Spokesman: Trump now believes President Obama was born in US

[webfact]

Spokesman: Trump now believes President Obama was born in US 
JILL COLVIN, Associated Press

 

WASHINGTON (AP) — Donald Trump's campaign spokesman says the Republican presidential candidate now believes President Barack Obama was born in the United States, despite the candidate's repeated refusal to say so himself.

 

In a statement released late Thursday night, campaign spokesman Jason Miller claims Trump "did a great service to the country" by bringing closure to an "ugly incident" that Trump, in fact, fueled.

 

"In 2011, Mr. Trump was finally able to bring this ugly incident to its conclusion by successfully compelling President Obama to release his birth certificate," Miller said.

 

"Mr. Trump did a great service to the President and the country by bringing closure" to the issue, he added. "Inarguably, Donald J. Trump is a closer. Having successfully obtained President Obama's birth certificate when others could not, Mr. Trump believes that President Obama was born in the United States."

 

Trump was, for many years, the most prominent proponent of the "birther" movement, which claimed Obama was born outside the U.S. and thus ineligible to be president — despite the fact that he was born in Hawaii. Trump's comments were seen by many as an attempt to delegitimize the nation's first black president and have turned off many of the African American voters he is now courting in his bid for the White House.

 

The statement came after an interview published by The Washington Post in which Trump again declined to say whether he believed Obama was born on U.S. soil.

 

"I'll answer that question at the right time," Trump told the paper. "I just don't want to answer it yet."

 

Asked by the paper whether his campaign manager, Kellyanne Conway, was accurate when she said in a recent television interview that her boss now believes the president was born in the U.S., Trump responded: "It's okay. She's allowed to speak what she thinks. I want to focus on jobs. I want to focus on other things."

 

Clinton seized on Trump's refusal during a speech Thursday night before the Congressional Hispanic Caucus Institute.

 

"He was asked one more time where was President Obama born and he still wouldn't say Hawaii. He still wouldn't say America," Clinton said. "This man wants to be our next president? When will he stop this ugliness, this bigotry?"

 

While Miller's statement suggests that Trump has believed the president was born in the U.S. since seeing his birth certificate, the candidate has repeatedly stoked the issue in the years since.

 

In August 2012 — more than a year after the president released the document in April 2011 — Trump was pushing the issue on Twitter.

 

"An 'extremely credible source' has called my office and told me that @BarackObama's birth certificate is a fraud," he wrote.

 

Trump has said repeatedly during the campaign that he no longer talks about the "birther" issue, but has refused to retract his previous comments, despite numerous opportunities. Instead, he has described the issue as an inconvenience.

 

"I don't talk about it because if I talk about that, your whole thing will be about that," he told reporters in his plane last week. "So I don't talk about it."

 

The statement from Trump's spokesman also makes the unsubstantiated claim that Clinton launched the birther movement during her unsuccessful primary run against Obama in 2008.

 

"Hillary Clinton's campaign first raised this issue to smear then-candidate Barack Obama in her very nasty, failed 2008 campaign for President," the statement claims. "This type of vicious and conniving behavior is straight from the Clinton Playbook. As usual, however, Hillary Clinton was too weak to get an answer."

 

Clinton has long denied the claim.

 

On Twitter, her spokesman Brian Fallon did not address that allegation, but said Trump's acceptance that Obama was born in the U.S. needed to come from the candidate himself.

 

"Trump needs to say it himself. On camera. And admit he was wrong for trying to delegitimize the country's first African American President," Fallon wrote.

 

Indeed, Trump himself has said that his aides shouldn't be trusted to speak on his behalf.

 

"Don't believe the biased and phony media quoting people who work for my campaign," he tweeted in May. "The only quote that matters is a quote from me!"

 

Obama had released a standard short form of his birth certificate before the 2008 presidential election. Anyone who wants a copy of the more detailed, long-form document must submit a waiver request, and have that request approved by Hawaii's health department.

 

In 2011, amid persistent questions from Trump about his birthplace, Obama submitted a waiver request. He dispatched his personal lawyer to Hawaii to pick up copies and carry the documents back to Washington on a plane.

