Court sets October 11 to rule bail revocation of five redshirt leaders

[webfact]

Court sets October 11 to rule bail revocation of five redshirt leaders

 

 

BANGKOK: -- The Criminal Court today opened a hearing of the request by the Office of the Attorney-General to revoke bails granted to five redshirt activist leaders with reason that they had breached bail conditions imposed by the court.

 

The five leading members of the redshirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD) facing revocation of bails are Jatuporn Phromphan, Veerakarn Musikapong, Nattawut Saikur, Weng Tochirakarn, and Nisit Sinthuprai.

 

The request to revoke bails for the five redshirts was initially made to the OAG by the Department of Special Investigation (DSI).

 

The DSI claimed the five redshirts breached the bail conditions during a recent TV programme “Mong Krai” (looking ahead) aired on Peace TV channel.

 

The five were accused of making provocative criticism during their comments on the appointment of the new Supreme Patriarch, and the construction of the Rajabhakti museum park in Hua Hin.

 

Their comments were detrimental to peace and order and was tantamount to breach the bail conditions imposed on them by the court.

 

Full story: http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/court-sets-october-11-rule-bail-revocation-five-redshirt-leaders/

 

-- © Copyright Thai PBS 2016-10-03

[than]

Klong Prem would welcome them for a few years

[halloween]

I guess when they have their bail revoked they will start to complain about the delay in hearing their case.

[sweatalot]

I don't understand why they are still on bail in the first line

[Alive]

October is famous for revolution and change around the world. Thailand seems to be on that course with more and more hypocrisy from the people in power. I got a feeling something is up. Today I spoke with a lot of Thais who were really bothered by the current state of Thailand. I may be wrong but I just feel like something is going to happen this month. By locking these folks away, the government isn't helping its position. Just my opinion.

[halloween]

9 minutes ago, Alive said:

October is famous for revolution and change around the world. Thailand seems to be on that course with more and more hypocrisy from the people in power. I got a feeling something is up. Today I spoke with a lot of Thais who were really bothered by the current state of Thailand. I may be wrong but I just feel like something is going to happen this month. By locking these folks away, the government isn't helping its position. Just my opinion.

Try getting out of your red village.

[robblok]

29 minutes ago, Alive said:

October is famous for revolution and change around the world. Thailand seems to be on that course with more and more hypocrisy from the people in power. I got a feeling something is up. Today I spoke with a lot of Thais who were really bothered by the current state of Thailand. I may be wrong but I just feel like something is going to happen this month. By locking these folks away, the government isn't helping its position. Just my opinion.

Care to stake your reputation on it ? If nothing serious happens in October you admit that the general populace does not care as much as you think and the reds are as bored with their leaders as most others are. 

[trainman34014]

As the people running the country are all gutless wonders hiding behind guns and '44', these Guys will walk because said gutless wonders will be more worried about any uprising that may be caused by them being jailed.

[Alive]

I'm not saying there's going to be a major event just that there seems to be a lot of angry frustrated people around. Already today people were in the streets for one thing. It's a good month for some resistance and there are legit reasons for people to be angry with abuse by those in power ignored. It's true a lot of people don't care but big changes never start with everyone. It's always a small group who starts things and as I said some people are already on the streets. A lot of people have been screwed over by the actions of this regime. People have had to give up careers due to street clearings and that cost them a lot financially. So many people have lost land and opportunity across the nation. A lot of people have gripes. That's all I am saying. An of course, no one likes outright corrupt people and this regime certainly has its abuse and arrogance. It's setting the stage.

[scorecard]

19 minutes ago, Alive said:

I'm not saying there's going to be a major event just that there seems to be a lot of angry frustrated people around. Already today people were in the streets for one thing. It's a good month for some resistance and there are legit reasons for people to be angry with abuse by those in power ignored. It's true a lot of people don't care but big changes never start with everyone. It's always a small group who starts things and as I said some people are already on the streets. A lot of people have been screwed over by the actions of this regime. People have had to give up careers due to street clearings and that cost them a lot financially. So many people have lost land and opportunity across the nation. A lot of people have gripes. That's all I am saying. An of course, no one likes outright corrupt people and this regime certainly has its abuse and arrogance. It's setting the stage.

 

 

People are already on the streets. please share some specifics of your substantive statement.

 

Diversion will not suffice.

[JAG]

40 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

 

People are already on the streets. please share some specifics of your substantive statement.

 

Diversion will not suffice.

Ummh

 

And no, it's not the Redshirts or Thaksin. But it is several hundred people on the streets protesting, and as "Alive" suggests that is, in the current climate, rather significant.

Edited October 3, 2016 by JAG

[Alive]

I told you I just feel there is a lot of sick and tired folks out there. Who knows. This regime needs to stop the corruption and the denial and answer to the people. Let's see how reporters treat the regime this month. And if Prayuth gets angry and runs out of press conferences again. Maybe he'll just avoid them all together.

