plachon Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 9 hours ago, hobobo said: I bet he is so upset now that he will turn himself in Don't think your sentence is complete. More appropriately: "I bet he is so upset now that he will turn himself in to a shape-shifting lizard, or perhaps a water monitor"......now hold on a minute, wasn't one of those creatures seen being helpfully freed by the cops in a local klong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Don't think your sentence is complete. More appropriately: "I bet he is so upset now that he will turn himself in to a shape-shifting lizard, or perhaps a water monitor"......now hold on a minute, wasn't one of those creatures seen being helpfully freed by the cops in a local klong? I hope your talking about the abbot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stereolab Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, hotchilli said: So what happens now that he is a mere mortal?? He always was a mere mortal. Nothing has changed, merely a demotion in rank. His followers will be unchanged in their misplaced affections for this individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, ddavidovsky said: The author is a bona fide academic and has no reason to sensationalise or distort. The only other sources on this topic are misinformation and prejudice - which everyone on this thread has fallen for. So you believe all bona-fide academics are perfect and none have any bias. How quaint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scorecard Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 2 hours ago, dcnx said: Not gonna hold my breath. At the end of the day, the real dirty work still rests in the hands of superstitious boys with very little problem solving skills. And let's also not forget, this monk has super powers and can not only walk on water, but can make himself invisible. And he can fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 And he can fly.He's getting away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddavidovsky Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 3 hours ago, scorecard said: Well given your past clear display of your 'colours', I'm not surprised at the gist of your opportune post. Common sense is indeed multi-coloured, but kindly stick to arguing the point. What is your refutation of the points in Taylor's article? I have yet to see any, only a crusade to stick it to the monks - desperate and prejudicial, as are all crusades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Common sense is indeed multi-coloured, but kindly stick to arguing the point. What is your refutation of the points in Taylor's article? I have yet to see any, only a crusade to stick it to the monks - desperate and prejudicial, as are all crusades.I think the answers to your questions are on the linked article. There's a comment section at the bottom of the page that will be interesting to you. As for me, a simple case of using a temple to launder stolen cash. It's nothing new, this time though we've got the boys in green running the show. They're big on anti-corruption. So, they caught the monk with his hand in the till. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil B Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 Does this mean that there is actually someone who can do something to address the problems within the Thai Buddhist organisation??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 12 hours ago, JAG said: Stripping this fellow of his (Royal granted) clerical rank is as pointed out a royal perogative. Going after him for alleged criminal activity is also justified, even if, as so often here I am sceptical about the motives for tackling "high end criminals"; but going after the owner of Khlong Luang Market because she has allowed protestors to gather there rather smacks of something else. Give it to us then 'JAG': multiple choice question: do you think the owner of Khlong Luan market did that: a) because he is a good and generous human being living according to the real principles of Buddhism; b. because he has become a dedicated follower of the deviant Dhammakaya cult; c) because he has a fixation on the safron colour the 'monks' wear; d) because he loves money a lot and the presence of that 'temple' next to his market brings him a lot of it; e) because he is yet another alien, who wants to stay close to the golden UFO in case of evacuation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 12 hours ago, mtls2005 said: Yes, you are correct. This monk has had three Royally bestowed monastic titles conferred upon him over the years: Phrasudharmayanathera in 1991 Phrarajbhavanavisudh in 1996 Phrathepyanmahamuni in 2011 according to the Royal Gazette. 