kannot Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 2 hours ago, JustNo said: Fair point point if you want to look at the amount of life loss and the chances of being caught up in a situation, however again I would like to point out that one is a third world country.. Not only that but what stands out is that these mass shootings are so rare in other developed nations, it is so striking in comparison. And of course other developed nations have guns as we have seen in this thread, so the problem remains with the people using the guns i.e. the US citizens and the society there But this is solely about "shootings" there are way more ways to kill people en masse than shootings as mentioned in the article linked to, how about the German? pilot who wiped out a plane load of people.............no gun involved, gun is just the method, all the "other" ways need to be calculated up before condemning America Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zd1 Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 I have said it before and I will say it again, more guns equal more gun violence. The theory that arming the population will reduce gun crime is nothing short of preposterous, until the populous can see the light these dreadful events will continue. I am anti guns and can't see why a civilised human being would want one after all they were designed to kill and civilised people don't kill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 10 hours ago, kannot said: do u really think its changed that much in 15 years? Yes... By 2014 USA 10.54 per 100,000 head of population so that's 105.4 per million. up 3 fold. By 2010 South Africa 83 from 700 big improvement. (source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate) What is clear the countries that figure higher than the states have issue with war, civil war, lawlessness, crime and drugs many are in the USA's back yard with USA involvement. Another stat... ERIN GRINSHTEYN, DAVID HEMENWAY/THE AMERICAN JOURNAL OF MEDICINE http://www.cbsnews.com/news/how-u-s-gun-deaths-compare-to-other-countries/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 8, 2017 Share Posted January 8, 2017 Some off-topic posts have been removed. This thread is about a particular shooting at an airport. Stay on topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankerWeams Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 On 1/7/2017 at 5:15 PM, stevenl said: He is not a muslim, so he must have psychological problems. I do not see how the shooters religion is relevant, but he identified as a muslim and called himself Aashiq Hammad since at least 2007, long before any trips to Iraq with the army. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavidVincent Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 (edited) Deleted Edited January 9, 2017 by DavidVincent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, TankerWeams said: I do not see how the shooters religion is relevant, but he identified as a muslim and called himself Aashiq Hammad since at least 2007, long before any trips to Iraq with the army. You sure this is not 'fake news' as it is only reported in the usual extremist right wing web sites Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilostmypassword Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 3 hours ago, TankerWeams said: I do not see how the shooters religion is relevant, but he identified as a muslim and called himself Aashiq Hammad since at least 2007, long before any trips to Iraq with the army. Source, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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