Popular Post nauseus Posted July 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2017 7 hours ago, SheungWan said: Now that the forum Hard Brexiteers are getting a little bit twitchy about the comments coming out from even the staunchest Brexiteers in the Cabinet about there being the possibility of transitional arrangement deals with the EU rather than just walking out the door (which is what the forum guys would prefer), some of the forum hard core are beginning to loosen that support and edging towards the exit of supporting the government. Probably we will hear a lot more blather about all politicians being this or that during the next month or so. More blather is what we always hear from you. Again no argument against the point posted. You presume to characterize people that just prefer the UK to leave the EU - there was no hard or soft before the referendum - and you just speculate about what you expect to probably hear from them in the next month or so. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post goldenbrwn1 Posted July 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/brexit-european-union-good-news.html Sorry for the Project fearless article. Edited July 31, 2017 by goldenbrwn1 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 5 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/brexit-european-union-good-news.html Sorry for the Project fearless article. I am trying to see all angles now. Thanks for the article which does rather differ from the norm. But what I would say is that while it is right to suppose that UK could well be like Switzerland or Canada, it is rather unrealistic imo to presume that we will just assume such a balance without considerable disruption perhaps for a few years, but equally possibly for a decade. No, the UK is not in the position of a newly formed independent state, yet there are similarities in trading terms. Incidentally, if one wants to see how history repeats itself, then go to BBC podcasts-The Long View, which compares the situation with the Elizabethan trade war when UK (as was) found itself at odds with continental Europe. This ended in a harmful stalemate to all parties and a new trade agreement was arranged eventually; so fingers crossed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 16 minutes ago, goldenbrwn1 said: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/31/opinion/brexit-european-union-good-news.html Sorry for the Project fearless article. Hmm not really, biased opinion piece. I don't see anything good coming out of a deal with the USA. What will we buy? What will we sell? Total mismatch IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 Not showing who likes what diluted the thrust and parry of the discussion. The "like" options are insufficient What about: 1) Erudite contribution, thank you 2) Come 'ere and say that! 3) Well! I never did! 4) Have you finished your homework and so on! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vogie Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Grouse said: Not showing who likes what diluted the thrust and parry of the discussion. The "like" options are insufficient What about: 1) Erudite contribution, thank you 2) Come 'ere and say that! 3) Well! I never did! 4) Have you finished your homework and so on! ? I glad you brought the subject up. What constitutes a 'like' now, if I like a post but don't think it deserves an oscar, can I refrain from pressing the 'cup.' If I press the smiley face is this still a 'like' and if I press the grumpy face will it subtract a 'like' from the posters credits? Edited July 31, 2017 by vogie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/29/2017 at 8:44 AM, dick dasterdly said: I agree with you to a certain extent, but the logical conclusion to your argument is that some people (not enough education/low IQ) shouldn't be allowed to vote - even though they can see what is happening in their own lives! I'd add that some of the most intelligent people I've known, didn't have a clue outside their sphere of intelligence.... Some people try to blindly pin an assumption tail on a donkey ('the logical conclusion is.....') and sadly think they are making a 'most intelligent' comment. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 17 minutes ago, vogie said: I glad you brought the subject up. What constitutes a 'like' now, if I like a post but don't think it deserves an oscar, can I refrain from pressing the 'cup.' If I press the smiley face is this still a 'like' and if I press the grumpy face will it subtract a 'like' from the posters credits? There is so much suffering in this world. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 Bickering escalates over Brexit implications for the N.Ireland/Ireland border. http://tinyurl.com/ycku4mkj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldenbrwn1 Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 (edited) http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/835624/Brexit-news-EU-snubbed-EMA-workers-they-want-stay-London http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/835748/Brexit-news-Britain-faces-521-million-bill-move-EU-medicines-agency http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-40788689 Edited August 1, 2017 by goldenbrwn1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 On 7/31/2017 at 8:13 AM, nauseus said: there was no hard or soft before the referendum - There certainly is now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 3 hours ago, SheungWan said: Bickering escalates over Brexit implications for the N.Ireland/Ireland border. http://tinyurl.com/ycku4mkj Cant recall seeing the Spain Gib border in the news Why is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 1, 2017 Share Posted August 1, 2017 23 minutes ago, melvinmelvin said: Cant recall seeing the Spain Gib border in the news Why is that? it's been mentioned many times..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 4 hours ago, melvinmelvin said: Cant recall seeing the Spain Gib border in the news Why is that? If I was a detective investigating a crime I might follow up on that mystery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 Brexit voters happy for there to be economic pain as the price for Brexit as long as it is not their own family losing their jobs. Shocking news! http://tinyurl.com/y7277gdb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1114595/alice-in-brexitland/ This is particularly good treatise on the subject for those with a serious interest' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 1 hour ago, SheungWan said: Brexit voters happy for there to be economic pain as the price for Brexit as long as it is not their own family losing their jobs. Shocking news! http://tinyurl.com/y7277gdb Prima facie evidence that Brexiters are not the sharpest knives in the drawer. They should be ignored. