CIA says Russia helped Donald Trump win the White House

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CIA says Russia helped Donald Trump win the White House

 

 

A secret CIA report says Russia interfered in last month’s US election with the aim of helping Donald Trump win.

 

Citing intelligence officials, The Washington Post claims individuals with close connections to Moscow provided hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and a key aide of Hillary Clinton to anti-secrecy website Wikileaks.

 

While Trump’s transition team has dismissed the CIA’s findings, by simply saying the same people said Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction, the Obama White House has ordered a review.

 

White House spokesman Eric Shultz said: “The president earlier this week instructed the intelligence community to conduct a full review of the pattern of malicious cyber activity related to our presidential election cycle. So he’s requested this report be completed and submitted to him before the end of his term.”

In October, the US government formally accused Russia of cyber attacks against the Democratic Party ahead of the November 8 vote.

 

Democrats claim the hacks were a deliberate attempt to damage Hillary Clinton’s election campaign.

 

A CIA has not formally commented on the matter.

 

The Kremlin has repeatedly denied all accusations of interfering in the US election.

 

 

-- © Copyright Euronews 2016-12-11

 

[Jingthing]

No worries. trump doesn't trust the CIA. He's got Breitbart.com and Infowars.

[craigt3365]

27 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

No worries. trump doesn't trust the CIA. He's got Breitbart.com and Infowars.

And a 400 pound guy sitting in his bed in New Jersey that probably did all this.

[RickBradford]

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A secret CIA report says

 

Doesn't seem to be that secret if they're handing it out to their favorite media outlets.....

 

As for "damaging" Hillary Clinton's campaign, she didn't need any help with that.

[craigt3365]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.9f37a668eb0b

 

 

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Secret CIA assessment says Russia was trying to help Trump win White House

 

The CIA has concluded in a secret assessment that Russia intervened in the 2016 election to help Donald Trump win the presidency, rather than just to undermine confidence in the U.S. electoral system, according to officials briefed on the matter.

 

Intelligence agencies have identified individuals with connections to the Russian government who provided WikiLeaks with thousands of hacked emails from the Democratic National Committee and others, including Hillary Clinton’s campaign chairman, according to U.S. officials. Those officials described the individuals as actors known to the intelligence community and part of a wider Russian operation to boost Trump and hurt Clinton’s chances.

 

 

[lannarebirth]

18 minutes ago, craigt3365 said:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.9f37a668eb0b

 

 

While this is certainly a national security issue that needs addressing quickly and in strong terms, I don't really see it as an election issue. I think all this was pretty much known before the election. Are their some new allegations that Trump's team or in fact any Americans were complicit in this hacking? Boy, would that be a mess if there had been.

[ilostmypassword]

46 minutes ago, RickBradford said:

 

Doesn't seem to be that secret if they're handing it out to their favorite media outlets.....

 

As for "damaging" Hillary Clinton's campaign, she didn't need any help with that.

But she got it anyway.

[thaibeachlovers]

Are people more upset because they think HRC was undone by the truth, or the apparent fact that Russia can bypass American security systems?

 

I don't think HRC lost because of WikiLeaks- I think she lost because she was fundamentally disliked by the people of middle America.

 

[craigt3365]

1 minute ago, thaibeachlovers said:

Are people more upset because they think HRC was undone by the truth, or the apparent fact that Russia can bypass American security systems?

 

I don't think HRC lost because of WikiLeaks- I think she lost because she was fundamentally disliked by the people of middle America.

 

Both candidates were disliked by a majority of the population! LOL

[Calach]

A secret report that of course leaked.

 

I didn't imagine democrats were such bad losers, perhaps when they stop whining about how unfair it is they could start reflecting on how they managed to lose the unlosable.

[Usernames]

So how many of the Wikileaks reports were not true?  If that answer is zero, then this is all just a McCarthyistic diversion from the collusion between the Democrats and the mainstream news media. And, apparently, just as Obama got the IRS to go after his enemies, he is now using the CIA to go after domestic political opponents.