 

The form said Obama was born at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961, at Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital in Honolulu. It is signed by the delivery doctor, Obama's mother and the local registrar.

 

On the day he released the document, Obama jabbed at Trump. "We're not going to be able to solve our problems if we get distracted by sideshows and carnival barkers," he said.

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AP White House Correspondent Julie Pace contributed to this report.

 

-- © Associated Press 2016-09-16

[Silurian]

5 minutes ago, webfact said:

Indeed, Trump himself has said that his aides shouldn't be trusted to speak on his behalf.

 

"Don't believe the biased and phony media quoting people who work for my campaign," he tweeted in May. "The only quote that matters is a quote from me!"

 

Cool, Trump and his campaign can say whatever they want and even contradict each other and it doesn't matter.How convenient. Let the confusion continue! Or maybe this means we can just ignore anything from Trump's campaign people, probably including his delusional children. I can do that (or to say, I already do).

[Missing Troll]

Of course he believe this now when people out there believe that his wife married for the green card and Trump is her 2nd marriage. They don't like to reveal her documents from that time only got the lawyer say he see nothing suspicious about her green card without seen all her documents. 

[spidermike007]

What can one even say about this guy? I am no fan of Hillary. I think she is a terrible candidate, and I am convinced her economic policies could lead to disaster at the extreme, or in the least to a continuation of a sluggish economy, and the continued diminishing quality of life for the middle and lower class Americans. But this guy will do, or say anything to either make a buck, or get himself elected. It just does not matter, whether it is true, or even approaching reality. He does not care. He lives in that Ivory Tower, and occupies a different world. It is rather amusing that this billionaire, who has scammed thousands of people in his life, many of whom were middle of the road, small business people, is professing his ability to lift up those same people he deliberately tore down, and destroyed. 

 

Want to buy some snake oil? I can offer you a really good deal. It is capable of curing anything, and everything. Let's make America great again. 

[elgordo38]

Lawd be praised I dun seen de light. 

[DM07]

Oh for.... sake!

[Jingthing]

Too little.

Too late.

A majority (DEPLORABLES) of his base thinks Obama is a Muslim.

trump himself has insinuated much more recently that Obama is on the side of Islamic terrorists.

trump is a very skilled demagogic con man. 

Kick him back  to his garish tower! 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Jingthing

[Emster23]

One key indicator of narcissist personality is inability to admit to doing or being wrong. They just can't do it, he can't do it.

[Jingthing]

26 minutes ago, Emster23 said:

One key indicator of narcissist personality is inability to admit to doing or being wrong. They just can't do it, he can't do it.

Indeed!

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/

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Trump tells Post he is unwilling to say Obama was born in the U.S.

Despite Donald Trump's refusal to say so, his campaign said late Thursday that he does, in fact, believe Obama was born in Hawaii. Trump was once a vocal proponent of the debunked conspiracy theory that the nation’s first black president was born overseas and ineligible for the White House, and has never disavowed those claims.

 

 

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Trump's campaign says he recognizes Obama’s U.S. birth, but layers it with falsehoods

The Trump campaign and the candidate aren't delivering the same messages. In a statement riddled with falsehoods, the campaign said that Donald Trump acknowledged Obama's U.S. birth after the candidate declined to do so.

 

 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Jingthing

[dunroaming]

I am not sure who is driving the Donald train these days?  Clearly his behaviour is getting more and more bizarre.  Inviting a talk show host to ruffle his hair?  Very Presidential!  He is obviously trying to change peoples perception of him but to what end?

[phantomfiddler]

I simply do not understand why someone born (supposedly) in Hawaii would find themself being schooled in a muslim joint in Indonesia, AND stand there and say that they are not a muslim even after writing in their own book that if it came to the crunch they would be on the muslim side !!! I believe this man is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on the american public ! Nothing about this man conforms to logic, and I am a great believer in logic.

[Jingthing]

8 minutes ago, phantomfiddler said:

I simply do not understand why someone born (supposedly) in Hawaii would find themself being schooled in a muslim joint in Indonesia, AND stand there and say that they are not a muslim even after writing in their own book that if it came to the crunch they would be on the muslim side !!! I believe this man is the greatest scam ever perpetrated on the american public ! Nothing about this man conforms to logic, and I am a great believer in logic.

