VIV ASIA - 2017

[Speedo1968]

The VIV ASIA Trade Show ( mainly poultry - or used to be ! )

 

Dates March 15th - 17th.

 

Location - BITEC

 

You can pre - register online.

 

Day 1 always very busy.

Day 2 good day to go

Day 3 as usual in international events a lot of stands starting to close.

[djayz]

This year I've registered for HORTI Asia. Do you happen to know if I can pass from HORTI into VIV and subsequently into AGRITECHNICA with the same pre-registered pass or must I pre-register for all three events seperately? 

Thanks! 

[Speedo1968]

16 hours ago, djayz said:

This year I've registered for HORTI Asia. Do you happen to know if I can pass from HORTI into VIV and subsequently into AGRITECHNICA with the same pre-registered pass or must I pre-register for all three events seperately? 

Thanks! 

Hello "djayz"

Thanks for the interest.

Sorry I have no idea about wandering from one show to another.

I would pre- register for all 3, at least you  wont risk being turned back to fill in a form.  Online app is quick as you know.

 

Enjoy the shows although I have to admit, that the last one ( VIV ) was not so good, too many booths and not enough people on hand to talk too, as usual only the big boys get to talk with the big companies.

I found more interesting chats with the smaller companies.

Nothing really new that would help the livestock, just tinkering with old ideas and "Now for something completely different !"

 

There seems to be no doubt that equipment ( and breeder companies ) take little or notice of climate change and that this is ASIA not the US, China or Europe.  

 

I started in general farming in 1961 and have been a freelance consultant since 1983, almost entirely outside the UK, firstly in poultry then ducks   All the companies that sell poultry equipment ( housing, ventilation, feeding, drinking, weighing etc ) seem to think their equipment will do as well for ducks as it does for chickens.    It leads to big issues with animal welfare, if you are a caring farmer, and it leads to losses in production / quality too.

 

Even back in the 80's if you thought "outside the box" you could modify poultry equipment and save money.

 

Sorry to rabbit on, hope you find something useful to consider or buy.

[djayz]

32 minutes ago, Speedo1968 said:

Hello "djayz"

Thanks for the interest.

Sorry I have no idea about wandering from one show to another.

I would pre- register for all 3, at least you  wont risk being turned back to fill in a form.  Online app is quick as you know.

 

Enjoy the shows although I have to admit, that the last one ( VIV ) was not so good, too many booths and not enough people on hand to talk too, as usual only the big boys get to talk with the big companies.

I found more interesting chats with the smaller companies.

Nothing really new that would help the livestock, just tinkering with old ideas and "Now for something completely different !"

 

There seems to be no doubt that equipment ( and breeder companies ) take little or notice of climate change and that this is ASIA not the US, China or Europe.  

 

I started in general farming in 1961 and have been a freelance consultant since 1983, almost entirely outside the UK, firstly in poultry then ducks   All the companies that sell poultry equipment ( housing, ventilation, feeding, drinking, weighing etc ) seem to think their equipment will do as well for ducks as it does for chickens.    It leads to big issues with animal welfare, if you are a caring farmer, and it leads to losses in production / quality too.

 

Even back in the 80's if you thought "outside the box" you could modify poultry equipment and save money.

 

Sorry to rabbit on, hope you find something useful to consider or buy.

Thanks for the info, much appreciate it. 

This'll be my first time at an agricultural show in Asia. I love going to them when I was a child back home. 

My main objective is to get a rough idea as to what's out there, methods, equipment, etc. and then take it from there. 

Thanks again! 

 

[Hereinthailand]

The problem I see here is there is only one way to do things, the thai way so trying to introduce anything new or different from what they have done for 100 years is a waste of time trying to sell or market. Then you add in the import and customs duties on anything brought in from outside the country and there is little hope for change.

[Hereinthailand]

My hortiasia pass gives me access to agritech but nothing about viv show

[Speedo1968]

20 minutes ago, Hereinthailand said:

The problem I see here is there is only one way to do things, the thai way so trying to introduce anything new or different from what they have done for 100 years is a waste of time trying to sell or market. Then you add in the import and customs duties on anything brought in from outside the country and there is little hope for change.

 

I agree on your main point.

Talking ducks .....

However, having spent 6 years visiting almost monthly and then 10 years working with one particular company in Thailand, I found the main problem to be that, when you recommend they "try" something ( with all the pros and cons clearly explained ) on / in one building first they often make it different to the suggested design / management and / or they do it in all buildings.

 

Decision making is of course 'sit on the fence' and when this attitude is also taken by senior Thai management, whom the company owners do not want to upset, then the customer s complaints about quality etc are often totally ignored just to save face.

 

The equipment companies, particularly for buildings and environmental control seem to take no account of what livestock will go in to the building, location of farm, 'what if' related to government regulations etc.  No doubt its just "you like ? you buy ?" sales pitch and then the purchaser, if naive, is left to figure out why it doesn't work.

 

Its often that the "new" things that are offered are in real day to day  use of no use , even totally impractical.

 

Your last sentence I agree 100%, as much equipment for poultry / ducks etc is plastic.      If you were a poultry / duck person I could give you a wonderful example of what companies are willing to sell but are totally unfit for purpose.