AP-GfK Poll: Clinton appears on cusp of commanding victory

[surangw]

both candidates ( and most of the system) are an imbarrasment 

[JHolmesJr]

On October 27, 2016 at 0:27 PM, Pinot said:

 

Madam President has a nice ring to it. Get use to it. 

 

Madam Inmate sounds more appropriate. 

[JHolmesJr]

6 hours ago, Morch said:

 

Trump himself is on record saying he did some of the things alleged.

And as far as I know there are no "lock him up" chants from the HRC campaign.

 

Thats because lewd behaviour is an indiscretion, not a crime

[Scott]

Troll post removed.

[Morch]

12 hours ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Thats because lewd behaviour is an indiscretion, not a crime

 

Some of the things he bragged about are beyond lewd behavior or an indiscretion.

Some of the things he allegedly did, are criminal.

And there's at least one case pending in court.

[JHolmesJr]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Some of the things he bragged about are beyond lewd behavior or an indiscretion.

Some of the things he allegedly did, are criminal.

And there's at least one case pending in court.

 

Guys dig chicks…well, at least majority of them do.

 

even prince charles has had some muck raked up about his thoughts towards camilla….nobody cares…its perfectly normal.

 

please loosen up and take a chill pill.

 

accusations are just that, until proven beyond reasonable doubt.

[thaibeachlovers]

1 minute ago, Morch said:

 

Some of the things he bragged about are beyond lewd behavior or an indiscretion.

Some of the things he allegedly did, are criminal.

And there's at least one case pending in court.

Some of the things Comey said Clinton did are criminal. Till now she was going to get off free. Perhaps that will change now, but the government propaganda machine is already moving against Comey, so we will have to wait and see if they give her a pass.

[JHolmesJr]

5 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

…. the government propaganda machine is already moving against Comey, so we will have to wait and see if they give her a pass.

 

of course they will but it takes more than 11 days to spin something like this back to normal….irreversible damage done.

[SaintLouisBlues]

2 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

….irreversible damage done.

"Irreversible", eh?

[Morch]

10 minutes ago, JHolmesJr said:

 

Guys dig chicks…well, at least majority of them do.

 

even prince charles has had some muck raked up about his thoughts towards camilla….nobody cares…its perfectly normal.

 

please loosen up and take a chill pill.

 

accusations are just that, until proven beyond reasonable doubt.

 

Guys may like chicks, not all go for grabs, or publicly brag about it.

And not all guys are candidates for US presidency.

 

There are accusations, and there are things Trump bragged about. Not a whole lot of difference between the details.

And then there is a case pending, neatly glossed over.

[Morch]

13 minutes ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Some of the things Comey said Clinton did are criminal. Till now she was going to get off free. Perhaps that will change now, but the government propaganda machine is already moving against Comey, so we will have to wait and see if they give her a pass.

 

Some of the things Comey said Clinton did.

There was an investigation, she wasn't found guilty of committing a crime.

 

Trump supporters do not accept that.

Trump supporters go on about innocent until proven.

Go figure.

 

Sorta like the "rigged" elections thing.

It's only "rigged" if Trump losses.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 30 ตุลาคม 2559 at 11:03 AM, Morch said:

 

Guys may like chicks, not all go for grabs, or publicly brag about it.

And not all guys are candidates for US presidency.

 

There are accusations, and there are things Trump bragged about. Not a whole lot of difference between the details.

And then there is a case pending, neatly glossed over.

You are right but Trump didn't brag about it publicly. He bragged about it in private like normal guys do, and unfortunately he had a hot mike, so it was kept for 5 years till it could be used against him.

[thaibeachlovers]

On 30 ตุลาคม 2559 at 11:06 AM, Morch said:

 

Some of the things Comey said Clinton did.

There was an investigation, she wasn't found guilty of committing a crime.

 

Trump supporters do not accept that.

Trump supporters go on about innocent until proven.

Go figure.

 

Sorta like the "rigged" elections thing.

It's only "rigged" if Trump losses.

It was a Claytons investigation. If it had been a proper investigation she would have had a grand jury about her already.

There was no trial, so wasn't found not guilty. She was given a pass. It would have been better for her if she had been tried and then found not guilty.

 

There's a lot of talk about it being riggged, by the Clinton surrogates, LOL.

 

I'm enjoying this comedy very much. I wonder who they will get to play the candidates in the movie of it?

