Time calls Donald Trump ‘President of the Divided States of America’

[Morch]

11 minutes ago, hugocnx said:

No framework here; think you really figured it your way.

 

Right...

 

 

 

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, Jingthing said:

Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance.

For example, the portion of the trump base that is white supremacist is objectively deplorable.

It's OK to hate them. Rational actually.

Some are actually real life modern Nazis.

You're saying it's not OK for people to hate Nazis?

There is nothing defensible whatsoever to a white supremacist ideology. 

That's not the same thing as stating, which nobody has, that all trump supporters are white supremacist.

On the other hand, all trump supporters don't have a problem supporting a president elect that has so frequently sent winks (or stronger) to white supremacists. That's not the same thing as BEING one, but still nothing to brag about.  That portion can accept that as a flaw or perhaps just accept it and not even see it as a flaw, but not that way personally.

 

Of course all potential presidents have flaws. Of course Hillary Clinton had hers too, just very different ones.

 

Those claiming the candidacy and now election of trump has not greatly AGGRAVATED the existing divisions and made them MUCH MUCH worse are clearly either not paying attention or are just being disingenuous. 

 

As far as trump, yes, I'll admit it, I find the idea of him being president massively HORRIFYING. Can he turn my opinion around (and the side of the division that feels similarly)? Very highly doubtful.  He's 70. He is what he is. A con man show business type with a bizarre EGO.

 

 That's our president. God help us. 

 

Is intolerance of indifference intolerance? Like the White Supemacists that settled in Northern Idaho. I don't agree with their ideology at all but as far as I know they are not as a group systematically breaking any laws. They have a right to their beliefs, right of association, right of travel, right to bear arms, etc. I don't spend much time thinking about them. I sometimes liken them to the Zionists that are settling in lands they stole. Only difference being the White Supremacists didn't steal their land. If you dislike both you're an anti-Semite. If you are indifferent to both recognizing you can't do anything about either group personally, you are a supporter of White Supremacists.

 

One of the reasons the Democrats lost is because they engage in too much hyperbole about things that anyone can see just aren't true. I remember how vicious you were during the last election towards Romney. By all accounts a decent enough man, but you cast vile aspersions on him simply because he was the "other one" and not your candidate of choice. That behavior elected Trump. Not White Supremacists, not the uneducated, but YOU and people like you. Your intolerance elected Trump. That's some irony, eh?

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, Morch said:

 

Intolerance of intolerance is not intolerance.

 

Rudeness and hyperbole are not essential for intolerance of intolerance. Regardless of wannabe Jackie Chiles impersonators take.

Sorry, I don't see how I can ever get over how he ran his campaign. Mussolini style rallies just aren't my thing. 

[mania]

12 hours ago, ilostmypassword said:

Train wreck, huh? Eighty months of economic growth, and that's a train wreck? I do remember when the republicans were confidently predictng that if Obama were elected that the stock market would crash and that employers would only be hiring part time because of the ACA?  How did those predictions work out?

 

How did they work out?

About as expected when you plunge the country into debt borrowing 80-85 Billion USD per month

via Quantitive Easing (QE 1, 2, & 3), LTRO, SMP, TWIST, TARP and TALF, in order to bring unemployment down & speed up the economy.

 

 

 

[NeverSure]

9 hours ago, Berkshire said:

 

And here we have another loyal consumer of fake news. 

 

If you want to identify fake news, look at the sources that told you Hillary would win the election.

 

Easy.

 

Cheers.

[NeverSure]

I loved the hacking that occurred in this election.

 

The sound of Democrats hacking up fur balls.

 

Cheers.

[Scott]

29 minutes ago, NeverSure said:

 

If you want to identify fake news, look at the sources that told you Hillary would win the election.

 

Easy.

 

Cheers.

Fake news sites are different from sites that are wrong.   Fake news sites publish articles that with have information that is knowingly incorrect or unsubstantiated.   Linking to them on Thaivisa can earn a suspension. 

