Do I need re entry permit with non O 1 yr multi entry Visa?

[Bobm1]

I got the 1 year Non O Multi entry visa in Penang yesterday and when I entered at Suvarnabhumi last night the immigration officer stamped me for 90 days stay, I need to leave the country for work next week and will be gone 1 month, a friend told me that I'll still need to get a re entry permit before I leave to keep the visa valid, is it true? It doesn't sound right, I think that with the multi entry I should be able to come and go as many times as I need until the Visa expires in Dec 2017.

  

[Upnotover]

Not needed, you can come and go as you as often as you like and every time you enter will get 90 days.

[ubonjoe]

You have a multiple entry non-o visa which allows unlimited 90 day entries for a year. No need for a re-entry permit.

[IMA_FARANG]

Yes that is correct.

But although this seems obvious people have been confused before by it,

There is a "must enter before" date on your visa whic is uually one year after you originally recieved that visa.

That date is the effective expieation date of your one year visa.

Each entry on your visa duing that one year will get you a 90 day "permission to stay" entry stamp in your passport.

Even if it is the kast day of our ine year visa before it expires.

If you are out of country past that expiration date your visa expires and you can not re-enter Thailand on that expired visa.

[overherebc]

As an add on.

Your enter by date 27/12/2017, if you leave Thailand and re-enter just before that date you will still get 90 days meaning it will take you through to March 2018.

If you go out and return to Thailand during Jan/Feb 2018 you will then need a re-entry permit to keep the remaining days.

[zeichen]

re-entry permits are for people with extensions of stay not for 1 year "multiple entry". hence the name. Unless you extended your stay for one year on that visa. wow 750 ringit Used to be only 500 just a few years back. 

[overherebc]

2 minutes ago, zeichen said:

re-entry permits are for people with extensions of stay not for 1 year "multiple entry". hence the name. Unless you extended your stay for one year on that visa. wow 750 ringit Used to be only 500 just a few years back. 

 

Wrong.

[overherebc]

 

If you have 90 days added just before the enter by date you will need a re-entry to keep them. On re-entry you will however only be stamped in again up to that date.

[Suradit69]

42 minutes ago, zeichen said:

Unless you extended your stay for one year on that visa. wow

 

Since the visa is valid until December next year he wouldn't get an extension of stay. If applied for an extension they'd probably tell him to come back in a year/

[ubonjoe]

38 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

 

Since the visa is valid until December next year he wouldn't get an extension of stay. If applied for an extension they'd probably tell him to come back in a year/

Wrong

He can apply for an extension of stay during the last 30 days of any of the 90 entries he gets from the visa. Note it is an extension of stay not the visa.

[zeichen]

 

16 hours ago, Suradit69 said:

 

Since the visa is valid until December next year he wouldn't get an extension of stay. If applied for an extension they'd probably tell him to come back in a year/

 

The 90 days for each entry is different than the expiration date of the multiple entry visa.  As Ubonjoe stated it is extending the period of stay not the visa.

[zeichen]

16 hours ago, overherebc said:

 

If you have 90 days added just before the enter by date you will need a re-entry to keep them. On re-entry you will however only be stamped in again up to that date.

 

 

I don't understand what you are talking about. You cannot add 90 days to the visa.  The visa is  90days multiple entry with a one year expiration date.  You can leave the country as many times as you want during that year, but you can only stay 90 days at a time, unless you extend your stay at immigration. But you don't need a re-entry permit as it is a multiple entry visa which is why it is more expensive.

[overherebc]

5 minutes ago, zeichen said:

 

 

I don't understand what you are talking about. You cannot add 90 days to the visa.  The visa is  90days multiple entry with a one year expiration date.  You can leave the country as many times as you want during that year, but you can only stay 90 days at a time, unless you extend your stay at immigration. But you don't need a re-entry permit as it is a multiple entry visa which is why it is more expensive.

 

If you leave and return the day before the 'enter before date' you get another 90 days. In this case 90 days from 26th december 2017. That will give you permission to stay until about the third week in March 2018.

If you leave during those days and return, 

a. without a re-entry permit all you will get is a 30 day visa exempt.

b. If you leave for a week, say in January and you get a re-entry permit you will be stamped in again until the third week in March.

[overherebc]

4 hours ago, overherebc said:

 

If you leave and return the day before the 'enter before date' you get another 90 days. In this case 90 days from 26th december 2017. That will give you permission to stay until about the third week in March 2018.

