Jonathan Fairfield Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Is this allowed? Drama emerges when celebrity monk photographed carrying his daughter By Coconuts Bangkok BANGKOK:-- TV singer Thassapak “Bie” Chii and his actress wife, Sumontip “Gubgib” Chii, found themselves at the center of netizen hatred yesterday after Gubgib posted a picture of her husband, who is temporarily ordained, holding their daughter. Gubgib wrote on her Instagram: “Came to pay respects to my monk, but have to put a wig on first! Don’t want people confusing the baby and the monk. Hahahahaha.” After seeing this picture, many netizens discussed on whether or not it was appropriate for a monk to hold a little girl, since it is deemed to be a serious offense for a monk to be touched by a woman. Full story: http://bangkok.coconuts.co/2016/09/26/allowed-drama-emerges-when-celebrity-monk-photographed-carrying-his-daughter -- © Copyright Coconuts Bangkok 2016-09-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluespunk Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Oh for pity's sake... Netizens... Useless bunch of <deleted!> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 And how many little girls who are to young to know go up and touch a monk? The farce here is the way people will just sign up on a temporary subscription, many of them married men, probably sneak home in the night for a bit of hows your farther, or even worse to the home of their Mea Noi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukrules Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 A child is not a woman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoorSucker Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Troll post removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thechook Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Father holds his child oh the shame of it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 Drama. DRAMA? A father holding his own daughter is a DRAMA? No wonder so many people hold religion in such disdain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 He's not even a real monk. People really do love to act holier than thou. It's a very ugly and fake trait. Especially when corruption is so widely accepted here and so many people partake in it. Buddhism here seems to be nothing more than a good luck charm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltsc Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 (edited) "After seeing this picture, many netizens discussed on whether or not it was appropriate for a monk to hold a little girl, since it is deemed to be a serious offense for a monk to be touched by a woman." The issue here is not about a monk touching a woman. It's about people who cannot or will not distinguish between a child and a grown woman. How many times do we see someone claiming that an 8 year-old is dressing provocatively? This is a case of adults sexualizing a child and blaming the child. This is the justification a pedophile uses for molesting a child. Don't blame the monk in this case. Look at yourself and ask: "Why am I viewing this child as an adult?" Edited September 27, 2016 by jaltsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doremifasol Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 He is a dad to the baby girl before he is a monk. End of drama. Get a life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NongKhaiKid Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Oh wad some power the giftie gie us, to see ourselves as ithers see us, It wad frae monie a blunder free us, An' foolish notion. Robert Burns Isn't it amazing how many, in every religion, who complain about things not being right are less than perfect practitioners themselves ? Edited September 27, 2016 by NongKhaiKid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alive Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) The monk obviously knows nothing about Thailand or Thai-style Buddhism. Or maybe he does and wants to make a statement of protest. Or maybe he wants media publicity because he is a failing actor. There could be lots of reasons for this. The first mistake any foreigner makes when coming to Thailand is to think monks actually follow their vows. I tried to respect them when I first got here but I've seen the truth. Another day another monk going through the motions. Edited September 27, 2016 by Alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveAustin Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) ... The Buddha looks down over Thailand and continues shake his head. Edited September 27, 2016 by daveAustin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seahorse Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 He is a "Modern Monk". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sphere Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 It's all a big misunderstanding. He's probably just blessing another Luk Thep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkidlad Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Many Thais really do have to distinguish between what's sexual and what's affection. The whole idea of pecking your gf on the lips or cheek before you go to work is not sexual. It's affection. If Thailand is a conservative culture, that's fine. Up to them. But don't confuse sex with affection, and you'll have to think of another reason why you think something is inappropriate. As for young kids dressing in short skirts, wearing make up and crop tops, that totally is sexualising a child. But let's not discuss things. Let's just continue with the same pattern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlover Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, Alive said: The monk obviously knows nothing about Thailand or Thai-style Buddhism. Or maybe he does and wants to make a statement of protest. Or maybe he wants media publicity because he is a failing actor. There could be lots of reasons for this. The first mistake any foreigner makes when coming to Thailand is to think monks actually follow their vows. I tried to respect them when I first got here but I've seen the truth. Another day another monk going through the motions. I wasn't planning on going there and I still have reservations. But I totally empathise with Alive's comments above. My real, more deep-seated feelings, if expressed, would probably have me banned from this forum! Edited September 27, 2016 by Moonlover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psimbo Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Never confuse 'monks' with religion in Thailand! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mesterm Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Oh I thought he committed a crime or something and was looking to be pardoned, cause that's usually when you see celebrities get ordained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 12 hours ago, Jonathan Fairfield said: many netizens discussed on whether or not it was appropriate for a monk to hold a little girl many netizens need to get a life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLSEEINGEYE Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 People with nothing better to complain about. It is his baby daughter. She is a many many years away from being a woman, she is an infant. They should turn their attention to the creepy monk in Hua Hin that was making so many advances towards my gf that she had to stop going to that temple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumbleweed Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 The only crime would have occurred if he had refused to hold her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unclueng Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Buddha teaches, "A Monk must not touch a woman with passion." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Religion - always causing stupidity And please, no remarks about how Buddhism is not a religion - t is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotBkk Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Not being a hypocrite Jonathan. However, I seem to recall you saying on a very recent post we expats shouldn't complain about things in Thailand??Old adage I suppose - what's good for the Goose is good for the Gander !!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM07 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 First of all: seriously? But secondly: "...since it is deemed to be a serious offense for a monk to be touched by a woman." What part of WOMAN do I have to explain to the @#$!&^? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry15 Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 I'm more disturbed by the fact that they coloured the infants hair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Many people in Thailand need to take a good grip on reality and forget all the mumbo-jumbo nonsense regarding Buddhism in Thailand. What the majority of Thai people practice / believe / pay for, is so far removed from the teachings of Lord Buddha that it's even related - other than by name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 surely the general population here have realized that the Buddhist religion rules are just for show. surely the way the monks carry on their rules are just for show as well. 1. I undertake the training rule to abstain from killing. Pāṇātipātā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi. 2. I undertake the training rule to abstain from taking what is not given. Adinnādānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi. 3. I undertake the training rule to avoid sexual misconduct. Kāmesumicchācāra veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi. 4. I undertake the training rule to abstain from false speech. Musāvādā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi. 5. I undertake the training rule to abstain from fermented drink that causes heedlessness. Surāmerayamajjapamādaṭṭhānā veramaṇī sikkhāpadaṃ samādiyāmi.[8] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fookhaht Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) 3 hours ago, Moonlover said: I wasn't planning on going there and I still have reservations. But I totally empathise with Alive's comments above. My real, more deep-seated feelings, if expressed, would probably have me banned from this forum! We all thank you for your heroic self-control. Edited September 27, 2016 by Fookhaht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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