Thai celebrity speaker denied visa to US

[elgordo38]

Silly lady trying to sneak in the front door. 

[yellowboat]

3 hours ago, halloween said:

Doesn't the US have laws regarding working on a tourist visa? I'm sure they have enough home-grown BS artists.

It is not like Thailand.  Most of the world lets you conduct business activities unfeathered.  Thailand is special of course.  Build a boat in your back yard and face the consequences. 

[elgordo38]

7 minutes ago, malcoml said:

 

Not really. I have never had to show my accounts.

What immigration office is that dumb I want to use them.

[elgordo38]

4 hours ago, scorecard said:

Wonder what she lectures about?

With a face like that sex comes to mind. Surely she should be let in on her good looks alone. Some rich old foreigner will grab her in the states and be her benefactor surely. Better old farang pickings there than here. We are all battle hardened. 

[spidermike007]

4 hours ago, Thechook said:

I'm sure there is some American who will sponsor her for a couple of weeks in exchange for a few tasks around the home.

 

 

There is no such thing as a sponsored visa to the US. That category was done away with many, many years ago. No amount of money from the third party can insure a visa, unless it is a marriage visa, or you are a specialist, applying for a work visa, and you fit into the quota, and have both experience and a degree in that respective field.

 

It is very difficult for the average Thai to get a visa to visit the US. She should be no exception. 

[irwinfc]

is she the only one in Thailand capable of doing whatever it is she intends to do there? if so, does she have to be there in person? surely internet speed here is enough for a remote link. not newsworthy. i wonder why it's here.

[gandalf12]

4 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Well it wont be about how to manage your finances,thats for sure.

regards worgeordie

Could be. Banks are always trying to tell us how to manage our money but seem incapable of doing it for the bank.

[Phuketboy]

All other countries should give Thai's the same visa requirements as they give us.  I have no sympathy 

[SaintLouisBlues]

4 minutes ago, Phuketboy said:

All other countries should give Thai's the same visa requirements as they give us.  I have no sympathy 

Why? If that's the case you may as well do away with each country's immigration policies altogether, because if Thailand unilaterally changes its policies the other country must reciprocate, and vice versa. What if Thailand throws open its doors to Trumpistan, everyone gets visa-free travel and can stay for six months. Thai money girls and boys then flood into Trumpistan to take advantage of the reciprocal visa permissions. You're saying Trumpistan can't decide to have a highly restrictive visa entry policy unless the Thais do too? Or Trumpistan decides that they will offer only a 15-day visa exemption, whereas Thailand sticks with a 30-day visa exemption?

[phycokiller]

this happens all round the world hundreds of times a day, but not everywhere has a grumpy old expats club that thinks this is important news

[canthai55]

Wow !  Some of the posts on here ! She has speaking engagements in two cities. And the FSA will not let her in ?  Being from Canada, and following US poliitics most of my life - why am I not surprised ? Xenophobia anyone ? To go with their feelings for their fellow countrymen ?

[Emster23]

Getting a visa to US for a Thai woman has a snow balls chance in Krabi. Better just to toss $160 out in the street. I'm an American, have many friends who've tried for their Thai partners, as have I. I have nothing good to say about the near impossible hurdles the overpaid poobahs at the embassy are there to enforce.

[sghanchey]

I wonder if she applied for the proper business visitor visa, since she's obviously going there to work and get paid for it. A group of Korean fashion models were turned away recently trying to enter on tourist visas (which they had) when in fact they were going for photo shoots using U.S. tourist landmarks. 

[jcsmith]

I'd guess its going to become a lot more difficult to get a visa in the future, similar to how it was immediately following the World Trade Center attacks. 

[rodroy]

3 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Assuming you're talking about a tourist visa...

 

My wife was approved for her first one a few months ago. She is employed regularly, but the consulate staff weren't particularly interested in that.

 

They were seemingly focused on two other things:

--the formal letter of invitation that I had my father in the U.S. write on behalf of my wife and that we submitted as part of her application.

--the fact that I've been resident in Thailand for many years with a stable history of retirement extensions of stay.

 

BTW, since you mentioned visiting relatives (without specifying whose...) the tourist visa application DOES ask if the Thai applicant has any (I assume they mean blood) relatives or knows anyone living in the U.S. My wife doesn't, but I'm guessing yes answers to either of those questions might raise some doubts.

 

PS - My wife also doesn't own a house or any property in her name, nor is she inordinately wealthy.