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 5 hours ago, SheungWan said: Brexit voters happy for there to be economic pain as the price for Brexit as long as it is not their own family losing their jobs. Shocking news! http://tinyurl.com/y7277gdb Its cheper that way Paying the cost of Brexit out of the neighbours pockets 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 5 hours ago, Grouse said: https://www.penguin.co.uk/books/1114595/alice-in-brexitland/ This is particularly good treatise on the subject for those with a serious interest' Available as a podcast. First chapter free. Recommended! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mommysboy Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 17 hours ago, SheungWan said: Brexit voters happy for there to be economic pain as the price for Brexit as long as it is not their own family losing their jobs. Shocking news! http://tinyurl.com/y7277gdb I do wonder whether the Hard Brexiters on this forum are insulated from any economic fallout. Ok for some. It's already hitting home for me. I do understand that during their lives they would have been similarly affected by recessions, yet none so obviously self inflicted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khun Han Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 55 minutes ago, mommysboy said: I do wonder whether the Hard Brexiters on this forum are insulated from any economic fallout. Ok for some. It's already hitting home for me. I do understand that during their lives they would have been similarly affected by recessions, yet none so obviously self inflicted. The fact is, when the next recession hits (and it will hit), the EU will do what's best for the EU (which means primarily Germany). And we will have much-reduced control of our own economic destiny if we remain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Khun Han said: The fact is, when the next recession hits (and it will hit), the EU will do what's best for the EU (which means primarily Germany). And we will have much-reduced control of our own economic destiny if we remain. Better together! You fancy being in a barchetta with Theresa and her crew when the seas get rough? Cue the music please! Edited August 3, 2017 by Grouse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Crisis? What crisis? These so-called crisis have little effect on the average Joe in the street. Having been through devaluations, decimalisation, Exchange rate controls, etc, etc, ad nauseum, it's probably fair to say that the effect on an average individual is insignificant when compared the effect of the "normal" day-to-day dealings everyone has. Since there is no gold-standard anymore - carefully removed so that comparisons can never be made - how do we know what is "worth" more? Apples and pears anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomacht8 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Grouse said: Better together! You fancy being in a barchetta with Theresa and her crew when the seas get rough? Cue the music please! No one knows how Brexit and Europe looks like in 5, 10, 15, 20 years. But Polish and Romanian potatoes eats in times of need everyone. Better to stay together in Europe. Edited August 3, 2017 by tomacht8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
melvinmelvin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 re stay together; in today's Bangkok Post there was an article that addresses "stay together", although from a somewhat different perspective than in the few recent entries above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, jpinx said: Crisis? What crisis? These so-called crisis have little effect on the average Joe in the street. Having been through devaluations, decimalisation, Exchange rate controls, etc, etc, ad nauseum, it's probably fair to say that the effect on an average individual is insignificant when compared the effect of the "normal" day-to-day dealings everyone has. Since there is no gold-standard anymore - carefully removed so that comparisons can never be made - how do we know what is "worth" more? Apples and pears anyone? Costs of living going up higher than income can be a slow burn. Slowly boiling the frog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpinx Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, SheungWan said: Costs of living going up higher than income can be a slow burn. Slowly boiling the frog. Given that people seem to add their bar bill into their "cost of living" , rather than their "luxuries" , it's no surprise that their income can not keep up Edited August 3, 2017 by jpinx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheungWan Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, jpinx said: Given that people seem to add their bar bill into their "cost of living" , rather than their "luxuries" , it's no surprise that their income can not keep up There is a 'given' (regularly re-adjusted) basket of goods which is calculated by the ONS (Office of National Statistics) to generate CPI (the Consumer Price Index). Of course a typical average but it is these figures which are the reference point rather than lazy Brexiteer distractions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouse Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/michael-moore-brexit-comments-uk-enjoy-miserable-life-island-a7878106.html Nail, head, hammer, precision! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nauseus Posted August 5, 2017 Share Posted August 5, 2017 1 hour ago, Grouse said: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/politics/michael-moore-brexit-comments-uk-enjoy-miserable-life-island-a7878106.html Nail, head, hammer, precision! The precision is required first, he's a liberal nutter who thinks Oprah Winfrey should run for office! A complete numpty who will have bruised his thumb several times by judgment day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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