THAI POLITICS: A leader must be held accountable for the actions of his team

[webfact]

BURNING ISSUE

A leader must be held accountable for the actions of his team

Attayuth Bootsripoom
The Nation

 

BANGKOK: -- Prime Minister Prayut Chan-o-cha seems to be enjoying a brief respite from headaches over controversies involving people close to him.

 

For the past few weeks has faced criticism over the actions of his younger brother General Preecha Chan-o-cha and of Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister Prawit Wongsuwan.

As Defence Ministry permanent secretary, Preecha was linked with the appointment of his son as an Army officer and also the use of an Air Force plane to transport his wife and entourage to the opening ceremony for a dyke in Chiang Mai that had been named after her.

 

Full story: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/politics/A-leader-must-be-held-accountable-for-the-actions--30297552.html

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2016-10-13

[NongKhaiKid]

Accountability, Responsibility etc are words all but unheard of here.

 

As military men they should be aware of one of the rules of command which is,

You can delegate your authority but not your responsibility.

 

Doesn't seem to apply here and likely never will.

[tbthailand]

40 minutes ago, webfact said:

A leader must be held accountable for the actions of his team

Yes, but Prayuth is not a leader.

 

OK, he was the coup-leader, that's true.

 

But beyond that, he is just the head crony of a corrupt organization known as the Thai Military. He's anything but a leader and he has done an amazing job proving that fact over the last 2 1/2 years. 

[NongKhaiKid]

19 minutes ago, tbthailand said:

Yes, but Prayuth is not a leader.

 

OK, he was the coup-leader, that's true.

 

But beyond that, he is just the head crony of a corrupt organization known as the Thai Military. He's anything but a leader and he has done an amazing job proving that fact over the last 2 1/2 years. 

That just says it all.

[trogers]

Been here for over 30 years and had never seen any leader being held to such accountability.

 

Need more be said? This is not Japan.

[Thailand]

If it's accountability I hope they have deep pockets to pay the compensations when their day comes.

They have set the precedent with their treatment of previous government oficials.

[jamesbrock]

1 hour ago, NongKhaiKid said:

Accountability, Responsibility etc are words all but unheard of here.

 

As military men they should be aware of one of the rules of command which is,

You can delegate your authority but not your responsibility.

 

Doesn't seem to apply here and likely never will.

 

Unless, of course, you're on the other side - then you must be personally accountable for everything that you did as a public official...

[JAG]

4 minutes ago, Thailand said:

If it's accountability I hope they have deep pockets to pay the compensations when their day comes.

They have set the precedent with their treatment of previous government oficials.

They have granted themselves and Amnesty. 

[jamesbrock]

8 minutes ago, JAG said:

They have granted themselves and Amnesty. 

 

They have indeed, but can't the next administration void that section of the constitution retrospectively? (I don't know, not a rhetorical question.)

[NongKhaiKid]

6 minutes ago, JAG said:

They have granted themselves and Amnesty. 

Will a new govt honour the amnesty or simply overturn it ?

Every administration is more than capable of interpreting the law as they see fit and of course making it up as they go along, depending on who forms the next govt.

PTP in power owe the junta nothing and that's more than likely to manifest itself when it's pay back time.

 

 

[JAG]

11 minutes ago, jamesbrock said:

 

They have indeed, but can't the next administration void that section of the constitution retrospectively? (I don't know, not a rhetorical question.)

Probably only at the risk of initiating a coup. Then again the next administration may well come to power as a result of events which weaken and/or remove the militarys power.

 

If that were the case then the look on some faces when the rug was pulled away would be classic. 

 

Hawaii would be the last holiday for a long time. 

[The Dark Lord]

Why would anyone name a dyke after their wife. Surely the defamation laws apply here or have I misunderstood?

[sharecropper]

9 minutes ago, The Dark Lord said:

Why would anyone name a dyke after their wife. Surely the defamation laws apply here or have I misunderstood?

 

Brilliant. 

[The Dark Lord]

Can you get internet inside the monkey house?

[futsukayoi]

1 hour ago, jamesbrock said:

 

They have indeed, but can't the next administration void that section of the constitution retrospectively? (I don't know, not a rhetorical question.)

 

Of course they can and will (unless they are paid enough not to).