 

The main things any embassy wants to know:

-that you know where you're going and why

-who by name you're to visit

-you have a confirmed inbound and outbound reservation

-you have sufficient funds to cover living expenses

-you have some legit connection to whomever you are travelling with

-you have a valid requirement to return to your home country

Supporting DOCS are a must: itinerary, hotel confirmations, rental car confirmations, full address of where you'll spend your first night.

 

 

[twizzian]

I didn't know the Embassies checked your credit scoring when applying for a visa?

Tuff titty on the refusal anyway.

[dundas]

5 hours ago, worgeordie said:

Well it wont be about how to manage your finances,thats for sure.

regards worgeordie

Not sure about that! Why not, for goodness sake? 

[Lingba]

I wonder what type of visa she is applying for...tourist?...work? (since she is in a sense working)

[Chicog]

4 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

Except, the article doesn't say she was denied for seeking a TOURIST visa, just a visa without specifying the type.

 

She could well have been applying for one of the other types that allow limited work, such as B1 or other.
 

 

 

Hmmm that's interesting. I went to a Security conference in Boston last year, and I simply filled out the usual ESTA online for a normal tourist visa.

I told the lady at immigration that I was in town to attend a conference, and she never mentioned a B1 or anything else. Just took my details and stamped me in. And it's not like it came back to bite me in the ar$e either, because I was there for a holiday this year, too.

 

 

[Mook23]

6 hours ago, scorecard said:

Wonder what she lectures about?

sufficiency economy probably...

[natway09]

Love you guys,,,,,, you are all the people complaining about visas & extensions in this country.....

Funny when the boot is on the other foot it is a joke

[Lamkyong]

so sorry luv  back of the queue try again when you meet  the actual requirements

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

29 minutes ago, rodroy said:

The main things any embassy wants to know:

-that you know where you're going and why

-who by name you're to visit

-you have some legit connection to whomever you are travelling with

 

 

The items above I agree about.

 

The ones below, I don't:

 

-you have a confirmed inbound and outbound reservation

[we didn't, because we were awaiting her getting the visa or not  And no one asked her about that at all. ]

 

-you have sufficient funds to cover living expenses

[my wife brought all kinds of financial docs, both her own and mine, but the staff asked for and looked at none of it]

 

-you have a valid requirement to return to your home country

[I don't know what a "valid requirement" means in this situation. In our case, my wife has a multi-year Thai employment contract with substantial penalties if she breaks it. But again, they weren't interested to see that).

 

Supporting DOCS are a must: itinerary, hotel confirmations, rental car confirmations,"

[We had none of that other than our stated plan for a 1+ week trip to visit my father because, again, it all depended on her getting the visa. And, we weren't asked documents regarding any of that.]

 

As I said above, other than the basic verbal interview questions, the only two things they seemed keenly interested in in terms of supporting docs was the letter of invite from my father, and my own history of Thai retirement extensions.

 

Obviously, everyone's application is different, so the Embassy officers may well ask for different things in different situations. I can only speak to our experience in the past couple months.

 

Edited November 16, 2016 by TallGuyJohninBKK

[Moonmoon]

At least they bothered to tell her. In singapore, u can call or email for the longest and no reply or no reason would ever be given to you.

[DavidB4]

It can be very difficult, my countries bureaucracy at it's best! Now with Trumpty Dumpty in there it will probably get even harder. My Thai landlord was denied a visa years ago and now he doesn't want to bother trying again and he's got money that he would end up spending allot of there. Stupid. 

[edwinchester]

6 hours ago, Thechook said:

Farangs have to have a certain amount of money to go to Thailand also.  Works both ways

Really? Never been asked for proof of income or bank statements these last 15 years obtaining Thai visas.

[csabo]

6 hours ago, jaltsc said:

“…does not have regular work..”

 

"Celebrity Speaker"  Is that what they call them these days?

 

Apparently it pays quite well...

 

 

[dotpoom]

6 hours ago, Thechook said:

Farangs have to have a certain amount of money to go to Thailand also.  Works both ways

Members of my family and my Ex come to visit me every year or two from Europe for 30 days at a time, never had to produce anything concerning money? 

[trogers]

I think the first thing the Embassy would check, which they don't diverge, is the credit history and rating of the applicant.

 

Without a credit history means no long term employment.

 

Bad credit history implies high risk on staying beyond the allowed time permitted.

[skippy]

Double Post.

Edited November 16, 2016 by skippy
Double Post.