Serbian gang arrested in Bangkok for selling fake gold

[peterb17]

6 hours ago, sahibji said:

is pattaya covered by the media extensively or is it a hub of crime? every other thing seems to be happening there. it is surprising that experienced gold traders got conned. there are ways of identity gold purity with very simple tests.

Of course Pattaya is the total absolute hub of criminality- you simply cannot walk the streets here without being robbed, sexually assaulted , ripped off, scammed .

 

Another prime example of the lack of comprehension skills- more than 4 sentences - oh no.

 

In Bangkok! 

 

Anyway would agree I would have thought they could tell the difference? 

 

 

 

 

[The Deerhunter]

14 hours ago, worgeordie said:

So they are back to showing criminals faces again,

thought it would not last long.

 

I thought it would be quite difficult scamming a gold shop,

as I thought they were not into buying gold without Thai

gold markings on them,I think every Gold shop has their

own mark.

 

regards worgeordie

The  "liquid paper" or Twink as it is know in some countries, key on the editor's keyboard was stuck. (Yes I know what twink is in USA speak)

Edited February 2, 2017 by The Deerhunter

[The Deerhunter]

6 hours ago, psyvolt said:

Knew it wouldnt take long before an idiot came along and tried saying this for the 1000th time today.

Well done squire..

 

Now all we need is someone from the same crowd to come along and say "Good guys in, bad guys out" and we can pretty much close this thread, as all the good sayings have been used already

Oh NO!!! You missed out on a reference to  "Quality Tourists."  Not complete without that!!

[Rhys]

Guess they learned about thermal changes in air density...

[tgeezer]

I am curious to know how gold shops verify gold. Do you need to determine the volume of an object to determine its Specific Gravity? How would that be done with a tiny chain?


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[Wirejerker]

ty? How would that be done with a tiny chain?

put it in a bath with archmedes

[theguyfromanotherforum]

As a Serb myself, I am quite embarrassed at this amaterurish job.

 

Also, the common country to pull these kind of scams is Germany. 

 

Yes, one of the names is Macedonian. Perhaps the sole reason for this shameful and failed gig?

 

 

[meatboy]

18 hours ago, rak sa_ngop said:

You would have thought that  an experienced gold dealer would have been able to tell it was fake just by its weight and feel in his hand.

 

Specific gravity of gold 19.3

 

Specific gravity of silver 10.5

 

CHEAP GOLD it was GREED got the better of them.

[impulse]

11 hours ago, psyvolt said:

Knew it wouldnt take long before an idiot came along and tried saying this for the 1000th time today.

Well done squire..

 

Now all we need is someone from the same crowd to come along and say "Good guys in, bad guys out" and we can pretty much close this thread, as all the good sayings have been used already

  Not yet.  Still need someone to say "all that glitters is not gold" and "a fool and his money...".  Somewhat akin to the fat lady singing.

[tgeezer]

ty? How would that be done with a tiny chain?
put it in a bath with archmedes

That's an intelligent response, designed no doubt to ensure that even the most ignorant member is not excluded from the discussion. Don't worry I will give you another chance!
Having Archmedes in the bath already doesn't make it any easier to measure how much water is displaced by the addition of a tiny chain. In fact unless you mopped up all the water he had displaced how on earth would you measure the increase?


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[The man from udon]

They knew it was fake.why sell one item in a shop and move on to another.if it was real then sell the lot in one deal.anyway I hope they enjoy their holiday in IDC.

[bangon04]

16 hours ago, Formaleins said:

I loved the guy's fitting name "Despot - ovich!" Let me take a guess a Kazar? About as Russian as Burger King. Probably flee to asylum in Israel.

arai wa?

[Janner1]

Don't blame the Thai gold shop owners for being scammed these Eastern Europeans are very clever just go to Google and punch in  Fake gold sold in Hong Kong and you will see that even world class dealers get very badly scammed for millions not just a few thousands.

 

credit where credit is due the Thais nailed this bunch after just one transaction

[gemguy]

Ok..it is a scam ....99% sure...but, the truth be told many people are scammed by way of buying a gold item that is silver based with an electroplated micron coating of 14K or 18 K or 23 K gold and fake certified as standard genuine gold throughout the piece or components

Not difficult to do for those in the Silver and Gold jewelry trade....if they are inclined to do so.

Silver jewelry is commonly electroplated with several micron thicknesses of gold ranging from 3 to 5 microns thickness with any mix of gold that you want or require but the standard is 23 K or 18 K or 14 K and some markets  sell 9 or 10 K  gold used as the micron plating.

Or..... the product is gold throughout but 23 K gold or 18 K gold or 14 K gold or the 9 to 10 K gold throughout the item or components

Point is, there are more than enough people who have purchased what they thought was say, 23 K gold throughout ...but it turns out to be much cheaper silver and micron plated with 23 K gold ...and when tested it tests as 23 K gold....but that is on the outside while 98 % of what you purchased is 925 silver throughout or some other base metal such as brass.

There are ways and means to further test if you are suspect that it is Silver base metal or another base metal and gold plated while a standard comparison item can be weighed on a carat scale and know the carat weight  and then weigh the suspect item and learn if it is lighter or heavier by carat weight than the standard weight item .......and if so.......then why is there a notable difference in the weight??