His mother was working in Indonesia. She was an expat at the time. Familiar with concept?  Years pass between when a baby pops out of a vagina and the beginning of school years. That's logical, yes?  Many logical people will not believe that your concept of logic is not topped with a TIN FOIL HAT. 

 

It's one thing to not approve of Obama's policies, accomplishments, leadership style, etc. It's quite another to be in the basket of deplorables believing crap that he wasn't born in Hawaii, that's he's a secret Muslim terrorist agent, etc. 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Jingthing

[JHolmesJr]

If he has absolutely no trace of having muzzlim blood, why hang on to the name Hussein?

 

H'es definitely part muzzlim….he can waffle on about how he was brought up christian but nothing there can be proved.

[Jingthing]

6 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

If he has absolutely no trace of having muzzlim blood, why hang on to the name Hussein?

 

H'es definitely part muzzlim….he can waffle on about how he was brought up christian but nothing there can be proved.

That is his name.

He never denied that his baby Daddy father, that he hardly knew, was Muslim.

He has also never denied that he finds beauty in aspects of Muslim cultures, and why shouldn't he, there are indeed beautiful aspects of it (and also ugly just like other religious cultures). 

DUH!

BTW, there is nothing wrong with being Muslim but there is something wrong with all these conspiracy theories about Obama. 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Jingthing

[JHolmesJr]

Who said theres anything wrong with being muzzlim?

 

What's dodgy is when he disavows that part like it doesn't exist….what can you say about a man who is ashamed of his roots…just because it is politically expedient.

 

Guess first black muzzlim president is not the soundbite he wanted.

[Jingthing]

24 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

Who said theres anything wrong with being muzzlim?

 

What's dodgy is when he disavows that part like it doesn't exist….what can you say about a man who is ashamed of his roots…just because it is politically expedient.

 

Guess first black muzzlim president is not the soundbite he wanted.

You're being daft.

He doesn't disavow anything.

He's very open about his father and his experiences as a child in Indonesia.

If he wanted to hide that, yes he would have changed his name, which he didn't. 

His name indeed was a political liability but he's so amazing that he overcame that.

You realize as far as many religious Muslims go, he should be executed for apostasy if indeed he was considered Muslim by them because his father was definitely Muslim. But he's American so they don't get to go there with him. 

 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Jingthing

[JHolmesJr]

So he was born muzzlim but isn't because he says so?

[Jingthing]

7 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

So he was born muzzlim but isn't because he says so?

Muslim is not a race and in the USA we have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. You are free to be whatever religion you like or NO RELIGION, change that at ANY TIME,  regardless of whatever is your religion of your birth (not conceding Obama was born Muslim but in any case it's IRRELEVANT). 

 

In my case, I was born a Jew in the ethnic sense, so I'll always be a Jew, even though I am basically an atheist. But it's not the same with Muslims as Muslim is not an ethnicity. 

 

Thank you though for providing an excellent example of how the minds of the MAJORITY of deplorable trump supporters work as the MAJORITY of them believe, just like you, that Obama is a Muslim, when he obviously is NOT. 

Edited September 16, 2016 by Jingthing

[dunroaming]

let's have a little fun with this.  let's pretend that Obama was a Muslim.  So he got into power as President to do what exactly?  According to those who believe that all Muslims are terrorists he must have had a plan to bring down the USA, right?  He must have had a plan to get rid of all the Christians and made American a Muslim country, right?  The last thing he would want to do is go after Bin Laden because he would have been a buddy of his, right?

 

Apart from anything else the American peole would have seen through him within his first four years in office and they would have voted him out, right?  After all the republicans had done the best they could to discredit him and they had a man who could take his place in a heartbeat, right?

 

Time for a rethink?  Not likely is it

[johnnywishbone]

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I am fairly sure, as in positive, that with a Muslim father, it is required you be Muslim.
Especially in Indonesia.
Black daddy ran off like a bitch.
White mommy raised and educated him.
And he's a racist.
Go figger.


