything else.

 

Move on, and in 3 years you can divorce her without her consent. That is if she doesn't ask you for a divorce first so she can marry someone else.

 

Think about it. 200k or your deposit. Which is cheaper?

[jerojero]

^^ So how do you prove that you seperated at a certain date when there is no equivalent of a separation agreement in LOS?

My wife wants to get divorced, but doesn't want to take the time off work to do so, and I'm concerned I don't have all the right bits of paper, which could be catastrophic, even if she does manage to get to the office with me. Also, I am running out of time, as I have no desire to hang around indefinitely waiting for her to pull finger.

The other problem is that now I'm going to be by myself, I won't be able to live in Thailand anyway. I'm not a youngster anymore. So after 3 years, I won't be travelling to LOS just to go to court.

I have no intention of ever getting married again, but she might want to.

Pay her to take time and go with you to the Government Office. If she's at all willing, do it this way otherwise you wait years and pay lots to lawyers! Half day for her time with you at G Office, last time together tell her, and it's done.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, jerojero said:

Pay her to take time and go with you to the Government Office. If she's at all willing, do it this way otherwise you wait years and pay lots to lawyers! Half day for her time with you at G Office, last time together tell her, and it's done.

She didn't want to do that as scared of losing her job, so I was very surprised when she asked me to go to the amphur office to get divorced. Turns out she had negotiated to take the morning off and work in the afternoon.

LUCKILY, I had gone to the office myself to find out what documents I needed, otherwise I would not have had my yellow book, which would have delayed things a lot, causing much anger on her part.

Also, we went when office opened so no q.

Happily for me, it all worked out, and we were finished in an hour. She even had time to change her ID card and driver's licence.

Only thing I did wrong was not getting papers to translate before hand, so I could have been signing everything to her and not knowing till too late.

[thaibeachlovers]

17 hours ago, blackcab said:

 

Seriously, wise up. Wait until she goes out. Pack your stuff and leave. Inform your landlord you have moved out and let them keep the deposit because that's all you are going to lose. If your wife wants to stay, let her sign a new contract with the landlord. Stop paying the rent and stop paying for water, electricity, cable and anything else.

 

Move on, and in 3 years you can divorce her without her consent. That is if she doesn't ask you for a divorce first so she can marry someone else.

 

Think about it. 200k or your deposit. Which is cheaper?

Exactly. That is the reason I and others say only rent, never buy. Trying to sort a divorce having bought a house must be a nightmare when the wife is not willing to co operate.