'mtls2005': Thank you for sharing the intel, let's be 'resilient': maybe in 1991 and 1996 it had not, yet, become, erm, very clear what that Dhammajayo was really doing, but, that by 2011 the 'un-holy smell' had not spread around enough to irritate the sensitive nostrils of some members of His late Majesty's entourage...!? It would be interesting to know the names of those who were behind the recommendation which was presented to His late Majesty for undersigning. I guess the late Supreme Patriarch was not among them... It could shed a new light on some of the 'high ones' who are staunch supporters of this personal cult, and probably protecting it till today... Anyway, His Majesty's decision is, IMHO, a laudable one. Let's hope it will be the signal for the NCPO, Government, Military, Police, etc. to MOVE, at last, and in a decisive way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoon Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, davehowden said: Good news indeed. Yes, really "good news"........... for the General. Like the assassination of Trotsky was good news for Stalin and that of Ernst Rohm good news for Hitler. Edited March 6, 2017 by Enoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 18 hours ago, MorristheRunt said: Interesting move by the new king, and hopefully the first of many. Despite a lot of reservations, maybe he could really shake this country up, and leave a fitting legacy for generations to come. Get to work on the green shirts next hopefully. unable to comment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrum Posted March 6, 2017 Share Posted March 6, 2017 19 hours ago, KKr said: The Royal Intervention displays the Wisdom of the Royal Dynasty. Long Live the King. The above post should be removed. ThaiVisa Forum Rules: " By law, the Thai Royal Family are above politics. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. " Good for the goose, as they say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artisi Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 2 hours ago, Centrum said: The above post should be removed. ThaiVisa Forum Rules: " By law, the Thai Royal Family are above politics. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. " Good for the goose, as they say. Well, take it up with the moderators but bear in mind that the TV rules also state in effect - the moderators decision is final and as they have allowed it to remain you are in conflict with the rules, good for the goose etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Who bets for the next patriarch being Luang Pu Buddha Isara? Oh god no. Lets all prayIf Buddha Isara does make it to the top of the religious establishment those of us here who do believe in Almighty God, and practice that belief, whether it is through The Bible or The Koran, are likely going to be doing rather a lot of praying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 Stripping this fellow of his (Royal granted) clerical rank is as pointed out a royal perogative. Going after him for alleged criminal activity is also justified, even if, as so often here I am sceptical about the motives for tackling "high end criminals"; but going after the owner of Khlong Luang Market because she has allowed protestors to gather there rather smacks of something else. Give it to us then 'JAG': multiple choice question: do you think the owner of Khlong Luan market did that: a) because he is a good and generous human being living according to the real principles of Buddhism; b. because he has become a dedicated follower of the deviant Dhammakaya cult; c) because he has a fixation on the safron colour the 'monks' wear; d) because he loves money a lot and the presence of that 'temple' next to his market brings him a lot of it; e) because he is yet another alien, who wants to stay close to the golden UFO in case of evacuation.I don't know, and anyway your "multiple choice question" rather confines the answer to endorsing one of a number of answers which fit your assumptions - but then that's often the point with " multiple choice questions" isn't it.I'm more interested in why the DSI (an agency of the government) feel it necessary to "punish" someone (she by the way) who shows some sympathy for the sect and it's followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confuscious Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 19 hours ago, MorristheRunt said: My money is on Luang, mad monk, put your money in the sack, Suthep "Sonthi Limthongkul" has given money to measure Wat Oh at least 10 million baht will be considered "Buddhist freedom" to receive the "Throne"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KKr Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Centrum said: The above post should be removed. ThaiVisa Forum Rules: " By law, the Thai Royal Family are above politics. Speculation, comments and discussion of either a political or personal nature are not allowed when discussing HM The King or the Royal family. " Good for the goose, as they say. If it were to be found that the "above post" is not in line with Forum Rules, which it is not, being an objective observation in a duly Respectful and Sincere manner, then I do not mind deletion or suspension of the account. Edited March 7, 2017 by KKr putting a comma in the right position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champers Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 It should be noted that the King has acted in response to a request from the Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 1 hour ago, champers said: It should be noted that the King has acted in response to a request from the Government. correction......... unelected govt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kannot Posted March 7, 2017 Share Posted March 7, 2017 4 hours ago, JAG said: If Buddha Isara does make it to the top of the religious establishment those of us here who do believe in Almighty God, and practice that belief, whether it is through The Bible or The Koran, are likely going to be doing rather a lot of praying! which like ALL prayers will remain unanswered, yet the faithful never wonder why Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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