Edited October 31, 2016 by thaibeachlovers

[iReason]

Just now, thaibeachlovers said:

He bragged about it in private like normal guys do, and unfortunately he had a hot mike, so it was kept for 5 years till it could be used against him.

 

Right.

When his new wife was 3 months pregnant.

"Normal"?

 

" it was kept for 5 years till it could be used against him."

 

  Shocking!

 

This clown, this crass Bloviator continually brings himself down with his own words.

 

Unfit.

Edited October 31, 2016 by iReason

[thaibeachlovers]

18 minutes ago, iReason said:

 

Right.

When his new wife was 3 months pregnant.

"Normal"?

 

" it was kept for 5 years till it could be used against him."

 

  Shocking!

 

This clown, this crass Bloviator continually brings himself down with his own words.

 

Unfit.

You may not understand that just because a male's wife is pregnant, it does not change anything for the male. No biological changes at all.

[Chicog]

1 hour ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are right but Trump didn't brag about it publicly. He bragged about it in private like normal guys do, and unfortunately he had a hot mike, so it was kept for 5 years till it could be used against him.

 

It was kept because TV companies keep their footage for all sorts of reasons.

 

It was remembered because of Alicia Machado and stories about Trump being a sexist idiot on The Apprentice.

 

It would have been an NBC story but someone leaked it to the Post, who scooped them.

[Publicus]

On 10/29/2016 at 4:17 PM, thaibeachlovers said:

So you think Trump is NOT guilty of indecent assault, given that he has not been convicted in a court of law, and it is only their word against his?

 

Trump hasn't been proved guiltly of anything, nor has Trump been charged by prosecutors of any of the sex thingys that are alleged.

 

The allegations against Trump haven't been investigated either. All the same, both Trump and youse guyz seem to not like any of it.

 

Who would like allegations and accusations flying around in any respect. Can't take the heat get out of the kitchen.

[Morch]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

You are right but Trump didn't brag about it publicly. He bragged about it in private like normal guys do, and unfortunately he had a hot mike, so it was kept for 5 years till it could be used against him.

 

It wasn't a private conversation. This was dealt with on numerous posts and topics. He was on a work place, knowingly being recorded. To paraphrase a former Republican president, this deflection will not stand.

 

It wasn't "kept for 5 years till it could be used against him" - can't recall Trump even being seriously mentioned as a candidate at the time. It was kept the way such things are being kept nowadays, everything is on record. For someone so involved with show business and reality TV in particular, no chance he wasn't aware. He just didn't care, or did not see anything wrong with it.

[Morch]

20 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It was a Claytons investigation. If it had been a proper investigation she would have had a grand jury about her already.

There was no trial, so wasn't found not guilty. She was given a pass. It would have been better for her if she had been tried and then found not guilty.

 

There's a lot of talk about it being riggged, by the Clinton surrogates, LOL.

 

I'm enjoying this comedy very much. I wonder who they will get to play the candidates in the movie of it?

 

I doubt that you have more insight than other into what constitutes a "proper investigation", or concerning the relevant legal procedures. As such, your decisive pronouncements on the matter are an opinion, at best.

 

Comey was also in charge of previous investigation, so if that wasn't "proper", why assume the propriety now?

 

There's a lot of talk from Trump and Trump supporters about anything not going his way as being "rigged". Talk doesn't make it so.

 

Those enjoying the comedy are those that would have a weakened USA, without giving much thought to global implications.

 

 

 

[keemapoot]

One of my favorite publications of all time, like an old friend with me everywhere I go in the world, the FT, has endorsed Clinton:

 

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The Financial Times endorsed Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton Monday, calling the former Secretary of State “manifestly more competent” than her Republican opponent, Donald Trump.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/10/financial-times-endorses-hillary-clinton-230526#ixzz4OjAfeuHE 
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[VillageIdiot]

28 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

I doubt that you have more insight than other into what constitutes a "proper investigation", or concerning the relevant legal procedures. As such, your decisive pronouncements on the matter are an opinion, at best.

 

Comey was also in charge of previous investigation, so if that wasn't "proper", why assume the propriety now?

 

There's a lot of talk from Trump and Trump supporters about anything not going his way as being "rigged". Talk doesn't make it so.

 

Those enjoying the comedy are those that would have a weakened USA, without giving much thought to global implications.

 

 

 

The global implications of a weakened USA would be a boon to humanity as long as the war hawks dominate American foreign policy.