[ilostmypassword]

7 minutes ago, Usernames said:

So how many of the Wikileaks reports were not true?  If that answer is zero, then this is all just a McCarthyistic diversion from the collusion between the Democrats and the mainstream news media. And, apparently, just as Obama got the IRS to go after his enemies, he is now using the CIA to go after domestic political opponents.

Except that it seems the Russians also hacked into the Republican emails but chose not to release that information.

[Usernames]

Just now, ilostmypassword said:

Except that it seems the Russians also hacked into the Republican emails but chose not to release that information.

 

Haven't seen that. Please provide a source so I can look it up.

[ilostmypassword]

30 minutes ago, Usernames said:

 

Haven't seen that. Please provide a source so I can look it up.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/12/09/us/obama-russia-election-hack.html

 

 

[craigt3365]

57 minutes ago, Usernames said:

So how many of the Wikileaks reports were not true?  If that answer is zero, then this is all just a McCarthyistic diversion from the collusion between the Democrats and the mainstream news media. And, apparently, just as Obama got the IRS to go after his enemies, he is now using the CIA to go after domestic political opponents.

Nobody knows the answer to this.  One reason Wikileaks isn't really a good source of info.  It causes more problems than solves.  But gives great fodder to those who are anti-West/anti-establishment.

 

Link please showing where Obama got the IRS to after his enemies, same with CIA.  Credible links only, please.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/05/opinion/what-were-missing-while-we-obsess-over-john-podestas-email.html

WikiLeaks Isn’t Whistleblowing

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Whistle-blowing, as Mr. Ellsberg did, is a time-honored means for exposing the secret machinations of the powerful. But the release of huge amounts of hacked data, with no apparent oversight or curation, does the opposite. Such leaks threaten our ability to dissent by destroying privacy and unleashing a glut of questionable information that functions, somewhat unexpectedly, as its own form of censorship, rather than as a way to illuminate the maneuverings of the powerful.

 

 

[Guest]

I find it rather odd that the people who chanted "USA! USA! USA!" during Trump rallies are now openly pro-Russia against USA's own intelligence agencies. 

 

Someone might say that these people have been played. 

 

The next season of TV series "The Americans" might just be replaced with the news reports from the Whitehouse. 

[Ianatlarge]

Looks to me as if the Soviet, apols, the Russian dictator played hard and influenced the US election. It would not be the first time that a foreign power has influenced domestic elections. Also, even the brief recount showed just how ludicrous is the US electoral system. How about a second election? Fly over a batch of Australian electoral officials to show how it is done.

[hansnl]

2 hours ago, Calach said:

A secret report that of course leaked.

 

I didn't imagine democrats were such bad losers, perhaps when they stop whining about how unfair it is they could start reflecting on how they managed to lose the unlosable.

Simple.

By fielding a candidate tainted by the exploits of a former president who happened to be her husband.

As such, she should never had been able to even become a candidate.

Also, the current president from the same party, did not really was a flying success, was he.

He, on the other hand, managed to make the world a much unsafer place.

And is regrettable indeed.

[craigt3365]

6 minutes ago, Ianatlarge said:

Looks to me as if the Soviet, apols, the Russian dictator played hard and influenced the US election. It would not be the first time that a foreign power has influenced domestic elections. Also, even the brief recount showed just how ludicrous is the US electoral system. How about a second election? Fly over a batch of Australian electoral officials to show how it is done.

Or not.  Doing elections like this on a large scale isn't easy.

 

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-07-07/election-2016-widespread-ballot-issues-around-australia/7577548

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The Australian Electoral Commission (AEC) and the voting system have come under intense scrutiny as reports of ballot issues in several seats continue to emerge

 

[BuaBS]

That must bite them in the a@@. The Russians doing to them what they ( the US ...thru CIA) have done to every other country's elections.

