CWMcMurray Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 [/url] Good movie, quite funnyBut was just showing that it is not just 'looney left' or liberals who want 'open borders' against thisThere are those all across the spectrum both left and right against thisSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savilesghost Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 1 minute ago, CWMcMurray said: Good movie, quite funnyBut was just showing that it is not just 'looney left' or liberals who want 'open borders' against thisThere are those all across the spectrum both left and right against thisSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Rev. Steve Martin, communications director for the National Council of Christians—one of the largest coalitions of Christian churches in the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Rev. Steve Martin, communications director for the National Council of Christians—one of the largest coalitions of Christian churches in the country.Got it,, but different guy... same nameSent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Some more conservatives...Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), wasn’t alone in its outrage.I don't doubt that.There is nothing that can be done that does not cause some people to be outraged. Look at the idiocy of the people protesting after the election.I was outraged when a traitor to the United States was pardoned, but I don't remember hearing anything about it from CAIR or the ACLU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james1995 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 More whining from a bunch of sore losers. He should make the ban permanent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 I agree that there have been a bunch of sore losers after this election and a lot of over the top fear mongering.. which I would call out and don't agree withBut this is not that and is based on a specific executive order that i don't believe is good for the country Its not just the sore losers in this case... It seems there are a large number of those that presumably also voted for Trump against this one...Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Theresa May has instructed Boris Johnson to contact his opposite number in Washington and condemn Trumps banning of the Muslim countries, same instruction for Amber Rudd. Johnson has already condemned the actions as divisive and wrong. A petition was instigated to get Trump's visit to Britain cancelled until he had dropped the stupid ban idea. They needed 100,000 signatures for it to be debated in the house of commons but within a very short time it was topping 300,000 and rising every minute. Apparently Trump is frightened of meeting Prince Charles and said he wanted to avoid it on his State visit as he knows he will be pressured about climate change issues. How brave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just signed the petition myself. 364,000 and rising every minute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Great idea to cancel trump's state visit to the U.K. It will help with the efforts to impeach him. This Muslim ban has already created a constitutional crisis. Amazing "work" for being president for a few days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWMcMurray Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Great idea to cancel trump's state visit to the U.K. It will help with the efforts to impeach him. This Muslim ban has already created a constitutional crisis. Amazing "work" for being president for a few days. Having an executive order overturned is not an impeachable offenseOtherwise Obama would have also been impeachedThat being said, totally disagree with Trump on this and hope he either sees sense or courts continue to over turn this one Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Just now, CWMcMurray said: Having an executive order overturned is not an impeachable offense Otherwise Obama would have also been impeached That being said, totally disagree with Trump on this and hope he either sees sense or courts continue to over turn this one Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect It's adding up. The financial corruption abroad is clearly the biggest vein of possible impeachable offences. I think you really don't get it. trump was legally impeachable the second he was inaugurated. But he has his party behind him because they love the power and they're willing to make a deal with the an insane clown president to keep it and use it. But there is a limit. In his first week, he starts a trade war with Mexico, a key trading partner, and then if "special relationship" UK cancels a state visit ... it becomes clear they can't work with him ... he's just too damaging to the nation, the world, and most importantly their own political careers. With some of their votes ... he's gone, and we get Pence, who is at least not insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, james1995 said: More whining from a bunch of sore losers. He should make the ban permanent. This sore losers thing is dated, and clueless. It's trump that's the sore winner. The anti-trump resistance is not about trying to overturn the election and get Clinton. Not at all. It's about trying to get trump legally impeached (or to resign) when he will be replaced by Pence, and far right winger that he is, at least he's a normal person. It's not only leftists behind this ... it's a broad coalition that includes very conservative people that realize our American democracy may not survive four (or eight or more) years of a mentally bizarre divisive dangerous authoritarian demagogue like trump. Edited January 29, 2017 by Jingthing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard W Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 