Enoon Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 27 minutes ago, F4UCorsair said: I'd like to see it thrive. Never been to Pattaya, but I have visited HH, and liked it. I may take the ferry from HH to Pattaya, two new experiences, then a bus back to Bangkok. The BK-HH-P triangular route would be ideal for many tourists, and will be popular if it is well publicised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rebo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 hour ago, grumbleweed said: At least 29% capacity during peak season, when the service is free, and they're talking about a second boat??? Now that's what I call optimism This is what I call a Thai Business Plan ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimmer Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 A Pattaya bashing troll post has been trashed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 hour ago, grumbleweed said: At least 29% capacity during peak season, when the service is free, and they're talking about a second boat??? Now that's what I call optimism If they're looking for investors for this second boat, although their specialty is bridges, there's a team of guys over in the states who could be interested Unless the plan has changed, the second boat will be able to carry cars and scooters in addition to passengers. They may be able to make a go of it carrying cargo, vehicles and passengers. Worth a try as long as they have a "Plan B" for the equipment if they can't make it work. What's it cost to lease a couple of boats for a few months to dial it in? They may even be getting the boats on a free trial, with the shipyard hoping for a sale -or even a fleet of sales if they start auto ferries to BKK, Samui, Songkhla, etc. Or, they can do what successful entrepreneurs have been doing for centuries- sit on their money and lament that it'll never work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catman20 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 2 hours ago, GAZZPA said: I completely agree. For myself and the missus using this rerun ferry is 5000 baht.. Far too much money for a ferry. For that money I can hire a minibus for the day with driver and take a dozen of us and probably buy everyone lunch. Someone has got this very wrong and it will probably fail to become economically viable. 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Does any one know the time schedules or has a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 To know the schedule you have to consult with the weather department,harbour master and then finally the ferry company as the schedule is flexibly amended to account for the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 12 hours ago, sahibji said: I feel the numbers will pick up if the ferry service is on time and efficient. the time savings to commute between the two destinations will make it worth it. Your optimism is admirable........sadly T.I.T. and these things (on time and efficient) do not happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petermik Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 7 hours ago, Monkeyrobot said: Does any one know the time schedules or has a link? What time can you make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nakhonandy Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 5 hours ago, sahibji said: I feel the numbers will pick up if the ferry service is on time and efficient. the time savings to commute between the two destinations will make it worth it. It's cheaper, quicker and more efficient to drive. Can't see if working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nielsk Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 3 hours ago, GAZZPA said: I completely agree. For myself and the missus using this rerun ferry is 5000 baht.. Far too much money for a ferry. For that money I can hire a minibus for the day with driver and take a dozen of us and probably buy everyone lunch. Someone has got this very wrong and it will probably fail to become economically viable. Then You just go by minibus and enjoy Yourself while I use the ferry and not have to worry about the traffic..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunken Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 One sure way they could make it viable is to have a casino on board which opens & closes at the 3-mile limit at both ends. With Royal in the company name probably a no-no in the current environment though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wigan Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Just had another look, construction work around pier at Hua hin coming along well , should be decent area to arrive/ depart from, and ok to use now. however only information in entire area is a small 6x4 " notice on glass door of newly built " holding bay" saying Hua hin to pattaya ferry, and telephone No! Now don't know if it's advertised in some local rag, but if I didn't hear about this service in TV , wouldn't have known it existed. suggest that 99% of people here in that "boat!" No nothing about it! no advertising, no information, equals no customers! is this company so ridiculously inept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidermike007 Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 hours ago, Retiredandhappyhere said: So food prices DOUBLE due to "supply and demand" and not due to the usual RIP-OFF philosophy?. How many tourists do you think are put off by these tactics and resolve to go elsewhere? Many Thais only think about the moment and not about the future. This is why tourist numbers which have grown year by year in the past , without a proportionate increase or improvement in related infrastructure, will now gradually decline or at the very least fail to grow (despite the usual TAT propaganda). Nowadays, nearly every Asian country is touting for tourist business and some have as much or more to offer than Thailand, so people are comparing the relative services offered as well as other factors like safety (on the roads and elsewhere) and the possibility of falling foul of the false smiles and the corrupt justice system. I do not want Thailand to fail economically as I live here but, what with the Thai Government and the attitude of many service providers, Thais seem to be their own worst enemies. The peak season in Hua Hin is quite short. Usually a month or so. Then it kind of tapers off for the next couple of months. Price gouging