Some of the reasons for anger:

-  legal cases going through this month

- lots of people being kicked out of their traditional places of work and life (at seashore, in the nightlife industry, on the sidewalks, in rural areas, in urban areas, etc)

- claims there would be no flood and yet now many people under water (and not yet BKK vicinity but who knows)

- Taxis and van drivers having to change their traditionally spaces

- Fisheries and other specific businesses put under labor pressure

- regime members abuse without punishment

-denial of problems brought up by public

-the waste on luxury on the trip to Hawaii

-lots of people with friends who have been jailed

-loss of property in scenic rural areas by many urban people

-lots of people who have been cut out of positions in the civil service

-a feeling of nepotism and cronyism in the current regime

- etc etc etc

 

I'm not saying all that is happening is bad for everyone. I'm just saying a lot of people bad and good have been hurt by the way this regime does things. Doing things the way they do, they are losing supporters every day in my opinion.

[tbthailand]

8 hours ago, webfact said:

The five were accused of making provocative criticism during their comments on the appointment of the new Supreme Patriarch, and the construction of the Rajabhakti museum park in Hua Hin.

 

Their comments were detrimental to peace and order and was tantamount to breach the bail conditions imposed on them by the court

 

yes, truly horrible crimes against the people, ... 

 

or more accurately, truly horrible crimes in the eyes of the Generals. 

 

Look folks, the clown car has no tires... 

[halloween]

10 hours ago, tbthailand said:

 

yes, truly horrible crimes against the people, ... 

 

or more accurately, truly horrible crimes in the eyes of the Generals. 

 

Look folks, the clown car has no tires... 

 

The actions mentioned are not the crimes that these scum are charged with, merely bail conditions that they have broken on numerous occasions over the last 6 years.

Of course you would prefer to forget their actual crimes, or that justice was delayed by appointing them as PTP party list MPs as a reward for committing them.

[Srikcir]

19 hours ago, webfact said:

Their comments were detrimental to peace and order

Should read:

"Their comments were detrimental to the National Council for Peace and Order."

[aussieinthailand]

16 hours ago, halloween said:

Try getting out of your red village.

I'd rather be in a "red village" than swinging on a bar stool in Pattaya, Soi cowboy, etc..............

If they have breached their bail conditions then let justice be served,   Ppwwwahhh,,,,,   Justice,  in LOS,   I just spit my coffee everywhere and peed a little,  hehehehhe....

[scorecard]

14 hours ago, JAG said:

Ummh

 

And no, it's not the Redshirts or Thaksin. But it is several hundred people on the streets protesting, and as "Alive" suggests that is, in the current climate, rather significant.

 

 

And you conveniently fail to mention why they are protesting.  All about land and their specific points go back decades and not at all specific to the current government.

 

You might also like to note that many posters on TV label them as squatters who are not entitled to the land they squat on. Is it as simple as that? No, and I hope ultimately there is some progress on this issue. And I also hope things get speeded up to remove land from nasty previous / current scaly politicians.  And someone will be quick to add '... what about Sutheps' family? Well just a reminder last week his son got 2 years jail for land stuff and possibly more coming. 

 

Quote: "...and as "Alive" suggests that is, in the current climate, rather significant."  Got nothing to do whatever with the current environment. Just a few posters who are determined to twist anything they can hoping it paints a negatives about the current government. 

[scorecard]

22 minutes ago, aussieinthailand said:

I'd rather be in a "red village" than swinging on a bar stool in Pattaya, Soi cowboy, etc..............

If they have breached their bail conditions then let justice be served,   Ppwwwahhh,,,,,   Justice,  in LOS,   I just spit my coffee everywhere and peed a little,  hehehehhe....

 

Well at least you could get a hand out.

[Eric Loh]

7 minutes ago, scorecard said:

 

Well at least you could get a hand out.

 

Dont you know that this is the country of hand out. The UDD, PDRC, PAD and even nephews, sister-in-law, free loaders on a chartered plane, top civil servants on"education' trips and the list goes on and on. Wake up and smell the roses. 

[mtls2005]

Just use Article 44 to charge all red shirts, try/convict in a military court, issue a lifetime ban from politics and imprison them. The results will be the same, and it will save time and money.

 

Heck, seize all their assets too.

 

All in the name of equal treatment under the law, and reconciliation of course.

[oldsailor35]

15 hours ago, Alive said:

I told you I just feel there is a lot of sick and tired folks out there. Who knows. This regime needs to stop the corruption and the denial and answer to the people. Let's see how reporters treat the regime this month. And if Prayuth gets angry and runs out of press conferences again. Maybe he'll just avoid them all together.

Some of the reasons for anger:

-  legal cases going through this month

- lots of people being kicked out of their traditional places of work and life (at seashore, in the nightlife industry, on the sidewalks, in rural areas, in urban areas, etc)

- claims there would be no flood and yet now many people under water (and not yet BKK vicinity but who knows)

- Taxis and van drivers having to change their traditionally spaces

- Fisheries and other specific businesses put under labor pressure

- regime members abuse without punishment

-denial of problems brought up by public

-the waste on luxury on the trip to Hawaii

-lots of people with friends who have been jailed

-loss of property in scenic rural areas by many urban people

-lots of people who have been cut out of positions in the civil service

-a feeling of nepotism and cronyism in the current regime

- etc etc etc

 

I'm not saying all that is happening is bad for everyone. I'm just saying a lot of people bad and good have been hurt by the way this regime does things. Doing things the way they do, they are losing supporters every day in my opinion.