There are two separate issues here. One is the intended future policy. The other is the dishonouring of visas already properly granted for still-valid reasons. Not even the UK does that. It seems that the courts are saying, pro tem, that they should be honoured if the holders can reach the border. I don't know what is happening on the land borders - and if Google knows, it may be staying shtmm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcsmith Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) I'm not a fan of Kim Kardashian but this image comes from her last tweet. Edited January 29, 2017 by jcsmith Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 BREAKING NEWS After protests, the Trump administration seemed to scale back the president's immigration ban, but confusion continued Sunday, January 29, 2017 10:48 AM EST https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/us/politics/white-house-official-in-reversal-says-green-card-holders-wont-be-barred.html?emc=edit_na_20170129&nl=breaking-news&nlid=76310506&ref=cta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 12 hours ago, Traveler19491 said: Odd that you would think Trump's use of Executive Orders to make him a "man of action", while at the same time insisting that Obama, who initiated far fewer Executive Orders than either Dubya or Bill Clinton, was usurping the Constitution. The legality/Constitutionality of Trump's order is extremely questionable. What isn't questionable is the omission of Turkey, Egypt, and Saudi Arabia from his list of banned nations...all three of which are countries where Trump has deep business ties. Egypt, which has been victim of one of the highest rates of terrorism in the world. Saudi Arabia, home to 15 of the 19 9/11 terrorists. Turkey, a nation that is growing increasingly hostile in its Islamic rhetoric. But, because Trump has money tied up in those places and certainly wouldn't want to anger their leaders, I guess he figures we can skip over countries that arguably shelter more terrorists than any other. But, I'm sure that's probably just a small oversight on Trump's part. The hypocrisy and self-dealing are mind-numbing. But then, this is a man whose ego and self-interest know no limits. It's an idiotic notion that Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia were excluded because one has some crazy idea that Trump would not want to anger their leaders because of possible investments. This is just more fake crap floating around out there. Please do name his investments and how they might be harmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sioux2012 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 13 hours ago, Opl said: ‘It’s working out very nicely’: Trump insists in spite of ‘chaos’ that Muslim ban is going just fine https://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/its-working-out-very-nicely-trump-insists-in-spite-of-chaos-that-muslim-ban-is-going-just-fine/ I can't help laughing about the chaos this guy is stirring up....and then casually coming out with "the travel ban is working out nicely". If you hadn't heard the name Trump before 2015, you do now....what a great reality show Trump is now producing. It sure beats his old TV Show he produced "The Apprentice". Please stay tuned until tomorrow to this channel and find how many and what the next load of executive orders will be regarding and if he had enough ink his pen to sign them all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skywalker69 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Trouble said: It's an idiotic notion that Turkey, Egypt, Saudi Arabia were excluded because one has some crazy idea that Trump would not want to anger their leaders because of possible investments. This is just more fake crap floating around out there. Please do name his investments and how they might be harmed. http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia In Egypt. Trump Marks Egypt Corp Trump Marks Egypt LLC In Turkey. Trump Towers, Sisli is a 40-story residential tower in Istanbul, Turkey. On his web site, Trump makes it clear he does not own the development, but the owners have licensed his name. In his filing, Trump lists royalty income of $1 million to $5 million. It's standard in the hotel business for brands to license their names for use by local owners. https://qz.com/461688/a-list-of-everything-donald-trump-runs-that-has-his-name-on-it/ http://money.cnn.com/2015/12/08/news/donald-trump-muslim-countries-business/ Edited January 29, 2017 by Skywalker69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunroaming Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 Petition to stop Trumps UK State visit now at 500,000 and climbing. Fasted rising official government petition ever ( that's what is being reported but not officially confirmed yet) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingthing Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 19 minutes ago, dunroaming said: Petition to stop Trumps UK State visit now at 500,000 and climbing. Fasted rising official government petition ever ( that's what is being reported but not officially confirmed yet) Thank you. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 18 hours ago, JHolmesJr said: Yes, dear Mana….it's called an Executive Order. He is the President whether you like it or not. Nice tweet Kellyanne…..she is channelling exactly what I said 2 days ago. "A promise made. A promise kept." I am happy that the Donald is proving to be a man of his word, unlike the thick skinned crooks who pass for politicians. There was this fool of a mayor from Boston who actually said that illegal immigrants could use his office…I kid you not. The dumbos at ISIS will probably unleash a couple of shootings in retaliation…showing the world that Mr Trump was absolutely right not to kowtow to them and other flaky liberal notions. ISIS is celebrating Trump's election. No doubt they will use his election and his generalization of Muslims to attract more members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamahele Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) From Republican Senators McCain and Graham “It is clear from the confusion at our airports across the nation that President Trump’s executive order was not properly vetted,” “We are particularly concerned by reports that this order went into effect with little to no consultation with the Departments of State, Defense, Justice, and Homeland Security.” “We should not stop green-card holders from returning to the country they call home,” they said. “We should not stop those who have served as interpreters for our military and diplomats from seeking refuge in the country they risked their lives to help. And we should not turn our backs on those refugees who have been shown through extensive vetting to pose no demonstrable threat to our nation, and who have suffered unspeakable horrors, most of them women and children.” Edited January 29, 2017 by kamahele Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jingthing said: if "special relationship" UK cancels a state visit IMO the petition will not succeed. It seems one of the reasons for push back is Trump's attempt to avoid, or at least set the groundwork to minimise the embarrassment when meeting the future King of England by not discussing climate change which Prince Charles has supported for 40 years. Unsure how HMG would respond to USA banning entry to UK dual citizens, or indeed any other Western ally dual citizens with Muslim heritage. Edited January 29, 2017 by simple1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simple1 Posted January 29, 2017 Share Posted January 29, 2017 24 minutes ago, simple1 said: IMO the petition will not succeed. It seems one of the reasons for push back is Trump's attempt to avoid, or at least set the groundwork to minimise the embarrassment when meeting the future King of England by not discussing climate change which Prince Charles has supported for 40 years. Unsure how HMG would respond to USA banning entry to UK dual citizens, or indeed any other Western ally dual citizens with Muslim heritage. HMG has now confirmed will not apply to dual nationals departing from the UK. http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-38789821 Trump has agreed to take approx 1600 Iraqi/Iranian nationals currently held in offshore detention camps by Oz government. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/jan/29/donald-trump-malcolm-turnbull-phone-call-immigration-ban-muslim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I agree that there have been a bunch of sore losers after this election and a lot of over the top fear mongering.. which I would call out and don't agree withBut this is not that and is based on a specific executive order that i don't believe is good for the country Its not just the sore losers in this case... It seems there are a large number of those that presumably also voted for Trump against this one...Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa ConnectI have not seen many of the sore losers being called out.If you call everyone Hitler, and everything a constitutional crisis, when a real Hitler or crisis comes along, no one will believe you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 I'm not a fan of Kim Kardashian but this image comes from her last tweet. There are over 350 million American citizens in the US. If their were 350 million Islamist terrorists in the US do you think the numbers would go up?You guys crack me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kowpot Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 THE AMERICAS Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada welcomes refugees Published January 29, 2017 FoxNews.co Well, good then. I guess Canada will have to pay for the other wall!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savilesghost Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, dunroaming said: Petition to stop Trumps UK State visit now at 500,000 and climbing. Fasted rising official government petition ever ( that's what is being reported but not officially confirmed yet) No the fastest rising one was the false Brexit one when the arrogant cultural marxists in the UK realised the people had spoken and wanted out the EU and they tried to petition because they were too lazy to vote Let me guess who is reporting this ? The BBC or one of the other leftie liberal news sources with their alternative truths ? Edited January 30, 2017 by Savilesghost Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savilesghost Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 27 minutes ago, kowpot said: THE AMERICAS Prime Minister Justin Trudeau says Canada welcomes refugees Published January 29, 2017 FoxNews.co Well, good then. I guess Canada will have to pay for the other wall!! Funny that, every Canadian i know, and i know a few have big concerns about refugees and immigrants arriving in Canada with their hands out looking for freebies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savilesghost Posted January 30, 2017 Share Posted January 30, 2017 1 hour ago, mogandave said: I have not seen many of the sore losers being called out. If you call everyone Hitler, and everything a constitutional crisis, when a real Hitler or crisis comes along, no one will believe you. Cry wolf....the cultural marxists are brilliant at it...Lenin, Stalin and other communist leaders used it even more effectively than Hitler to keep people from voicing their opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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