snoop1130 Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Red-shirt leaders probably doomed: Jatuporn By The Nation Red-shirt leaders will probably be killed or jailed, key leader Jatuporn Prompan said on Wednesday. Such a conclusion was based on his political experiences over the past decade, said Jatuporn, chairman of the red-shirt United Front for Democracy against Dictatorship (UDD). “After working with the UDD in our political fight over the past 10 years, I am well aware of our destiny. Finally, we have two choices – getting killed or being put in jail,” he said. Jatuporn, who has been released on bail during a trial on terrorism charges, joined a large group of red-shirt leaders and supporters visiting 13 UDD figures detained at a remand prison in Chon Buri in connection with the disruption of the Asean Summit in 2009. On Tuesday, the Pattaya Provincial Court delivered the Appeal Court verdict against Arisman Pongruangrong, Nisit Sinthuprai, Payap Panket, Worachai Hema and other red-shirt leaders convicted of leading thousands of red-shirt protesters into the summit venue. The 13 red-shirt leaders were each sentenced to four years’ imprisonment. At the time, government leaders from Asean countries were about to meet with dialogue partners at the Royal Cliff Beach Hotel in Pattaya. The break-in resulted in the meeting being cancelled and the participants being evacuated in dramatic fashion. The Appeal Court in effect upheld the ruling by a lower court in March 2015. On Wednesday, more than 50 people went to visit the detained red-shirt leaders at the Pattaya Remand Prison, also known as Nong Pla Lai prison, in Chon Buri’s Bang Lamung district. The visitors included family members and red-shirt leaders, including Jatuporn, Nuttawut Saikuar, Weng Tojirakarn and Thida Thawornseth. The visit lasted about half an hour, after which the red-shirt leaders talked to the media. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30309946 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-3-22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 we will burn down Bangkok - they are terrorists, an armed organisation responsible for bombings - murders - grenade attacks - intimidation and more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) No doubt according to Buddhist faith they are 'doomed', to have a long stay in the hottest hell available... But killed... Though some of them would deserve it, I don't think so, who would make his hands dirty doing that, and give a good opportunity to the red thugs to create some more bloodshed and evil? As for rotting in jail, that's no doubt where Jatu and consorts do belong, but it seems they wear the right magic amulets, as, time after time, again and again, they become 'suspended sentences' or are let to go on with their stinking propaganda by an 'N'th bail, but maybe by judges put in place by their creator and sponsor, at the time he was the dictator-in-spe of this medieval country... Edited March 22, 2017 by bangrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tukkytuktuk Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 8 minutes ago, smedly said: we will burn down Bangkok - they are terrorists, an armed organisation responsible for bombings - murders - grenade attacks - intimidation and more Are you referring to the red shirts? The yellow shirts are also terrorists then as they have taken the lives of the innocent. What happened to reconciliation? Love thy brother, all Thai's together, building a better future, healing the wounds and becoming a strong, patriotic nation. Stop the hate Smedly, a Thai is a Thai. Love thy neighbour, we do not want a Sri Lankan type ending to this countries political divisions. We want to move on, make love, not war, peace my brother. X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smedly Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 15 minutes ago, tukkytuktuk said: Are you referring to the red shirts? The yellow shirts are also terrorists then as they have taken the lives of the innocent. What happened to reconciliation? Love thy brother, all Thai's together, building a better future, healing the wounds and becoming a strong, patriotic nation. Stop the hate Smedly, a Thai is a Thai. Love thy neighbour, we do not want a Sri Lankan type ending to this countries political divisions. We want to move on, make love, not war, peace my brother. X what are yellow shirts ? I see only a redshirt organisation active in Thailand, I believe that is what this topic is about, if I could identify any other terrorist organisation in Thailand I would be just as critical of them too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 You have to wonder why, after 3 years, the Junta haven't jailed / disposed of the core red shirt leadership. Could it be that they don't want to risk lighting a fire which they might not be able to control? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangrak Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 9 minutes ago, JAG said: You have to wonder why, after 3 years, the Junta haven't jailed / disposed of the core red shirt leadership. Could it be that they don't want to risk lighting a fire which they might not be able to control? And when you'd be right, what would that say about those 'red shirts'...? Not that they are a peacefull organisation seeking the establishment of democracy in Thailand, is it...? Rather a band of violent thugs organised into an utterly dangerous armed militia, or is it rather someones private army, next to his pretorian guard clad in brown, wouldn't you say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuchulainn Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 ...........Red-shirt leaders will probably be killed or jailed............... Let's hope the former. Failing that, the latter will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweatalot Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Red-shirt leaders probably doomed: and right so that's what they deserve I wonder why some of them are still not jailed they incited unrest, they called to burn down Bangkok, they had their followers cheer when children were killed - compare this with the mushroom picking couple this scum needs to be extinguished Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonmoon Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Well if the junta or democrats can really do a good job of running the country, nobody would want to join the red shirts anymore. Everyone would be busy making money n having a good secure life. I sure hope the Junta