[lannarebirth]

6 minutes ago, Scott said:

Fake news sites are different from sites that are wrong.   Fake news sites publish articles that with have information that is knowingly incorrect or unsubstantiated.   Linking to them on Thaivisa can earn a suspension. 

 

There is very little news that isn't "fake" now. There is news from "mainstream" sources to support anybody's previously held point of view. It is opinion dressed up as news and by any definition it is fake news. It may be honest in one regard but omits any inconvenient counter arguments so it can not be considered "news". It's not just wrong, it is intentionally wrong. It is the dishonest "real" news sites that gave license to the "fake" ones.

Edited December 8, 2016 by lannarebirth

[hugocnx]

13 minutes ago, Scott said:

Fake news sites are different from sites that are wrong.   Fake news sites publish articles that with have information that is knowingly incorrect or unsubstantiated.   Linking to them on Thaivisa can earn a suspension. 

I think it is time to reconsider my subscription if TV goes this way.

This is not discussing TV moderation as such. It happens everywhere now.

I deleted all facebook like subscriptions as it seems we are living already in a controlled society. The lesser I can be controlled the freeer I feel.

Told my wife too and she got me suspended for unknown period.

Edited December 8, 2016 by hugocnx

[Scott]

6 minutes ago, hugocnx said:

I think it is time to reconsider my subscription if TV goes this way

Feel free to do so.   We are not nor will be in the business of allowing deliberately false information to be posted.   That's not geared at any political point of view or country, by the way.   The number of fake news sites covers a very, very wide area.  

 

Continuing this discussion will result suspensions.   Please stay on topic.  

[hugocnx]

4 minutes ago, Scott said:

Feel free to do so.   We are not nor will be in the business of allowing deliberately false information to be posted.   That's not geared at any political point of view or country, by the way.   The number of fake news sites covers a very, very wide area.  

 

Continuing this discussion will result suspensions.   Please stay on topic.  

Thank you I will

[Jingthing]

Divided by trump? You betcha!

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/wp/2016/12/08/yes-kellyanne-conway-you-did-provide-a-platform-for-white-supremacism/?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-d%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.e7263de486a8
 

Quote

 

Yes, Kellyanne Conway, you did provide a platform for white supremacy

...

 “If Trump expects the Americans who did not vote for him to accept him as president, he needs to show that he accepts all of them as Americans,” she wrote. “We all have a role to play here. But it’s the winner who carries the burden of taking the lead in uniting the country. It’s the burden of leadership. It’s the burden of being the president of the United States.” And, so far, I’ve seen no evidence of Trump’s ability to meet this urgent challenge.

 

 

[Scott]

A post has been reported and removed due to a questionable source.  

[Stargeezr]

Time magazine just showed us all who  all of their employees  voted  for!

Sad  really for  this magazine.  I would have expected this  from  some  rag 

company.

Geezer

[Scott]

Inflammatory post removed.   Please stay on the topic.  

[lannarebirth]

1 hour ago, Stargrazer9889 said:

Time magazine just showed us all who  all of their employees  voted  for!

Sad  really for  this magazine.  I would have expected this  from  some  rag 

company.

Geezer

 

There's a real divide in America between those who picked their college major because they were unable to pass Calculus and those who could. Those who were unable to pass Calculus decided to become Communications, Journalism, English, Elementary Education, Psychology majors. All of them, a dime a dozen. Those are the people that can't actually DO anything but write about what others should do. Give their pronouncements no more attention than they deserve. 

[Silurian]

Don the Prez is planning to stay on as the executive producer for Celebrity Apprentice on NBC. I am sure it has nothing to do with putting pressure on NBC to make sure no other outtakes from Access Hollywood (aka bus video) or from Celebrity Apprentice come to light. Got to keep that "locker talk" from getting out and dividing the country into "da good ole boys" and "the elites".

 

Donald Trump will remain EP on 'Celebrity Apprentice'

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/08/media/trump-apprentice-ep/index.html

 

[Saastrajaa]

23 hours ago, NeverSure said:

 

You don't recall how the MSM let Hillary approve their articles before they published them?

