What type of school did you go to?

[seancbk]

Interested to see what the educational background of the members is.  
 

Not interested in University for this poll, just your secondary schooling (High school for some people).

So spill the beans, did you go to an expensive Private School or just a Government school?

 

 

[sipi]

A public state school.

Which one do I tick?

[Kwasaki]

UK Gov school and in my time,  had the choice to do a 2 year course in many group subjects which took you school leaving age of 16 instead of 15.

My chosen course :- Woodwork, Metalwork, Technical Science practical & theory, Technical drawing, and Maths & English had to be applied to all the 2 year courses. 

 

Woodwork, Metalwork, Science experiments & many sports not taught in UK now just in case little Jimmy or Jane hurt themselves and the parents sue the school. 

 

My main education was in the pub and over 15 years in the building industry where l was awarded a Fellowship working for a respected company. 

[seancbk]

1 hour ago, sipi said:

A public state school.

Which one do I tick?

 

Private schools in the UK are called Public schools.

 

[sipi]

1 minute ago, seancbk said:

 

Private schools in the UK are called Public schools.

 

Ok my apology. 

Private schools in Australia are called Private schools.

I will vote now.

[CharlieH]

Govt High School to age 16. 

[Gulfsailor]

In my home country there are only 5 or so private schools, apart from a bunch of international schools. So basically everybody goes to a state school.

[tutsiwarrior]

sounds like yer talkin' about the UK...we don't make such distinctions in the US, either yer degree program is accredited or it ain't...

 

stand anyone up against a comprehensive examination and you'll see who passes and who doesn't...there ain't no grades, either ye got it or ye don't...

 

 

tutsiwarrior: a warrior in defense of integrity in professional education/qualification...

 

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Edited March 4, 2017 by tutsiwarrior

[seancbk]

3 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said:

In my home country there are only 5 or so private schools, apart from a bunch of international schools. So basically everybody goes to a state school.

 

Except the people who don't.   

Assuming each of the private schools caters to around 400 - 500 students, that is still 2500 kids going to those schools.   

Also I didn't go to a private school in my country, I was sent away to boarding school.....  which is something a lot of people do, so possible you might have too.

 

 

[seancbk]

1 minute ago, tutsiwarrior said:

sounds like yer talkin' about the UK...we don't make such distinctions in the US, either yer degree program is accredited or it ain't...

 

stand anyone up against a comprehensive examination and you'll see who passes and who doesn't...there ain't no grades, either ye got it or ye don't...

 

 

 

I'm also not talking about Universities so nothing to do with degree programs.

In the US according to my research there are 8000 private schools.   

Here is a nice ranking of them for 2017 - https://www.niche.com/k12/rankings/private-high-schools/best-overall/

Private schools in the UK usually require that you pass (at age 10 or 11) a very tough entrance exam, it's no longer enough to just have rich parents, you also need to be intelligent.  I'm guessing the same is probably true for the US.
 

[tutsiwarrior]

8000 private schools in the US??? jezuz, that means that there must be 160 in every state...never seen one where I come from on the west coast...

 

we west coasters are horribly provincial...surfin', drugs and sex and whatnot...

 

 

[maxtwo]

Boarding school in the uk,until at 14 I smacked a teacher to get out of the place.As all I ever wanted to do was work in family business.which I have done for over 40 years.


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[seancbk]

19 minutes ago, tutsiwarrior said:

8000 private schools in the US??? jezuz, that means that there must be 160 in every state...never seen one where I come from on the west coast...

 

we west coasters are horribly provincial...surfin', drugs and sex and whatnot...

 

 

 

At least 100 private schools in California, at least here are the top 100 

https://www.niche.com/k12/rankings/private-high-schools/best-overall/s/california/


Where do you think all the rich people send their kids?    

[Gulfsailor]

32 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

Except the people who don't.   

Assuming each of the private schools caters to around 400 - 500 students, that is still 2500 kids going to those schools.   

Also I didn't go to a private school in my country, I was sent away to boarding school.....  which is something a lot of people do, so possible you might have too.

 

 

There are only 3 private boarding schools (all international curriculum), and a handful of state boarding schools which are for kids from parents who are merchant sailors. 

The few other private schools mostly offer the final one or two years only. My best estimate is that of the nearly 1 million kids in secondary education, 99.9% are in a (non boarding) state school. Personally I only know 1 person my age from my country who didn't spend all his/her years in a state school. 

It certainly was different in the past, when the elite sent their kids to fancy private boarding schools. But these have all closed in the 70's. 

[seancbk]

12 minutes ago, maxtwo said:

Boarding school in the uk,until at 14 I smacked a teacher to get out of the place.As all I ever wanted to do was work in family business.which I have done for over 40 years.


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I didn't mind boarding school so much, except that it was in the UK and I lived in Hong Kong.

I was fortunate enough to fly home every holiday and during the Summer holidays (nice long break) onto our holiday home in Kona (Hawaii), or for the shorter holidays usually either Thailand or Malaysia.   Phuket was fabulous in the late 70's/early 80's before the mass market tourists started arriving.

 

[seancbk]

3 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said:

There are only 3 private boarding schools (all international curriculum), and a handful of state boarding schools which are for kids from parents who are merchant sailors. 

The few other private schools mostly offer the final one or two years only. My best estimate is that of the nearly 1 million kids in secondary education, 99.9% are in a (non boarding) state school. Personally I only know 1 person my age from my country who didn't spend all his/her years in a state school. 

It certainly was different in the past, when the elite sent their kids to fancy private boarding schools. But these have all closed in the 70's. 

 

Why do you think those school closed?   What happened to all the elites that used to send their kids to those schools?

