I have only one word for this - PATHETIC!

Yes, and I'm a better singer than George Jones.

The hierarchy and Thai authorities must be well aware of western world driving standards and driver education . Also the patrol of highways and automatic number plate recognition cameras . All of these mentioned help to reduce accidents and get the baddies off the road but for some reason they are not considered . The first action I would take would be to remove all u turns where possible . The problem is do you want to adopt the western systems and become a nanny state ?

10 minutes ago, superal said:

ll of these mentioned help to reduce accidents and get the baddies off the road but for some reason they are not considered.

There's no money in it for them. Besides, very few Thais die if they're in a motorcade

I passed about 10 of those tents with policemen and none of them did anything...they are all sitting and watching a laptop.

 

Guess they are practising (while still getting paid) for their inactive post in the future...or maybe they were officially on inactive posts?

 

 

On 31/12/2016 at 2:42 PM, ChrisY1 said:

A bit late Mr PM...day 2 has already gone and well over 110 people dead.....

It just appears year after year....civilian government or military, that no-one cares about these dreadful figures.....and each year it worsens.

No experience anywhere in the government, police or the civilians, about road safety......no-one has any idea!

There's no money to be made in road safety. The issue is simply brushed under the carpet.

15 minutes ago, khomlong1 said:

There's no money to be made in road safety. The issue is simply brushed under the carpet.

 

No money to be made,  but plenty to be saved in reducing the stress on limited medical resources.

1 hour ago, fruitman said:

I passed about 10 of those tents with policemen and none of them did anything...they are all sitting and watching a laptop.

 

Guess they are practising (while still getting paid) for their inactive post in the future...or maybe they were officially on inactive posts?

 

 

 

The tents are generally manned by community volunteers whose role is not readily apparent, to me anyway.

Where I live, the police are too busy working security at nightly concerts to do any actual police work.

12 minutes ago, vincent13 said:

 

The tents are generally manned by community volunteers whose role is not readily apparent, to me anyway.

Where I live, the police are too busy working security at nightly concerts to do any actual police work.

 

I see, well i saw them wearing uniforms in the tent but don't know what they mean.

 

At Central World during NY there was loads and loads of police, they even had real motobikes ready to go, a whole row of them. Also there were other armed special forces, they looked like well trained/fed young men on patrol, i had never seen them before....also there were soldiers on patrol. And of course the 4GS securitymen everywhere.

 

Strange that the police is busy with concerts in Thailand, the guys in tents could just stop the traffic and make them blow in the alcoholtester. Or check their vehicles for faillures/paperwork.

 

There are many drunk drivers on the roads at night in BKK, especially the backroads. My friends know exactly where the police is active and they know exactly how to avoid their checkpoints. Some of them even went home at 10pm because now there was no way to avoid them they said. They still drink and drive of course, also the young girls do it.

On ‎12‎/‎31‎/‎2016 at 2:28 PM, rooster59 said:

notably those driving with no licenses.

 

I never been asked to show a license when I got stopped and fined, for some traffic violation, when riding my motorbike.

Good thing as I don't have any for a motorcycle and I drive a motorbike for about 30 years on a daily basis for short stretch to the market or 7/11 for example. I'm not sorry.

Edited January 1, 20179 yr by bandito
inserting one more word

13 hours ago, superal said:

The hierarchy and Thai authorities must be well aware of western world driving standards and driver education . Also the patrol of highways and automatic number plate recognition cameras . All of these mentioned help to reduce accidents and get the baddies off the road but for some reason they are not considered . The first action I would take would be to remove all u turns where possible . The problem is do you want to adopt the western systems and become a nanny state ?

 

I don't see a problem with a "nanny state" if it minimizes road trauma, which is a terrible waste of lives at a huge cost (financial and otherwise) to the community. There is no upside to road trauma.

 

 

 

Edited January 2, 20179 yr by lvr181
additional comment

15 minutes ago, lvr181 said:

 

I don't see a problem with a "nanny state" if it minimizes road trauma, which is a terrible waste of lives at a huge cost (financial and otherwise) to the community. There is no upside to road trauma.