should be considered a serious crime, and punishable with penalties that would mean something to the perpetrators. Tourists are not dumb. Nobody likes getting ripped off. Most of the restaurants are quite full right now, and they are making plenty of money charging the normal prices. If at some point Thailand stops being a good value, people will stop coming. Already, Western tourism is falling off to an alarming degree, partly thanks to this tone deaf, nationalistic administration, populated by ignorant neophytes, who care nothing for the Thai people. The average Thais that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mlmcleod Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 I just returned from a week long trip to Hua HIn via Bell Transport. The bus service is first class with the exception that there needs to be a 15 minute break somewhere during the trip to stretch legs, use the bathroom, etc. With a price of 389 baht each way the ferry just does not make economical sense at 999 baht or 1250 baht each way. I do hope the ferry service is successful but charging at 2 or 3 times the bus rate will probably doom it. Don't get mad, it's just my opinion!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impulse Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 hours ago, nakhonandy said: It's cheaper, quicker and more efficient to drive. Can't see if working If you're one of the tiny percentage of people in Thailand who actually own a car here... Most tourists don't, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gandtee Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 10 hours ago, steveyinasia said: "eight VIPs is available for 14,000 baht per trip" that's one very expensive VIP option, what do you get for the price? The satisfaction of people admiring you for being able to afford it. Lots of face! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 10 hours ago, steveyinasia said: "eight VIPs is available for 14,000 baht per trip" that's one very expensive VIP option, what do you get for the price? de-luxe sick bags... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 The satisfaction of people admiring you for being able to afford it. Lots of face!Toursits can and do hire cars ,bikes and even pickup trucks...a ferry thats big enough to take vehicles,hasnt been tried yet and I think it would be the only viable option..having a boat that doesn't travel half the time because the waves are to big just doesnt make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 Love Month.......he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiggo Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 1 hour ago, hotchilli said: de-luxe sick bags... Your own Lifejacket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerbalEd Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 11 hours ago, midas said: But where is the saving if the weather suddenly turns bad before the return journey and you have to stay overnight in Hua Hin ? Do you have the same concerns about a car or van or bus breaking down during the drive to HH & Pattaya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpcoe Posted February 3, 2017 Share Posted February 3, 2017 4 hours ago, johng said: Toursits can and do hire cars ,bikes and even pickup trucks...a ferry thats big enough to take vehicles,hasnt been tried yet and I think it would be the only viable option..having a boat that doesn't travel half the time because the waves are to big just doesnt make sense. Hiring/renting a vehicle brings the driving cost more in line with the ferry cost, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 Yes motorbike 100 baht ,car 800,pickup truck 1000 baht per day + you have transportation to and from the ferry and to do whatever during the trip.being able to cut out 4 hours travel time between Pattaya -Hua Hin and avoiding Bangkok altogether would be useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ace of Pop Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 How many of us TV folk are thinking. I'd like to go just once to try it.?. Unfortunately I recon so is the rest of Asia.[emoji1570][emoji474]?♀️Sent from my iPhone using Thaivisa Connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I can only hope that in lets say 3 months time they are just as upbeat about it as they are now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farcanell Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 On 2/3/2017 at 8:11 AM, joepattaya1961 said: 346 people? At first there were talks about 150!! Anyway, if during the 'free' period a 100 people joined the free rides, I guess that number will fall drastically as soon as the paid rides kick off. Good pick up. initial info said 150 pax, with a second ferry capable of taking 262 pax, if the first ferry was sussesful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asiantravel Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 " they are yet to release passenger numbers from the first day " I guess we will see in due course.................... I had a clear view of the ferry this morning from Pratumnak Hill just before its departure at 10:30 AM. I was there about 10.10 a.m.and I was counting how many people were walking down that part of the pier which was very quiet. First I noticed one couple and then a few minutes later another couple and finally I noticed a group of about nine Indian guys but they turned left again and boarded one of the timber constructed excursion boats....................and that was it! of course there could have been throngs of people already on board but for a Saturday morning it seemed very quiet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TallGuyJohninBKK Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 I just wanna know two things: --who exactly is the anonymous company/officials operating this service (beyond just the company name that's been publicly used)? --now that the test period over over, is the Royal Navy ship going to continue to shadow the ferry back and forth on every trip as a kind of, for lack of a better term, Thai life insurance policy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted February 4, 2017 Share Posted February 4, 2017 23 hours ago, HerbalEd said: Do you have the same concerns about a car or van or bus breaking down during the drive to HH & Pattaya? What a ridiculous comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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