Krataiboy Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Cut-price copies of everything will be a thing of the past if the current Thai regime does as it is threatening and signs up to the TransPacific Partnership (TPP). Not just clothes, but a whole range of pirated stuff costing a fraction of the cost of the genuine article will be outlawed if and when this secretly drafted and negotiated "free trade" deal goes through. Computers will no longer arrive already loaded with a free copy of a brand name operating programmes. There will be no more cheap CD's and VCD's and inexpensive generic versions of pills and potions produced by major drugs companies will vanish from pharmacists shelves. In its eagerness to enforce copyright laws and usher in TPP, the government should not make the mistake of underestimating the inflationary repercussions and the social hardship which will particularly effect the lives of the poor, sick and elderly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 2 minutes ago, robblok said: Nothing wrong with copy right.. and yes I download movies. But I can understand people wanting to protect their investment and source of income. Nothing wrong with that if you advertise a products and brand and then others copy that.. that is theft.. I can understand it I don't buy the fake stuff because the quality sucks. In your country they even send a bill from 10.000 baht to contractors for using a radio while they work (even when they don't have a radio at all!!) That's because bypassers might listen to their radio (which they don't have) and then the contractor has to pay for copyrights because bypassers listen to the music he is playing for them... I met some very angry contractors because of that ridiculous rule who refused to pay it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangkok Barry Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, fruitman said: Nike should check their factories after workinghours...Same goes for Honda...they might use their machines to produce something else, who knows? Also those companies should check where their B-choice ends up....it's easy to sew a new label in it and sell it as new. True. A friend of mine had to visit a factory in Bangkok seeking pirated software and came across a load of Made In Germany labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitman Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Krataiboy said: Cut-price copies of everything will be a thing of the past if the current Thai regime does as it is threatening and signs up to the TransPacific Partnership (TPP). Not just clothes, but a whole range of pirated stuff costing a fraction of the cost of the genuine article will be outlawed if and when this secretly drafted and negotiated "free trade" deal goes through. Computers will no longer arrive already loaded with a free copy of a brand name operating programmes. There will be no more cheap CD's and VCD's and inexpensive generic versions of pills and potions produced by major drugs companies will vanish from pharmacists shelves. In its eagerness to enforce copyright laws and usher in TPP, the government should not make the mistake of underestimating the inflationary repercussions and the social hardship which will particularly effect the lives of the poor, sick and elderly. Last week i wanted to buy an Apple macbook in a big computershop in a big mall...the salesman offered me to install Apple software plus a copy (unregistered) of Windows so i could use them both. Oh and the blue pills are on every street in chinatown. Edited September 30, 2016 by fruitman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 9 minutes ago, fruitman said: In your country they even send a bill from 10.000 baht to contractors for using a radio while they work (even when they don't have a radio at all!!) That's because bypassers might listen to their radio (which they don't have) and then the contractor has to pay for copyrights because bypassers listen to the music he is playing for them... I met some very angry contractors because of that ridiculous rule who refused to pay it. And the point being ? been gone from the Netherlands for 10 years. You wont find me defending stupid rules (that is a stupid rule). But trying to protect your income after you have invested is quite normal. I can understand it that they do it (going after fake items). Just imagine you got a good idea and you brand it put work in it and someone else steals the idea and makes money from it.. not fair when you look at it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminatorchiangmai Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Usually i just go to BKK if i need new jeans. Making it a weekend of party and shopping and come home with some new Diesel jeans. The price of the jeans compared to the ones in Europe makes it a free weekend and some savings left over. I hope they not raid all the shops otherwise the misses might not let me go anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LomSak27 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 headline ... America demands action ... byline "The government is keen to free itself from trade sanctions imposed over the trade in fake goods" . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snooky Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 5 hours ago, fruitman said: Those brandnames caused this themselves. I'm pretty sure the fake goods came from the real factories. Agree! Probably most of the so-called rip off clothing is coming from the same factories only now the retail buyer does not have to pay off all those middlemen who run the prices up 600% or more. Same as buying name brand sneakers here at 2000-4000-bt when they are made here or in a neighboring country for a fraction of the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 1 hour ago, Saraburi121 said: Why does Thailand really care what the US thinks anyway? Because in 2015 Thailand exported almost one-half trillion baht of goods to the US? