klauskunkel Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 While new army chiefs from other countries focus on "country's defense", "army reform", or "modernizing", the very first public statement of any new Thai army chief is... "No coup from me, don't worry" I don't know if that's stupid or clever, probably unintentionally clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKay Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 4 minutes ago, KIWIBATCH said: "Trust me"...said the General..." I am thai"....... Says the man who got his knickers in a wad over a computer game called Tropico and banned it from this country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Loh Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Coup or uprising, whichever comes first from deteriorating events behind the scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, JAG said: Illuminating is it not? The Head of the Army sees a coup as part of his duties, should the government not rule "with integrity". Who defines this "integrity"? Surely not the head of the army? I have often asked the junta supporters on TVF the same question. Never got an answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Srikcir Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 5 hours ago, webfact said: the army would not stage a coup under his leadership. Meaning that a coup is considered as option under the authority of the military. Chalermchai's statement just confirms that the system of elite rule will remain in place irrespective of any People's Constitution. While the latter requires the Thai populace to obey law and order prescribed by the Constitution, the former is only bound by nebulous nonconstitutional or transcendental unwritten elements that exist outside of the constitution, ie., such as integrity, patriotism, restraint, etc. as defined by the elite class - albeit for application to the populace and not to themselves. Chalermachai ominously states that he "follow orders from my superiors." As demonstrated over the last 12 coups, such superiors have not been answerable to the Thai electorate but to a separate, thus higher, authority. The Thai elite system of "dark" governance diverges from the path to democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 No need for him to plan a coup. He already has his snout in the trough, and it was the last coup that got him his present job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 army has formed the new government so who is going to do a coup? the police, they will need a lot more guns, and tanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesbrock Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 24 minutes ago, Srikcir said: Meaning that a coup is considered as option under the authority of the military. Chalermchai's statement just confirms that the system of elite rule will remain in place irrespective of any People's Constitution. While the latter requires the Thai populace to obey law and order prescribed by the Constitution, the former is only bound by nebulous nonconstitutional or transcendental unwritten elements that exist outside of the constitution, ie., such as integrity, patriotism, restraint, etc. as defined by the elite class - albeit for application to the populace and not to themselves. Chalermachai ominously states that he "follow orders from my superiors." As demonstrated over the last 12 coups, such superiors have not been answerable to the Thai electorate but to a separate, thus higher, authority. The Thai elite system of "dark" governance diverges from the path to democracy. This very apt, five year old story from the Nation expands upon your truths further. Quote The [invisible] hand (he or she, there could be more than one invisible hand), operates in the shadow because it cannot bear the scrutiny, the transparency and accountability of a democratic society. It also apparently does not believe the majority of voters should be able to elect their own representatives and determine the future course of Thai society. The flesh and blood puppets of the invisible hand can at time rebel and become a loose cannon, however. What Chumpol said last week might have been an aberration of a puppet and so he quickly enough, but belatedly, tried to play down what he had said earlier. There are many puppets. Their job is to make unconstitutional and unpalatable things acceptable and be rewarded. These flesh and blood puppets do have their own ambitions and interests too, so their relationship with the puppet master, or the invisible hand, isn't actually that straightforward and smooth, and not always subservient. http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2011/06/15/national/Invisible-hand-throttles-our-democracy-30157823.html It's just a pity that we have posters who refuse to accept this truth and go on to praise the current puppet as a "hero" and a "brave man"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansnl Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 4 hours ago, Eligius said: Absolutely. And 'acting with integrity' in this context means serving the less than 1% who think they have the right to own and control this country and kick the powerless in the teeth - day after day! Please explain to me how it is done in your country? Directly or indirectly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retiredandhappyhere Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 So, if he or his bosses, in their opinion, decide that the government is not acting with intergrity, they CAN stage a coup? One wonders how they would recognise integrity anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realenglish1 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 ROFL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heybruce Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 " The country's last coups in 2006 and 2014 gained the "overwhelming support" of the people, as they could help avert political violence, he said." Of course he means the overwhelming support of the right kind of people in Bangkok. Martial law and a curfew were imposed nationwide, and strictly enforced outside of Bangkok, after the 2014 coup in fear of the fact that the Thai people didn't support the coup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brucec64 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 "I am a professional soldier, and I follow orders from my superiors. I can confirm that there will be no coup, so there should be no concern about me," he said. Did he just call Prayut an unprofessional soldier who does not follow orders? Also, interesting that his opening statements only focused on whether he would a) turn on the Thai people and b) turn on his own military. Nothing about the military actually protecting the country against any foreign threats... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MZurf Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 "I am a professional soldier, and I follow orders from my superiors. I can confirm that there will be no coup, so there should be no concern about me," he said. Did he just call Prayut an unprofessional soldier who does not follow orders? Also, interesting that his opening statements only focused on whether he would a) turn on the Thai people and turn on his own military. Nothing about the military actually protecting the country against any foreign threats...That is obviously not the main purpose of the Thai military. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 oh well soon then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AGareth2 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 his appointment is interesting almost as if there is a rift developing thieves often fall out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbthailand Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 9 hours ago, webfact said: Any government that rules with integrity is unlikely to be overthrown by the military, as the coup-makers would have no good reason to justify their action, he said the army IS the problem... And has been since 1932. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maoro2013 Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 4 hours ago, hansnl said: Please explain to me how it is done in your country? Directly or indirectly. Yes money runs the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldhippy Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 10 hours ago, Thechook said: There was another recent general who expressed the same phrase in 2014. I wonder what he is doing these days. My coup is different! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmicbkktxl Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 " I am a professional soldier, and I follow orders from my superiors " Does that mean prayuth is not a good soldier because he didn't follow orders from his superiors[Khun Yingluk],and he helped suthep and other thugs to prevent people from voting ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 AS if he would publicly announce he was planning a coup, history shows, on an average, there is a coup, every 2 years, in Thailand. Because of certain laws we cannot mention what the military has done, readers should read the history, of Thai coups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexlowe Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 6 minutes ago, Rorri said: readers should read the history, of Thai coups. Every 4 years on average since 1932, as you'll see if you read the history of Thai coups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorri Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 minutes ago, Dexlowe said: Every 4 years on average since 1932, as you'll see if you read the history of Thai coups. My apologies, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baerboxer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 12 hours ago, ukrules said: This is very reassuring. I'm sure I've heard this before but I can't quite place where, when and more importantly who said it; but I've definitely heard it before. The time to start worrying is when it gets 'vowed" ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Lawrence Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 The Generals 'Field Marshal Wilhelm Keitel'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xircal Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 He must have read my post yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoboKay Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 2 hours ago, Dexlowe said: Every 4 years on average since 1932, as you'll see if you read the history of Thai coups. Any astrologers mapped out the stars that are aligned or dominant or whatever-astrologer-terms-is-applicable, during those years where each coup occurs? Perhaps its celestial in nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 "I am a professional soldier, and I follow orders from my superiors. I can confirm that there will be no coup, so there should be no concern about me," he said.So Prayuth is not a professional soldier and doesn't follow orders from his superiors. So there should be concern about him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlindMagician Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 So a coup is on the horizon then. The key word in his statement is "unlikely". It does leave the door open doesn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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