 

[craigt3365]

Just now, BuaBS said:

That must bite them in the a@@. The Russians doing to them what they ( the US ...thru CIA) have done to every other country's elections.

 

When did the US hack an election campaign email server and put the data online for the world to see?

[BuaBS]

Just now, craigt3365 said:

When did the US hack an election campaign email server and put the data online for the world to see?

I meant influencing & manipulating other country's elections . I didn't specify the means to do it.

[Calach]

4 minutes ago, hansnl said:

Simple.

By fielding a candidate tainted by the exploits of a former president who happened to be her husband.

As such, she should never had been able to even become a candidate.

Also, the current president from the same party, did not really was a flying success, was he.

He, on the other hand, managed to make the world a much unsafer place.

And is regrettable indeed.

 

In spite of his shortcomings and errors of appreciation, Obama will be regarded by history as the best US president for the last 30 years, at least. Hopefully Trump won't destroy everything he did. And the world becoming a more dangerous place is mainly the backfire of Bush' actions and more generally US policy since the end of the Cold war. He, for the most part, did damage control. 

 

However he and the democrats can indeed blame themselves for choosing Clinton and their attitude during the campaign.

[Calach]

4 minutes ago, Ireland32 said:

And you don't think the Trumpanzees, would have been screaming bloody murder , Please

 

Well we will never know, will we. 

[craigt3365]

18 minutes ago, BuaBS said:

I meant influencing & manipulating other country's elections . I didn't specify the means to do it.

 

And you think other countries don't do this?

http://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/finger-pointed-at-russians-in-alleged-coup-plot-in-montenegro/

 

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Finger pointed at Russians in alleged coup plot in Montenegro

 

Montenegrin authorities say two Russians carrying passports in the names of Eduard Shirikov and Vladimir Popov commanded the botched plot.

 

 

[MadDog2020]

4 hours ago, lannarebirth said:

 

While this is certainly a national security issue that needs addressing quickly and in strong terms, I don't really see it as an election issue. I think all this was pretty much known before the election. Are their some new allegations that Trump's team or in fact any Americans were complicit in this hacking? Boy, would that be a mess if there had been.

 

Is this the "Fake News" that everyone is up in arms about?

[Emster23]

Trump doesn't have the intelligence to know he need intelligence. If he were responsible adult, he would be putting in time learning about how American government is supposed to work instead of flitting about on his "victory tour". But narcissists never have enough adulation, are never wrong and know more than anyone.

[ilostmypassword]

13 minutes ago, MadDog2020 said:

Secret?  Then who leaked it to the press?  What else would you expect from a lame duck liberal administration and liberals that simply will not accept that Hillary is a crook and people don't want 4 more years of Obama.

Do you understand that a lot more people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Trump?  Or is that your idea of "Fake News", too?

[Krataiboy]

What a pity John Kennedy was assassinated before he could destroy this filthy nest of vipers.

[PattayaBoy]

Do you understand that a lot more people voted for Hillary Clinton than voted for Trump?  Or is that your idea of "Fake News", too?

There are 3,141 counties in the United States.
Trump won 3,084 of them.
Clinton won 57.
There are 62 counties in New York State.
Trump won 46 of them.
Clinton won 16.
Clinton won the popular vote by approx. 1.5 million votes.
In the 5 counties that encompass NYC, (Bronx, Brooklyn, Manhattan, Richmond & Queens) Clinton received well over 2 million more votes than Trump. (Clinton only won 4 of these counties; Trump won Richmond)
Therefore these 5 counties alone, more than accounted for Clinton winning the popular vote of the entire country.
These 5 counties comprise 319 square miles.
The United States is comprised of 3, 797,000 square miles.
When you have a country that encompasses almost 4 million square miles of territory, it would be ludicrous to even suggest that the vote of those who inhabit a mere 319 square miles should dictate the outcome of a national election.
Large, densely populated Democrat cities (NYC, Chicago, LA, etc) don’t and shouldn’t speak for the rest of our country.

Amen.