May ready for tough talks over Brexit

[Kwasaki]

10 minutes ago, pegman said:

Just not if you have just bought at the inflated price with borrowed money.

Well that's a point but you would of had to of been in a good secure financial position to be able to do that in UK.

[nauseus]

25 minutes ago, Grouse said:

Yes! It's all over bar the shouting!

Government insiders report...

 

Yet UK civil servants are now said....

 

“We have a problem in that really there are only two viable options,” one official told the Guardian....

 

“What we’ve seen post-election is that business voices that had felt bullied into silence pre-election are recovering their voice,” explained a senior official.....  

 

But reports of the new mood of realism across Whitehall have been confirmed by at least two other officials.....

 

The Brexit secretary’s former chief of staff James Chapman this weekend claimed.....

 

“I don’t know where this will end up,” said one of the official sources....

 

Typical Guardian unsubstantiated tripe but what's new there?? 

 

[onthesoi]

British officials have quietly abandoned hope of securing the government’s promised “cake and eat it” Brexit deal, increasingly accepting the inevitability of a painful trade-off between market access and political control when the UK leaves the EU.

 

The Brexiteers will need every ounce of denial they can muster to get through the next few days.

[nontabury]

13 hours ago, pegman said:

An esteemed economist with the LSE predicts a 40% drop in property prices. There will be thousands of job loses once the E.U. financial industry leaves London which will get the ball rolling.

Would he be one of the esteemed economist who, prior to the vote, predicted that the British economy and the British way of life, would immediately disappear? 

[Flustered]

8 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Would he be one of the esteemed economist who, prior to the vote, predicted that the British economy and the British way of life, would immediately disappear? 

 

Brought to you by Professor Paul Cheshire, the same man who predicts that house prices will rise.

 

He really is betting on both sides. What a total tosser. He also wants to bulldozer over greenfield sites.

One In 20 UK Homes 'Worth £1m By 2030'

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/one-20-uk-homes-worth-1m-2030-031856365.html

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, pegman said:

Thailand, live off your winnings.

Some of us cared not to burn all our boats.

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, pitrevie said:

I think Hammond is the only realist there. At least he knows it is all about the economy. 

Hammond is the only alternative show in town. Those who are thinking Corbyn I am afraid are away with the fairies.

[SheungWan]

18 minutes ago, Flustered said:

 

Brought to you by Professor Paul Cheshire, the same man who predicts that house prices will rise.

 

He really is betting on both sides. What a total tosser. He also wants to bulldozer over greenfield sites.

One In 20 UK Homes 'Worth £1m By 2030'

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/one-20-uk-homes-worth-1m-2030-031856365.html

As a minister I might be tempted to use that bulldozer to turn the whole of Yorkshire into a Northern Disneyworld or something similar. Oh wait!........

Edited July 3, 2017 by SheungWan

[lamyai3]

3 hours ago, SheungWan said:

And your advice if the London mortgage is paid off? Sell and move to Cleethorpes?

 

RIP Rod Temperton... Cleethorpes finest export. 

[lamyai3]

14 hours ago, nauseus said:

 Alex Harvey was a hero of mine.

One of mine too. Vambo comin' to the rescue! 

[Flustered]

13 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

As a minister I might be tempted to use that bulldozer to turn the whole of Yorkshire into a Northern Disneyworld or something similar. Oh wait!........

Yet again, a really useful contribution to the thread courtesy of the Strawman.

[Khun Han]

3 hours ago, mommysboy said:

6 hours ago, Khun Han said:

It's just relentless nowadays :

 

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/think-back-control-borders-don-114400752.html

 

In what respect?

In respect of mainstream media relentlessly pushing remain propaganda.

[Khun Han]

4 hours ago, SheungWan said:

And your advice if the London mortgage is paid off? Sell and move to Cleethorpes?

 

 

Hey, I was in Clee on business a couple of months ago. It has a perfectly adequate Wetherspoons, and a nice Thai bistro on the prom!

[Khun Han]

2 hours ago, pegman said:

Just not if you have just bought at the inflated price with borrowed money.

 

Which is the story of the British property market (and the British economy to a large extent).

[SheungWan]

2 minutes ago, Khun Han said:

 

Hey, I was in Clee on business a couple of months ago. It has a perfectly adequate Wetherspoons, and a nice Thai bistro on the prom!

Well that settles it then. Bumping into you would certainly be an added bonus.

[Khun Han]

11 minutes ago, SheungWan said:

Well that settles it then. Bumping into you would certainly be an added bonus.

 

Wouldn't you get vertigo up in Clee?

[nontabury]

5 hours ago, SheungWan said:

As a minister I might be tempted to use that bulldozer to turn the whole of Yorkshire into a Northern Disneyworld or something similar. Oh wait!........

Cool down man, your obviously over stressed.

 

What  you need is some Yorkshire cordon blue food, washed down with some decent beer.

 

 

Edited July 3, 2017 by nontabury

[mommysboy]

7 hours ago, billd766 said:

 

But surely a drop of 40% in house prices would be a good thing for the UK, especially in and around London where house prices are astronomical. It should allow people to trade up and a knock on effect should follow.