 

 

 

I agree with you , it's a terrible waste of lives and forecastable year on year . Seems to be an accepted part of the culture here .  The point of the  " nanny state  " was that many expats come here to get away from that and  " big brother " .  I suppose it's not so easy to adapt to lower standards of health and safety across the board . There is little that we can do to help change things bar teaching those close to you good driving skills and driver awareness . It would be a wonderful thing if driver education was on the curriculum at schools starting from an early age and progressing till the legal age of using the roads which I believe is 15 years of age . I have seen children younger than that riding a moped arriving at their school with an even younger passenger or 2 and it is tolerated by all , it seems . Who owns the moped ? I think we all know that .

18 hours ago, steve187 said:

post on here always worth watching

 

I could do that everyday, but TV would need more bandwidth. 

On 1/1/2017 at 11:08 PM, Wilsonandson said:

Looks like it's advisable to have your missus drive your vehicle during the New Year holiday. Even if you've done nothing wrong the Bib have been given the go ahead by the PM.

They would need x-ray vision to see your licence.

13 hours ago, fruitman said:

 

I see, well i saw them wearing uniforms in the tent but don't know what they mean.

 

At Central World during NY there was loads and loads of police, they even had real motobikes ready to go, a whole row of them. Also there were other armed special forces, they looked like well trained/fed young men on patrol, i had never seen them before....also there were soldiers on patrol. And of course the 4GS securitymen everywhere.

 

Strange that the police is busy with concerts in Thailand, the guys in tents could just stop the traffic and make them blow in the alcoholtester. Or check their vehicles for faillures/paperwork.

 

There are many drunk drivers on the roads at night in BKK, especially the backroads. My friends know exactly where the police is active and they know exactly how to avoid their checkpoints. Some of them even went home at 10pm because now there was no way to avoid them they said. They still drink and drive of course, also the young girls do it.

The police at concerts are there for other reasons,i thought that would be obvious.

7 hours ago, superal said:

I agree with you , it's a terrible waste of lives and forecastable year on year . Seems to be an accepted part of the culture here .  The point of the  " nanny state  " was that many expats come here to get away from that and  " big brother " .  I suppose it's not so easy to adapt to lower standards of health and safety across the board . There is little that we can do to help change things bar teaching those close to you good driving skills and driver awareness . It would be a wonderful thing if driver education was on the curriculum at schools starting from an early age and progressing till the legal age of using the roads which I believe is 15 years of age . I have seen children younger than that riding a moped arriving at their school with an even younger passenger or 2 and it is tolerated by all , it seems . Who owns the moped ? I think we all know that .

"..... many expats come here to get away from that and  " big brother..."

 

For a starter they about to put up with one of the biggest "biggest bad brother" states - possibly running a close second to North Korea!! No gain for the expats there.

 

As for a "nanny state" concern, I can only guess that these clever(?) ex pats are not affected by road trauma among their families or friends. 

 

Rose coloured spectacles comes to mind.

More jawboning, from the master himself. If he was serious about protecting his people, he would have done it from day one. The RTP are not interested in traffic safety, and the government has no interest in public safety. And the carnage continues, and Thailand continues it's place as number two in the world (after war torn Libya) for road deaths per capita. At least they are number two in something! There are a hundred things that could be done to protect the people, and prevent more accidents. Start with law enforcement, and the enforcing of laws that are already on the books. Serious fines for speeding, impounding of vehicles, with serious fines for drunk driving, long prison terms for manslaughter, caused by drivers who carelessly mow people down, regardless of how influential or connected, or wealthy they are. Incease the penalties severely for fleeing the scene of an accident. I do not think there is currently any penalty for that. And how about a really novel idea? Have the highway police actually patrol the highway, instead of playing cards in the office. The only time I ever see them is after an accident. There is a concept known as a deterrent, which is virtually unknown in this country.