If you leave during those days and return, 

a. without a re-entry permit all you will get is a 30 day visa exempt.

b. If you leave for a week, say in January and you get a re-entry permit you will be stamped in again until the third week in March.

 

Plus, if he is married, after the last 90 days that finish in March, he can go to Imm' with his wife her ID and a couple of other things and get another 60 days, making almost 17 months on that visa.

[ThaiWai]

4 hours ago, zeichen said:

 

 

I don't understand what you are talking about. You cannot add 90 days to the visa.  The visa is  90days multiple entry with a one year expiration date.  You can leave the country as many times as you want during that year, but you can only stay 90 days at a time, unless you extend your stay at immigration. But you don't need a re-entry permit as it is a multiple entry visa which is why it is more expensive.

 

Wrong.  If he leaves and returns one day before the one year expiration/enter before date he will receive and a 90 day stamp effectively making it a 15 month visa minus semantics and hair splitting and any such immigration extension you claim is either available or required.  In this scenario, no re-entry permit would be needed for the first 12 months but it would be required for the last 90 days to keep it alive.

[Suradit69]

16 hours ago, ubonjoe said:

Wrong

He can apply for an extension of stay during the last 30 days of any of the 90 entries he gets from the visa. Note it is an extension of stay not the visa.

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Since the visa is valid until December next year he wouldn't get an extension of stay. If applied for an extension they'd probably tell him to come back in a year/

 

WRONG

 

I didn't say he COULDN'T apply for one, I said he WOULDN'T and that if he did apply, he''d PROBABLY be told to wait until his valid visa was about to expire. There would be little logic for most sensible people to get a one year multi-entry visa and then get an unnecessary extension of stay and I assumed he knew what he was doing when he went to the trouble of getting the visa.

 

I COULD jump off my balcony, but I WOULDN'T and if I announced my intention to jump someone would PROBABLY tell me not to do it.

 

You seem to be overly eager to misinterpret and criticize.

 

 

 

[ubonjoe]

8 minutes ago, Suradit69 said:

WRONG

 

I didn't say he COULDN'T apply for one, I said he WOULDN'T and that if he did apply, he''d PROBABLY be told to wait until his valid visa was about to expire. 

 

I COULD jump off my balcony, but I WOULDN'T and if I announced my intention to jump someone would PROBABLY tell me not to do it.

 

You seem to be overly eager to misinterpret and criticize.

 

 

 

 

17 hours ago, Suradit69 said:

 

Since the visa is valid until December next year he wouldn't get an extension of stay. If applied for an extension they'd probably tell him to come back in a year/

Sorry but I think both statements mean that he would not be able to get one.

[machans88]

my multi entry expires april 5th, if i leave march 5th, come back 12march i will get 90days into june, i want to leave again ont the 2april and return 10 april, is my visa still valid until june or only 30 days from april 10?

[ubonjoe]

6 minutes ago, machans88 said:

my multi entry expires april 5th, if i leave march 5th, come back 12march i will get 90days into june, i want to leave again ont the 2april and return 10 april, is my visa still valid until june or only 30 days from april 10?

You would only get a 30 day visa exempt entry if you enter after April 2nd.

If you got a re-entry permit at immigration before making your trip you would be stamped in until June.

[machans88]

1 minute ago, ubonjoe said:

You would only get a 30 day visa exempt entry if you enter after April 2nd.

If you got a re-entry permit at immigration before making your trip you would be stamped in until June.

i turn 50 in may, if i do the re entry, i can then apply for non o based on retirement?

[ubonjoe]

5 minutes ago, machans88 said:

i turn 50 in may, if i do the re entry, i can then apply for non o based on retirement?

Yes if you can meet the financial requirements.

If you got a re-entry permit to keep your entry valid you could apply for the extension of stay based upon retirement at immigration during the last 30 days of that entry.

[Bobm1]

21 hours ago, IMA_FARANG said:

Yes that is correct.

But although this seems obvious people have been confused before by it,

There is a "must enter before" date on your visa whic is uually one year after you originally recieved that visa.

That date is the effective expieation date of your one year visa.

Each entry on your visa duing that one year will get you a 90 day "permission to stay" entry stamp in your passport.

Even if it is the kast day of our ine year visa before it expires.

If you are out of country past that expiration date your visa expires and you can not re-enter Thailand on that expired visa.

Thanks for the clarification, that's what I thought. I think the confusion comes from so many posts regarding re entry permits for the 1 year extensions.

[mercman24]

need a beer, i am confused just by reading these posts. yes you can. no you can't