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SABloke Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 6 hours ago, mike324 said: hard to believe only 1 shop got caught for fake goods in MBK, when pretty much more than half of the clothing shops are selling fake copies "fake copies"? So they're selling the real thing then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PumbaBangkok Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Are the Trademark owners having their profit's significantly impacted by the sale of these copies? Would a person who buys a fake Rolex for example really be in the market for a real one? Same with the copy Handbags and scents. Not suggesting that pirating goods is ok , but wondering about the real financial impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggo Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Once a year this charade goes on to placate the Yanks and the Europeans! Still don't really know why they bother - the people who buy are never going to be able to afford the real stuff and it certainly won't affect their sales anyway. I think there was a recent UK study that actually showed it had no impact at all. The country which is not a good one to arrive with fakes is France where they can give you heavy fines and confiscate the goods -be warned! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johpa Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 4 hours ago, PumbaBangkok said: Are the Trademark owners having their profit's significantly impacted by the sale of these copies? Would a person who buys a fake Rolex for example really be in the market for a real one? Same with the copy Handbags and scents. Not suggesting that pirating goods is ok , but wondering about the real financial impact. Just ask Bill Gates or Phil Knight just how much pirated goods have impacted their incomes. I could add the Hans Wilsdorf Foundation, the titular owner of Rolex, but they don't make public their financials as a non-profit, and non-taxed entity. By the way, I long ago banned Nike from our household because, well because only dogs just do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broeno Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Nothing but show time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ulic Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 Funny, I have been looking for Tommy shirts all year and all I get is "no hab". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebonykap Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 I'm a marketer's nightmare. I never buy brand names because that's what you're paying for. So many products available at the same, if not better, quality as the original at a fraction of the price. I'm not interested in "status" or "showing off", only functionality and quality. And, can't these "fat cat" super brands see that buyers of the copies are not in their target market and do, in fact, increase brand awareness for their products when used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanio82 Posted September 30, 2016 Share Posted September 30, 2016 17 hours ago, mike324 said: hard to believe only 1 shop got caught for fake goods in MBK, when pretty much more than half of the clothing shops are selling fake copies Only half ? MBK is fake all over and bad quality since that fine jeans shop behind McD on groundfloor closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricardo Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 16 hours ago, fruitman said: It's just how you look at it, the crocodile brand looking the other way is a nice example. And it seems to be legal. "No, not counterfeit, it genuine 'Crocodile of Thailand' brand, what Lacoste mean ?", as the street-vendor once assured me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianExport Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 Hopefully the real big guys who export $ millions of fakes yearly do not keep stock at these areas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonmarleesco Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 No wonder they don't permit the import of counterfeit goods; it would upset the balance of payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On 9/30/2016 at 10:55 AM, Saraburi121 said: Why does Thailand really care what the US thinks anyway? They don't give a damn. But they don't want to risk having sanctions imposed. So nick a few wide boys to keep the US happy and then it's back to business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted October 1, 2016 Share Posted October 1, 2016 On 9/30/2016 at 10:55 AM, Saraburi121 said: Why does Thailand really care what the US thinks anyway? They don't give a damn. But they don't want to risk having sanctions imposed. So nick a few wide boys to keep the US happy and then it's back to business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radiochaser Posted October 2, 2016 Share Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Last year I ordered Levi jeans from their website after I returned to the U.S. from Thailand and they were shipped to my house. I have a brother in law knows who Levi's better than I, finds and trades the older pants on ebay. I thought the Levi's looked shabby and on looking, found they were made in Haiti or Jamaica, someplace in that area. My brother in law looked at the jeans and asked me why I had bought counterfeit Levi's while I was in Thailand, the pants were that bad looking. I returned them too Levi. Edited October 2, 2016 by radiochaser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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