maddox41 Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 (edited) NEW LAW WHEN BUYING A NEW MOTORCYCLE IN THAILAND Two months ago the Thai government introduced a new law for buying a new motorcycles in Thailand . Which I found out today ? Before a Farang only needed a valid Non O visa a certificate of residence and your money . But now you will require a valid Thai bike license or a valid international bike licence to buy a new bike in Thailand . Be warned when you call the bike shop and ask all the relevant questions in regard to what they require to buy a motorcycle you will be told you don't need a licence it's not until you arrive to the shop they will tell you one is needed to purchase a motorcycle . Most if not all will not sell you a bike if you don't have a valid Thailand or International bike licence . I hope this helps ? Maddox41 Edited October 10, 2016 by seedy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenl Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 NEW LAW WHEN BUYING A NEW MOTORCYCLE IN THAILAND Two months ago the Thai government introduced a new law for buying a new motorcycles in Thailand . Which I found out today [emoji50] Before a Farang only needed a valid Non O visa a certificate of residence and your money . But now you will require a valid Thai bike license or a valid international bike licence to buy a new bike in Thailand . Be warned when you call the bike shop and ask all the relevant questions in regard to what they require to buy a motorcycle you will be told you don't need a licence it's not until you arrive to the shop they will tell you one is needed to purchase a motorcycle . Most if not all will not sell you a bike if you don't have a valid Thailand or International bike licence . I hope this helps [emoji50] Maddox41Nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebluewater Posted October 10, 2016 Share Posted October 10, 2016 What a bunch of horse pucky . . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinneil Posted October 11, 2016 Share Posted October 11, 2016 OP who told you this? I suspect salesman/ woman at bike showroom who doesnt know the law. Go to 3 motorbike showrooms and get told 3 different things about the law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtrump Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) Actually, this happened to me 6 months ago. I was talking with the KTM salesman and he told me I needed a license. I talked to my friend at the Honda shop in Nonthaburi and he told me nonsense. KTM dealer told me no problem thru email but afterI bought the bike he told me again I needed a license. Finally, I found out the details. He told me that to register in Bangkok district Land Office, where the KTM dealer is, they wanted a license if my work permit was not in Bangkok. My work permit is in Ayutthaya. Whether that is true or not I don't know but that is finally what I got out of him. I told them, simple solution, register the bike in Ayutthaya. I met them at the Land Office in Ayutthaya about 2 months ago and no problems whatsoever. But they had me driving 3.5 months without registering the bike. But I do have the driver's license now because without it I really don't think the insurance company will pay if in an accident. Edited October 12, 2016 by jtrump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yankee99 Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 (edited) This is nonsense plenty of people own vehicles that dont drive. Also I purchased a motorcycle in Bangkok 3 weeks ago and never gave them a license Edited October 12, 2016 by yankee99 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedtripler Posted October 12, 2016 Share Posted October 12, 2016 nonsense again ,lol cash is all ive ever needed ,and bought the gf a new scooter 24 days ago and registered it the following day at MO Chit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neilly Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 I would hazard a guess at proof of identity...nothing to do with actually having a bike licence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnasher328 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Seems irrelevant as you shouldn't be buying or riding a bike without the necessary licence anyway! Insurance - including health insurance - will likely be invalid if you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 hour ago, Gnasher328 said: Seems irrelevant as you shouldn't be buying or riding a bike without the necessary licence anyway! Insurance - including health insurance - will likely be invalid if you do. So a rental shop owner or trader needs to have a license for every vehicle type? The rider needs the license, not the owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 14 hours ago, eisfeld said: So a rental shop owner or trader needs to have a license for every vehicle type? The rider needs the license, not the owner. Would make sense if he has to pick up or deliver his vehicle somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 5 hours ago, bramds said: Would make sense if he has to pick up or deliver his vehicle somewhere. Unless he has staff to do that, or puts a bike on a truck or delivery van. Or a car on a truck. Whatever it is, there are situations where the owner wouldn't need to drive/ride the vehicle so no need to require a license. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bramds Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 16 hours ago, eisfeld said: Unless he has staff to do that, or puts a bike on a truck or delivery van. Or a car on a truck. Whatever it is, there are situations where the owner wouldn't need to drive/ride the vehicle so no need to require a license. If you put it on a truck or a van, you would still need a license Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 7 hours ago, bramds said: If you put it on a truck or a van, you would still need a license Hehe yea but in some cases not the same kind of license :) E.g. He wouldn't need a motorbike license to transport one with his truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 You don't need a license to drive on private property Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 51 minutes ago, johng said: You don't need a license to drive on private property Also good point! You can walk into a Honda dealership and buy a CRF250R that isn't even street legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 1 hour ago, eisfeld said: Hehe yea but in some cases not the same kind of license :) E.g. He wouldn't need a motorbike license to transport one with his truck. could get someone else to drive truck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exsas Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Quick question Can I buy a new motorcycle with a Non B visa, certificate if residency, and cash? I intend to get a license anyway i have been told new rules have come into force and it is now much harder to buy. (not sure how accurate this is). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Shouldn't be an issue. If you are in doubt, just ask your dealership what's required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttakata Posted October 27, 2016 Share Posted October 27, 2016 Stupid law. How will old men surprise their 20 year old girlfriend's with a new Fino? Wonder if this applies to cars? Lots of Farangs gift those too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papa al Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 OP papa questioning the veracity if this 'new law' What was your source? Did You talk to a lawyer Did you read the statute in Thai or translation. Did a dealer staff say this, and how would they know? Actual evidence would be nice. TT The new 125cc Fino in pearl / blue looks good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foozool Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 2 days ago I was at a dealer to buy a scooter. They told me work permit and passport will be needed for transfer. After I replied that I don't have any work permit, they said it will be ok without work permit. Just my passport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seedy Posted November 2, 2016 Share Posted November 2, 2016 Flaming post removed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 Bought a motorbike 3 days ago and they only asked for my passport and some cash. The guy showing me over the bike wasn't sure how to handle my question of where the reverse gear was located though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eisfeld Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 To the guys who buy motorbikes with just passport and cash: are you sure you didn't also need a certificate of residence? Otherwise I find it hard to imagine how they can register the bike in your name without any address proof. And what kind of bike did you buy to expect a reverse gear? A Goldwing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 As far as I understand the bike only needs to be registered if you intend to riding it on the public road if you are riding on private property then there is no requirement to register it , the shop can and will sell you a bike and give receipt of purchase which will prove ownership if you wanted to sell it after a few years it could only be sold to someone who would also only ride on private land as registering the bike for legal road use later could be quite troublesome.l Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akirasan Posted November 3, 2016 Share Posted November 3, 2016 1 hour ago, eisfeld said: And what kind of bike did you buy to expect a reverse gear? A Goldwing? It was a joke.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) On 03/11/2016 at 0:22 PM, akirasan said: It was a joke.. I got it first time and it made me laugh. Edited November 5, 2016 by Briggsy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namplik Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 On 11/3/2016 at 3:23 AM, akirasan said: Bought a motorbike 3 days ago and they only asked for my passport and some cash. The guy showing me over the bike wasn't sure how to handle my question of where the reverse gear was located though. In Bangkok? On 11/2/2016 at 0:36 PM, Foozool said: 2 days ago I was at a dealer to buy a scooter. They told me work permit and passport will be needed for transfer. After I replied that I don't have any work permit, they said it will be ok without work permit. Just my passport. Where in the kingdom was this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
recom273 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 As far as I understand the bike only needs to be registered if you intend to riding it on the public road if you are riding on private property then there is no requirement to register it , the shop can and will sell you a bike and give receipt of purchase which will prove ownership if you wanted to sell it after a few years it could only be sold to someone who would also only ride on private land as registering the bike for legal road use later could be quite troublesome.lKind of correct - shop wouldn't care, a dealership would have to register it in your name to get the plates.This thread is quite confusing - to me a shop is a place that sells 2nd hand bikes - for sure they don't mind what happens, you buy the bike, show them a passport if required, pay the cash and like you say, up to you if you want to register it in your name or not.Then, there's a dealer - who will ask for proof of ID to complete the papers, settle the balance with the distributor, pay outstanding tax and get a plate, some will skip the certificate or WP if a repeat customer.Anyway, most dealers can't deal with westerners anyway, we want to pay cash, we want a discount, we want to ride the bike off the showroom, prolly made up the idea of the DL to get rid of you and save face so they could deal with a Thai person who's happy to pay the interest on a credit deal and has the mandatory ID card and a few useless guarantors Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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