But according to the PM., Thai's are very happy with the way he is running the country and that tourism is on the increase.

[oldsailor35]

3 hours ago, halloween said:

 

The actions mentioned are not the crimes that these scum are charged with, merely bail conditions that they have broken on numerous occasions over the last 6 years.

Of course you would prefer to forget their actual crimes, or that justice was delayed by appointing them as PTP party list MPs as a reward for committing them.

According to your thinking, anybody who is in politics and not on your side are criminals. What  a dictatorial muppet you appear to be.

[oldsailor35]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

 

And you conveniently fail to mention why they are protesting.  All about land and their specific points go back decades and not at all specific to the current government.

 

You might also like to note that many posters on TV label them as squatters who are not entitled to the land they squat on. Is it as simple as that? No, and I hope ultimately there is some progress on this issue. And I also hope things get speeded up to remove land from nasty previous / current scaly politicians.  And someone will be quick to add '... what about Sutheps' family? Well just a reminder last week his son got 2 years jail for land stuff and possibly more coming. 

 

Quote: "...and as "Alive" suggests that is, in the current climate, rather significant."  Got nothing to do whatever with the current environment. Just a few posters who are determined to twist anything they can hoping it paints a negatives about the current government. 

Rather disappointing that because i thought it was 5 yrs for  stealing 47 rai on Samui. However he won't do any time,as like his corrupt daddy, he will do time at the local temple and then come out squeeky clean and keeping the 47 rai for himself.

[Alive]

2 hours ago, scorecard said:

 

 

And you conveniently fail to mention why they are protesting.  All about land and their specific points go back decades and not at all specific to the current government.

 

You might also like to note that many posters on TV label them as squatters who are not entitled to the land they squat on. Is it as simple as that? No, and I hope ultimately there is some progress on this issue. And I also hope things get speeded up to remove land from nasty previous / current scaly politicians.  And someone will be quick to add '... what about Sutheps' family? Well just a reminder last week his son got 2 years jail for land stuff and possibly more coming. 

 

Quote: "...and as "Alive" suggests that is, in the current climate, rather significant."  Got nothing to do whatever with the current environment. Just a few posters who are determined to twist anything they can hoping it paints a negatives about the current government. 

 

I think it shows that other groups can now go out and protest too and should. You think that no one has been hurt by this regime's rash actions. A lot of people have reasons to be angry and want their voices to be heard. This country doesn't belong to generals. It belong s to the Thai people. Not the Bangkok people, the whole nation. All Thais deserve to be treated equally and when they aren't they should fear expressing their opinions because of soldiers with guns or arrest.

[halloween]

4 minutes ago, oldsailor35 said:

According to your thinking, anybody who is in politics and not on your side are criminals. What  a dictatorial muppet you appear to be.

Ummm........it wasn't me that charged them. And there does happen to be considerable evidence to support those charges. Do you remember the video, bring your bottles and we'll burn Bangkok?

[oldsailor35]

Just now, halloween said:

Ummm........it wasn't me that charged them. And there does happen to be considerable evidence to support those charges. Do you remember the video, bring your bottles and we'll burn Bangkok?

Yes and Suthep sending the troops out fully armed with live ammo  to quell a protest at a temple where they shot and killed an innocent nurse who was attending to wounded protesters.

The bottles stuff was only words, but the bullets were real.

[halloween]

Just now, oldsailor35 said:

Yes and Suthep sending the troops out fully armed with live ammo  to quell a protest at a temple where they shot and killed an innocent nurse who was attending to wounded protesters.

The bottles stuff was only words, but the bullets were real.

So I imagined the fires in Bangkok? The black shirts, Seh Daeng, and all the other crap going on?

[oldsailor35]

19 hours ago, sweatalot said:

I don't understand why they are still on bail in the first line

Neither do i. They should just be considered as free people standing up for their rights under a democracy which is non existant.

[scorecard]

2 hours ago, Eric Loh said:

 

Dont you know that this is the country of hand out. The UDD, PDRC, PAD and even nephews, sister-in-law, free loaders on a chartered plane, top civil servants on"education' trips and the list goes on and on. Wake up and smell the roses. 

 

 

Just a small piece of humor.

 

But thanks for the attempt at education. In fact I'm just as aware as anybody of what refer to.

 

 

[JAG]

2 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

Just use Article 44 to charge all red shirts, try/convict in a military court, issue a lifetime ban from politics and imprison them. The results will be the same, and it will save time and money.

 

Heck, seize all their assets too.

 

All in the name of equal treatment under the law, and reconciliation of course.

Quite possibly what will happen to many of them...