Not to trash the lady who was buying but normally they will ask to see a purchase receipt and or metal alloy analysis / certificate stating the product is gold throughout as opposed to some kind of base metal used with an electroplated micron coating of gold.

She should have known better...but I figure she bought the item for a much lower price than could be presently supplied from a wholesale supplier of the genuine item and she kind of shot herself in the foot being too quick and eager to buy from someone looking like they need money and just wants to get some quick cash.

The Gold shops will advertise they pay this much or that much for the price of 23 K Thai baht gold items  but when you bring in your 23 K gold items and originally purchased from another source and being another type of design and other relative aspects of the product are different than what they have in stock and selling, they can or will make you an offer regardless of what they say they are paying for gold and advertised outside their shop.

If you do not like the offer, then ....take your wares elsewhere ...but most of them will not just buy it without thoroughly scrutinizing the item and making sure it is what it is said to be and if not they may still be interested in buying it ..but at a  price that is lower and relative to what they would pay for the same or similar item supplied to them from a wholesale supplier that sells the same or similar item made in  Silver base metal and Gold plated and pay the current whole sale price, which for that item may only be 1000 baht for example as compared to the same size and length and design etc  and guaranteed or cetified to be 23 K gold and worth say, 23,000 baht current price from a wholesale supplier.

Or they make it themselves and they know what the current costs are so they will offer you slightly less than what they could supply it to themselves for and make a little mote profit on the item that you sold to them....if they want...or they do not want your gold item.

Cheers

[Reigntax]

On Thursday, February 02, 2017 at 5:09 PM, rak sa_ngop said:

You would have thought that  an experienced gold dealer would have been able to tell it was fake just by its weight and feel in his hand.

 

Specific gravity of gold 19.3

 

Specific gravity of silver 10.5

 

 

You'd thought they would use depleted uranium to give that extra shine!

[George Graham]

On 02/02/2017 at 3:32 PM, PatOngo said:

Got his Banglampoo mixed up with his Banglamung.

God that must be bloody uncomfortable!

[slapout]

I can not think of why any foreign scammers would come to Thailand to swindle as most of the locals are already experts at the trade. Guess there is a fairly large group of greedy, lazy, drunk, dopeheads and a few young ones to go after. Plus the bib are not real effecient in police work, answered my own question???

[Nemesis7]

stupidity seems has no limits.

[ratcatcher]

On 2/3/2017 at 7:01 AM, Wirejerker said:

ty? How would that be done with a tiny chain?

put it in a bath with archmedes

Archimedes had principles but never bathed with gold chains.

[bannork]

On 2/2/2017 at 0:43 PM, davehowden said:

I thought scamming was a job reserved for Thais !!

 No, this was farangness at its best

Edited February 4, 2017 by bannork

[gk10002000]

On 2/1/2017 at 10:09 PM, rak sa_ngop said:

You would have thought that  an experienced gold dealer would have been able to tell it was fake just by its weight and feel in his hand.

 

Specific gravity of gold 19.3

 

Specific gravity of silver 10.5

 

yeah, it wouldn't take long to measure the volume, weight it, and check the density.  Not to mention there are a few other ways to test

[cyberfarang]

Sudarat Ongsritrakun, the owner of the Eng Hua Heng gold shop in Jakraphong Road said that Boris had come into her shop to sell a gold item. It was examined and deemed to be gold and 45,000 baht was paid for it.

 

These people are in the business of buying and selling gold, yet have no idea how to distinguish the genuine article.  Fools gold indeed.

 

I think these gold shop owners are in the wrong business.

[blackcab]

The only problem with their story is that if they had genuine gold they could have sold it all to the same shop. There was no need to go to different shops and make different transactions.

[Kamelleon77]

Can somebody tell me. What kind of sentence they get for this?

[lvr181]

2 hours ago, Kamelleon77 said:

Can somebody tell me. What kind of sentence they get for this?

Smack on the hand and a 500bht fine plus a photo with police?

[gemguy]

On ‎2017‎-‎02‎-‎07 at 4:20 AM, lvr181 said:

Smack on the hand and a 500bht fine plus a photo with police?

The police want in on the scam for 30 percent...or go to jail....

You are now working with us,  for us, ..same, same ....but carry on and call us if there are any problems...lol

Cheers

[khunpa]

Good they found a room where ALL police staff could be on the picture.

 

Meanwhile the streets are empty of police and lots of other more serious crimes are being committed. But never mind that, when a photo opportunity arises. 

Edited June 10, 2017 by khunpa

[The Deerhunter]

On 2/2/2017 at 3:32 PM, PatOngo said:

Got his Banglampoo mixed up with his Banglamung.

Removed.  Too far off topic, really.

Edited June 10, 2017 by The Deerhunter

[Laab Muu]

On ‎02‎/‎02‎/‎2017 at 5:43 AM, davehowden said:

I thought scamming was a job reserved for Thais !!

You must have led a very sheltered time in Thailand to think that.

[The Deerhunter]

Removed.  Bother. someone else said or first

Edited June 12, 2017 by The Deerhunter