 

Indeed. It should have happened a few years ago at the height of the credit crunch.  It was prevented from happening by QE, and low interest rates, as well as supply outstripping demand, because house building in UK is in a pitiful state.  So what you got what was a managed market which favoured the losers, and shunned the winners, who had no doubt been patiently waiting their turn.  Socialism for the 'haves'.  I'd liken it to a game of snakes and ladders where the losers land on a snake but get to go up a ladder- the housing ladder.

 

But a 40% drop would be associated with a massive recession.  Bad news for everyone.

[Grouse]

4 hours ago, Khun Han said:

 

Hey, I was in Clee on business a couple of months ago. It has a perfectly adequate Wetherspoons, and a nice Thai bistro on the prom!

What more could one want? ?

[mommysboy]

4 hours ago, Khun Han said:

In respect of mainstream media relentlessly pushing remain propaganda.

So it isn't fact, then?  It certainly seems watertight. 

 

The piece seems suggest we already have hold of our borders, and can protect ourselves from the more insidious side of immigration.  The word 'futile' keeps popping up in my mind.

[Flustered]

52 minutes ago, nontabury said:

Cool down man, your obviously over stressed.

 

What  you need is some Yorkshire cordon blue food, washed down with some decent beer.

 

 

It strikes me that what the Strawman needs is friends. He seems a very lonely soul with not much of a social life.

Edited July 3, 2017 by Flustered

[mommysboy]

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-remain-win-new-eu-exit-vote-survation-poll-a7820286.html

 

The outcome of the Brexit referendum would be reversed if it was held tomorrow, a poll suggests.

The Survation survey showed a clear majority of Britons (54 per cent) would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held, while 46 per cent would back Brexit.

 

 

If this continues- and I cant help but think the sentiment to remain will grow- then leaving EU becomes ever more futile.

[vogie]

12 minutes ago, mommysboy said:

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-remain-win-new-eu-exit-vote-survation-poll-a7820286.html

 

The outcome of the Brexit referendum would be reversed if it was held tomorrow, a poll suggests.

The Survation survey showed a clear majority of Britons (54 per cent) would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held, while 46 per cent would back Brexit.

 

 

If this continues- and I cant help but think the sentiment to remain will grow- then leaving EU becomes ever more futile.

 

[SheungWan]

4 hours ago, nontabury said:

Cool down man, your obviously over stressed.

 

What  you need is some Yorkshire cordon blue food, washed down with some decent beer.

 

 

At least its not a Mars Bar!

[SheungWan]

1 hour ago, Flustered said:

I see that your table (the purple one) was empty. eating alone?

 

Fishing again. We always keep a spare seat just in case some resentful Brexit Bore drops in, but they never do. Trip over them in Thailand though.

[dick dasterdly]

11 hours ago, mommysboy said:

 

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-latest-remain-win-new-eu-exit-vote-survation-poll-a7820286.html

 

The outcome of the Brexit referendum would be reversed if it was held tomorrow, a poll suggests.

The Survation survey showed a clear majority of Britons (54 per cent) would vote to Remain in the European Union if another referendum was held, while 46 per cent would back Brexit.

 

 

If this continues- and I cant help but think the sentiment to remain will grow- then leaving EU becomes ever more futile.

Polls were predicting something similar prior to the referendum and, as it turned out, were proven wrong.....

[ilostmypassword]

I think any comment on this is superfluous.

Brexit: Minister appointed to negotiate Britain's withdrawal wants European Union 'wholly torn down'

The newest member of Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating team has been filmed calling for the destruction of the European Union, The Independent can reveal.

In a speech to a right-wing think tank, minister Steve Baker said the EU should be “wholly torn down”, before branding it an “obstacle” to world peace and “incompatible” with a free society.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-european-union-eu-steve-baker-theresa-may-wholly-torn-down-libertarian-alliance-a7820721.html

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

I think any comment on this is superfluous.

Brexit: Minister appointed to negotiate Britain's withdrawal wants European Union 'wholly torn down'

The newest member of Theresa May’s Brexit negotiating team has been filmed calling for the destruction of the European Union, The Independent can reveal.

In a speech to a right-wing think tank, minister Steve Baker said the EU should be “wholly torn down”, before branding it an “obstacle” to world peace and “incompatible” with a free society.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-european-union-eu-steve-baker-theresa-may-wholly-torn-down-libertarian-alliance-a7820721.html

Well it was a comment made in 2010 so there is an opportunity for him to row back from that.

[Grouse]

11 hours ago, SheungWan said:

At least its not a Mars Bar!

Marianne Faithfull is off topic

[SheungWan]

2 hours ago, dick dasterdly said:

Polls were predicting something similar prior to the referendum and, as it turned out, were proven wrong.....

Never mind that, the figures are too close for a momentum for a rerun. Over 60/40 might do it, but even then the question is hardly on the table since Labour is neither arguing for a re-run or even to stay in the Single Market, so somewhat uphill from here.

Edited July 4, 2017 by SheungWan