[tutsiwarrior]

18 minutes ago, seancbk said:

 

At least 100 private schools in California, at least here are the top 100 

https://www.niche.com/k12/rankings/private-high-schools/best-overall/s/california/


Where do you think all the rich people send their kids?    

 

in my experience most middle class kids were wasted junkies without ambition or hope...it was those of us with somethin' to lose that stuck it out...(to the disapproval of my engineering instructors: 'this is a gentleman's business and you sir cannot be described as being a gentleman...' and then tutsi snarled: 'that's right, pal, I'm only in it fer the money...')

 

other folks mileage may vary...

 

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by tutsiwarrior

[Gulfsailor]

1 minute ago, seancbk said:

 

Why do you think those school closed?   What happened to all the elites that used to send their kids to those schools?

A few reasons. 

1) most elite schools were part of a catholic monastery. With religiosity drastically reduced, many monasteries closed or at least had to close their educational programs, because students didn't want to go there. 

2) the quality of state schools drastically improved over the years, and different schools cater to different intelligence levels, so not like the U.K. or US where all are put together in the same school and receive the same curriculum. 

3) society as a whole became much more equal and social, so there are just not enough rich people wiling to pay for a private education when a state school is just as good.

4) work hours for men and definitely women were reduced a lot over the past decades. A normal full time job is 36 hours with 10 weeks holiday and all kinds of other reasons to get a few hours less per week. Most people do a day work from home as well. Then there are the majority of the women who work part time, 18-24 hours per week. That means in most families there is at least one parent at home when kids get out from school at 2 or 3pm. So there is no need for a boarding school. 

[maxtwo]

I didn't mind boarding school so much, except that it was in the UK and I lived in Hong Kong.

I was fortunate enough to fly home every holiday and during the Summer holidays (nice long break) onto our holiday home in Kona (Hawaii), or for the shorter holidays usually either Thailand or Malaysia.   Phuket was fabulous in the late 70's/early 80's before the mass market tourists started arriving.

 

Most holiday when I went home I would work in one of the business.My granddad worked manually in one of the shops ,till his death a few days short of 100.Dad still working at 84 and so not good for me trying to spend more time in Thailand.And when I mentioned retirement for myself to come to Thailand permanently it all hits the fan.

[seancbk]

8 minutes ago, Gulfsailor said:

A few reasons. 

1) most elite schools were part of a catholic monastery. With religiosity drastically reduced, many monasteries closed or at least had to close their educational programs, because students didn't want to go there. 

2) the quality of state schools drastically improved over the years, and different schools cater to different intelligence levels, so not like the U.K. or US where all are put together in the same school and receive the same curriculum. 

3) society as a whole became much more equal and social, so there are just not enough rich people wiling to pay for a private education when a state school is just as good.

4) work hours for men and definitely women were reduced a lot over the past decades. A normal full time job is 36 hours with 10 weeks holiday and all kinds of other reasons to get a few hours less per week. Most people do a day work from home as well. Then there are the majority of the women who work part time, 18-24 hours per week. That means in most families there is at least one parent at home when kids get out from school at 2 or 3pm. So there is no need for a boarding school. 

Thanks for the explanation.   Makes sense.   

I'm trying to guess which country this is..... can't figure it out.

 

[tutsiwarrior]

another observation that I have is that rich parents want their kids to associate with other suitable types and to guard against the riff - raff...

 

in the real world the riff - raff got ye comin' and goin' and you have to be prepared for this eventuality...pull out yer .44 and say: 'yessee what I'm trine to tell you, man?'...

 

in private school they play rugby to release aggression...which may or may not be effective, who knows?...in the fillm Love Story the preppy boy played ice hockey very aggressively...(a stentorian Ray Milland as the disapproving father who played a wasted drunk previously in Lost Weekend)

 

and what about Mr Chips?

 

 

Edited March 4, 2017 by tutsiwarrior

[Gulfsailor]

11 minutes ago, seancbk said:

Thanks for the explanation.   Makes sense.   

I'm trying to guess which country this is..... can't figure it out.

 

Take a guess. 

From https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc11_eng.pdf

[seancbk]

1 minute ago, Gulfsailor said:

Take a guess. 

From https://www.unicef-irc.org/publications/pdf/rc11_eng.pdf

 

 

Originally I was thinking Norway, but I don't know much about Norway's religious past.   I kind of think of all Scandinavians as either ultra religious nuts or complete agnostics/atheists.  

I'm going to say The Netherlands.
 

[samsensam]

public school 5 years

 

state school 2 years

[transam]

Technical school for boy's.....Drat, no girls.......

[elgordo38]

The school of hard knocks. As someone famous once said. Education is not the learning of facts but the training of minds to think

 

[Suradit69]

14 hours ago, seancbk said:

it's no longer enough to just have rich parents, 

Although it helps or else Prince Charles and Prince William would have done courses in brick laying or hotel management.

 

 

Edited March 5, 2017 by Suradit69

[NoshowJones]

Just an ordinary secondary school, was a bit of a rebel, only interested in getting home and over the park to play football.

Never done any homework, had no interest in the future at that time, but always had a talent for playing musical instruments, could play a tune on the piano at five years old, and was a musician all my adult life, and sometimes did other jobs as long as there was no or very little manual work involved.

[roo860]

I went to an excellent school, it was "approved"!!!!

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[NoshowJones]

2 hours ago, transam said:

Technical school for boy's.....Drat, no girls.......

That's one thing that made me unhappy at sec school, at primary it was mixed, but no mixed classes in sec school, had to wait at the school gates for the girls which I did at the end of every day. hung around with the same four girls from 1st to 4th year.  .