[aussieinthailand]

1 hour ago, NongKhaiKid said:

Will a new govt honour the amnesty or simply overturn it ?

Every administration is more than capable of interpreting the law as they see fit and of course making it up as they go along, depending on who forms the next govt.

PTP in power owe the junta nothing and that's more than likely to manifest itself when it's pay back time.

 

 

I can't see any problems in any future gov't as the military will the deck stacked in their favor. 

Eg;  If we don't approve of your choice of PM we can dissolve gov't.

The junta have demonstrated time and time again that any controversial issues that arise that paints a negative picture of the junta and cohorts is dealt with and the same result is proclaimed, No irregularities/no wrong doing/everything was done correctly/all is above board.

[jamesbrock]

6 minutes ago, aussieinthailand said:

I can't see any problems in any future gov't as the military will the deck stacked in their favor. 

Eg;  If we don't approve of your choice of PM we can dissolve gov't.

The junta have demonstrated time and time again that any controversial issues that arise that paints a negative picture of the junta and cohorts is dealt with and the same result is proclaimed, No irregularities/no wrong doing/everything was done correctly/all is above board.

 

True, if the status quo is maintained. But, as JAG wrote above:

 

1 hour ago, JAG said:

the next administration may well come to power as a result of events which weaken and/or remove the militarys power.

 

We really don't know what shape the country will be in after the next few months. There are alliances and grievances which we aren't allowed to discuss that could set in place machinations which could certainly make parts of the current government accountable for their actions and, indeed, loyalties.

[worgeordie]

Like in "The buck stops here",never happen here,

its always someone elses fault.

regards worgeordie

[waldroj]

"...A leader must be held accountable for the actions of his team..."

 

No truer words said, however it does require a leader who is accountable !!!

 

As for Prayut, well seeing he seems to be enjoying a brief respite, let's just say that he doesn't have anything to worry about, as we are told in this article that all (his associates) "...have denied committing any wrongdoing...".

 

 

So, that's the end of it, right ???

[yellowboat]

Reform ?

[klauskunkel]

3 hours ago, webfact said:

BURNING ISSUE

A leader must be held accountable for the actions of his team

BURNING QUESTION

Who is going to do that?

[NongKhaiKid]

2 hours ago, The Dark Lord said:

Can you get internet inside the monkey house?

Depending on who you are, how much cash you have etc almost anything could be made available I'd suggest

[Brer Fox]

4 hours ago, NongKhaiKid said:

Accountability, Responsibility etc are words all but unheard of here.

 

As military men they should be aware of one of the rules of command which is,

You can delegate your authority but not your responsibility.

 

Doesn't seem to apply here and likely never will.

Correct, but there is an inverse rule which says that military governments can make previous non-military governments accountable and responsible. 

[Eric Loh]

Kudos to the editor Khun Attayuth Bootsripoom not only for this excellent article but for all his previous unbiased articles. He has written on the Dem Party insincerity, question PT amnesty bill and lambasted Meechai for ignoring the principle of democracy in his draft charter. Keep up the good work Khun Attayuth and I hope The Nation recognizes your contribution. 

[NongKhaiKid]

14 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Kudos to the editor Khun Attayuth Bootsripoom not only for this excellent article but for all his previous unbiased articles. He has written on the Dem Party insincerity, question PT amnesty bill and lambasted Meechai for ignoring the principle of democracy in his draft charter. Keep up the good work Khun Attayuth and I hope The Nation recognizes your contribution. 

I wonder when it will be felt necessary to have a word or two in his ear ?

[chainarong]

Let's not confuse Democratic Administrations and a Junta , a junta takes no responsibility , answers to nobody , and governs for itself , nearest example in the world of nature is a parasite.......................................

[Denim]

The current leadership has all the accountability it needs.

 

Everything is Thaksins fault.

 

Issue resolved.

[Laughing Gravy]

13 minutes ago, NongKhaiKid said:

I wonder when it will be felt necessary to have a word or two in his ear ?

I think we could have a book (if it was legal ) on how long it will take before he goes on some professional development, attitude adjustment course.

[Lupatria]

When was the last time you got a straight, honest answer from a Thai after raising the question: "who did this and who is responsible?"

[DM07]

 Thai Leaders....

 Responsible...

...for any actions...