 

 

 

When will the low-IQ idiots stop spreading these FALSE rumors?  "We don't recall" because it didn't happen:

 

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-before-debate/

[lannarebirth]

5 minutes ago, Saastrajaa said:

 

When will the low-IQ idiots stop spreading these FALSE rumors?  "We don't recall" because it didn't happen:

 

http://www.snopes.com/clinton-received-debate-questions-week-before-debate/

 

I'll see your Snopes and raise you some inconvenient truths:

 

http://heatst.com/politics/wikileaks-times-media-bias/

 

http://www.charismanews.com/politics/elections/60641-wikileaks-politico-reporter-sent-article-to-clinton-campaign-for-approval

 

http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/03/politico-reporter-gets-caught-again-sending-a-story-to-a-clinton-staffer-for-approval/

 

https://medium.com/@Starkweather/new-york-times-edited-bernie-sanders-article-for-clinton-campaign-5156a43755ca#.boc8wj8uh

 

There are more examples...

[lemonjelly]

I don't think he really cares about the US or its people, he's merely obsessed with power and money.



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[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, thai3 said:

I do hope he makes burning the flag illegal, liberal protesters love shitting on the country they claim to love

The founding fathers of the United States would be horrified by the kind of religious awe that some people on the right have for the American flag. The notion of treating it as something sacred is in effect an endorsement of the state as a religion. Here's what that evil liberal, Antonin Scalia opined on the subject:

   "If I were king, I would not allow people to go around burning the American flag. However, we have a First Amendment, which says that the right of free speech shall not be abridged -- and it is addressed in particular to speech critical of the government," Scalia said. "That was the main kind of speech that tyrants would seek to suppress."

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/politics/flag-burning-constitutional-donald-trump/

From beyond the grave did Antonin Scalia just call Donald Trump a tyrant?

[RawboneFunksta]

Try telling that piece of Marxist rhetoric to the families of those who have died fighting under that flag.

In a PC world in which millions of fools attempt to block free speech because their feelings are hurt it is the ultimate self indulgence that they do not consider the feelings of others when burning the flag

[Scott]

An off-topic post has been removed.   Please stay on topic.  

[ilostmypassword]

7 minutes ago, RawboneFunksta said:

Try telling that piece of Marxist rhetoric to the families of those who have died fighting under that flag.

In a PC world in which millions of fools attempt to block free speech because their feelings are hurt it is the ultimate self indulgence that they do not consider the feelings of others when burning the flag

Any individual  is free to consider the feelings of others and decide not to hurt them.  It's the government that isn't free to limit 2nd amendment rights. Maybe you should hold a seance and get it straight from Antonin Scalia.

[RawboneFunksta]

Ha Ha ok, I will try to channel him!

[lannarebirth]

5 minutes ago, ilostmypassword said:

Any individual  is free to consider the feelings of others and decide not to hurt them.  It's the government that isn't free to limit 2nd amendment rights. Maybe you should hold a seance and get it straight from Antonin Scalia.

 

I think you mean 1st Amendment rights, but otherwise I agree with you. Protect people, not symbols.

[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, RawboneFunksta said:

Ha Ha ok, I will try to channel him!

Or you can see him speak on the subject here: http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/29/politics/flag-burning-constitutional-donald-trump/

[ilostmypassword]

1 minute ago, lannarebirth said:

 

I think you mean 1st Amendment rights, but otherwise I agree with you. Protect people, not symbols.

I did mean that. Thanks.

[55Jay]

Trump is Time's Man of the Year.  Ranks right up there with Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, which even he joked about recently as still not knowing why he was nominated and won it. 

 

[ilostmypassword]

2 minutes ago, 55Jay said:

Trump is Time's Man of the Year.  Ranks right up there with Obama's Nobel Peace Prize, which even he joked about recently as still not knowing why he was nominated and won it. 

 

Actually, it's not an endorsement.  In 1938 Time's Man of the Year was Adolf Hitler. In 1939 it was Joseph Stalin.