[Morch]

5 minutes ago, VillageIdiot said:

The global implications of a weakened USA would be a boon to humanity as long as the war hawks dominate American foreign policy.

 

Thanks for making my point. One liners FTW. No explanation or reasoning offered. No consideration of alternatives, or how the vacuum will be filled.

 

Anarchists, nihilists and haters are may have a ball, yes. Those not on one extreme of the other, perhaps less thrilled with the possibilities.

 

Edited November 1, 2016 by Morch

[VillageIdiot]

2 minutes ago, Morch said:

 

Thanks for making my point.

One liners FTW. No explanation or reasoning offered. No consideration of alternatives, or how the vacuum will be filled.

Anarchists, nihilists and haters are may have a ball, yes. Those not on one extreme of the other, perhaps less thrilled with the possibilities.

 

What was your point?

The comedy of American elections?

H.L.Mencken made it a long time ago.

"Herein, indeed lies the chief merit of American democracy, it may be clumsy, it may be swinish, it may be unutterably incompetent and dishonest, but it is never dismal - its processes, even when they irritate, never actually bore."

[Boon Mee]

This stock market metric says the likely winner is...Trump

 

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/10/31/this-stock-market-metric-says-the-likely-winner-istrump.html

[Morch]

6 hours ago, VillageIdiot said:

What was your point?

The comedy of American elections?

H.L.Mencken made it a long time ago.

"Herein, indeed lies the chief merit of American democracy, it may be clumsy, it may be swinish, it may be unutterably incompetent and dishonest, but it is never dismal - its processes, even when they irritate, never actually bore."

 

More like global stability. Not an idealistic all-is-well fantasy by any means. But way better than anarchy and chaos. Better even than a world dominated by the likes of Russia or China. But that's probably wasted on people imagining the US is as bad as it gets.

[DaddyWarbucks]

3 hours ago, Morch said:

 

More like global stability. Not an idealistic all-is-well fantasy by any means. But way better than anarchy and chaos. Better even than a world dominated by the likes of Russia or China. But that's probably wasted on people imagining the US is as bad as it gets.

American global hegemony resulting in a Pax Americana would be a welcome development if the country wasn't corrupt to the core.

Its political and social institutions are manifest failures at home and its military interventions abroad create appalling devastation.

Global stability?

Yes, we've had it in spades since 9/11.

Anybody pushing that line is selling snake-oil.

[JemJem]

Clinton is so lucky to be facing Trump. If she had been facing for example Rubio or Cruz, she would have been playing catch-up by now, and she would most probably lose.

Trump has offended sooooo many people and has hardly ever put forward any proper policy ideas. I think it is quite unlikely that he will win.

[AYJAYDEE]

6 hours ago, DaddyWarbucks said:

American global hegemony resulting in a Pax Americana would be a welcome development if the country wasn't corrupt to the core.

Its political and social institutions are manifest failures at home and its military interventions abroad create appalling devastation.

Global stability?

Yes, we've had it in spades since 9/11.

Anybody pushing that line is selling snake-oil.

 

stability is a relative term. As is chaos like trump would provide

[Boon Mee]

If Crooked Hillary is on the "cusp of a commanding victory", why are the rats jumping ship?  

 

Michelle Obama has scrubbed all references to Hillary Clinton from both of her Twitter accounts as news breaks that Clinton is under two different FBI investigations involving four FBI offices.

The @FLOTUS account has been wiped clean of all traces of Hillary, and @MichelleObama, a verified page with almost six million followers, has been scrubbed all the way back to 2013.

http://yournewswire.com/michelle-obama-deletes-hillary-clinton-twitter/

[Boon Mee]

Another question regarding the so-called "cusp of a commanding victory"  claim.  If so, why does the Clinton Campaign have to resort to pathetic photoshopped images of their rallys? 

 

Hillary was only able pull in 500 people at an Orlando event.  Her VP, Tim Kaine had about 30 people at another Florida rally, and abruptly canceled another.  

In yet another embarrassing campaign rally turnout, former President Bill Clinton hosted 50 people at Cleveland State University. The rally could have been held in the hallways of a high school!

Here is a Twitter photo of the actual event:

Then through the miracle of modern technology (PhotoShop), a lackluster 50 person event turns into a ‘full house’!

Here is how the event was depicted on Facebook.

 

The young man circled in red is the basis.  Next to him you can see the same bald man in the dark suit.

 

Edited November 1, 2016 by Boon Mee