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[JHolmesJr]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Muslim is not a race and in the USA we have FREEDOM OF RELIGION. You are free to be whatever religion you like or NO RELIGION, change that at ANY TIME,  regardless of whatever is your religion of your birth (not conceding Obama was born Muslim but in any case it's IRRELEVANT). 

 

In my case, I was born a Jew in the ethnic sense, so I'll always be a Jew, even though I am basically an atheist. But it's not the same with Muslims as Muslim is not an ethnicity. 

 

Thank you though for providing an excellent example of how the minds of the MAJORITY of deplorable trump supporters work as the MAJORITY of them believe, just like you, that Obama is a Muslim, when he obviously is NOT. 

 

you sound delusional…who said muslim was a race?

 

Just like you were born a jew, he was born a muzzlim….that's all there is to it….he can deny it all he wants…but might be an idea for him to drop Hussein from his name. I don't see any record of him changing his religion.

 

Hes not a terrorist or anything like that…why is he so ashamed of his lineage and what sort of man thinks like this?

[Mansell]

Lot of racists on TV who don't like a black president......I wonder how many of you are actually American citizens or just like to spout off?

considering the nitwit who was there before him, I am pretty happy with Obama.

By the by, if he was a Muslim and wanted to destroy America, why didn't he just let the economy fall further into the toilet after the mess the nitwit handed to him. He could have easily let it all fall apart.......Oh dear, there I go using logic again. I guess he isn't a Muslim after all.

[BlindMagician]

8 hours ago, Silurian said:

 

Cool, Trump and his campaign can say whatever they want and even contradict each other and it doesn't matter.How convenient. Let the confusion continue! Or maybe this means we can just ignore anything from Trump's campaign people, probably including his delusional children. I can do that (or to say, I already do).

 

 

 

[Ulysses G.]

2 hours ago, Mansell said:

Lot of racists on TV who don't like a black president.

 

 Lots of LIES about that. I do not like Obama, his insane Iran "deal" and his disastrous policies. His color has nothing to do with it.

[Ulysses G.]

3 hours ago, dunroaming said:

 

Time for a rethink?  Not likely is it

 

 The little fantasy that you made-up? Not likely at all.

 

Who thinks that "all" Muslims are terrorists?  Pretty much nobody. 

[Ulysses G.]

5 minutes ago, Chang4u said:

 

Trump always despised Obama, not because he is black or has a muslim education, but because Obama is stupid.

 

 

Not stupid schoolistically - more like naive. IMO, he has no common sense.

[212Roger]

2 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

 The little fantasy that you made-up? Not likely at all.

 

Who thinks that "all" Muslims are terrorists?  Pretty much nobody. 

Your classic "straw man" argument.

[Ulysses G.]

46 minutes ago, 212Roger said:

Your classic "straw man" argument.

 

Indeed it is. An attempt to distract from the weakness of his argument.

[dunroaming]

3 hours ago, Ulysses G. said:

 

 The little fantasy that you made-up? Not likely at all.

 

Who thinks that "all" Muslims are terrorists?  Pretty much nobody. 

 

Maybe you should check that out with some of your fellow Trumpsters on TV.  Actually that is not true, it covers plenty on here who are not even American as well.  Maybe just refer to them as racists

[Publicus]

10 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

Who said theres anything wrong with being muzzlim?

 

What's dodgy is when he disavows that part like it doesn't exist….what can you say about a man who is ashamed of his roots…just because it is politically expedient.

 

Guess first black muzzlim president is not the soundbite he wanted.

 

 

The lunar political-cultural right has always been reading the mind of Barack Hussein Obama to suit its own political prejudices, so they assign to Obama the political paranoia of the fringe right. The moonbeam right refuses to accept that Obama himself has said many times he is Christian. He worshiped at a Christian church in Chicago. So the right even attacks the minister at the Christian church. The racial right across the board, from the ostracised racist right to the right of center racial right, make their own construct based on race, not religion. The claims of Obama's 'true' religion flow from the political stem of race and racialism.

Edited September 16, 2016 by Publicus
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