can eradicate the reds in this way rather than killing or jailing them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunderland Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 I'm not a red shirt fan, but the thought of living in yellow submarines is worrying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baboon Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, smedly said: we will burn down Bangkok - they are terrorists, an armed organisation responsible for bombings - murders - grenade attacks - intimidation and more You might as well label each and every Trump or Brexit voter a moron or fascist. It patently isn't the case and all it does is drag the human race down even further down the path of hatred and war. How to tackle division and polarisation? God knows, but sticking a red hot branding iron into the forehead of those you oppose isn't it... Edited March 22, 2017 by baboon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candide Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Meanwhile, PAD and PDRC leaders..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakeupplease Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 6 hours ago, tukkytuktuk said: Are you referring to the red shirts? The yellow shirts are also terrorists then as they have taken the lives of the innocent. What happened to reconciliation? Love thy brother, all Thai's together, building a better future, healing the wounds and becoming a strong, patriotic nation. Stop the hate Smedly, a Thai is a Thai. Love thy neighbour, we do not want a Sri Lankan type ending to this countries political divisions. We want to move on, make love, not war, peace my brother. X At last someone with the right idea unlike so many others and yellow not a Terr, O my its the biggest organized Ts in the area led by a guy who has been responsible for many many deaths, Propaganda can make some with a low IQ think as they do. Silly people, time has a habit of showing up those who are naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeneeds Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 Vanquished vs victor victor vs vanquished "Do not impose on others what you yourself, do not desire" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAG Posted March 22, 2017 Share Posted March 22, 2017 And when you'd be right, what would that say about those 'red shirts'...? Not that they are a peacefull organisation seeking the establishment of democracy in Thailand, is it...? Rather a band of violent thugs organised into an utterly dangerous armed militia, or is it rather someones private army, next to his pretorian guard clad in brown, wouldn't you say?No, if you can wipe the froth from you mouth and look beyond your stream of bigoted cliches, it might suggest that the Junta realise that popular support for their presence is not as universal as they claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trogers Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Ahhh...How can we do without such democratic warriors and their roles, shown during the protests of farmers when the latter did not get paid for their pledged rice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilsonandson Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 At last someone with the right idea unlike so many others and yellow not a Terr, O my its the biggest organized Ts in the area led by a guy who has been responsible for many many deaths, Propaganda can make some with a low IQ think as they do. Silly people, time has a habit of showing up those who are naive.The right idea is love. This is a time of mourning for all Thai people. Stop the hatred and begin the love. Work together, no more divisions, no more blame. Move on Thailand. The hub of South East Asia. Show everyone what a great nation Thailand can be.That is my opinion as a foreigner living here. What Thai people do is of course up to them. Through all the up and down of politics, protests and coups, it has always been a pleasure to have the opportunity to live in this wonderful country and it's friendly people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowboat Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Thai rak Thai, nonexistent True representative government, will probably never happen again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesimps Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 Still waiting for Suthep, Issara and co to be brought to book for occupying Bangkok and govt buildings for three months, not to mention blockading the polling stations. Makes what happened at the Royal Cliff Beach seem trivial. Reconciliation my rear end, it's the eradication of a whole political party and its allies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomfiddler Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 10 hours ago, Cuchulainn said: ...........Red-shirt leaders will probably be killed or jailed............... Let's hope the former. Failing that, the latter will do. And hopefully their paymaster :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klauskunkel Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 12 hours ago, snoop1130 said: Red-shirt leaders will probably be killed or jailed, key leader Jatuporn Prompan said on Wednesday. If you committed a crime, then you should be jailed. Did you or the group you lead commit a crime? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 10 hours ago, JAG said: You have to wonder why, after 3 years, the Junta haven't jailed / disposed of the core red shirt leadership. Could it be that they don't want to risk lighting a fire which they might not be able to control? I doubt that is the reason, the reason is the slow court proceedings, these guys are now convicted for a 2009 event. The 2010 stuff where people like Jatuporn let red shirts bring benzine to burn BKK is still in the motions. There is no need to make up charges these guys thought they were above the law and slowly (real real real slow) the law is catching up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 5 hours ago, candide said: Meanwhile, PAD and PDRC leaders..... You mean like Sondi who is in jail... meanwhile Thaksin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 9 hours ago, baboon said: You might as well label each and every Trump or Brexit voter a moron or fascist. It patently isn't the case and all it does is drag the human race down even further down the path of hatred and war. How to tackle division and polarisation? God knows, but sticking a red hot branding iron into the forehead of those you oppose isn't it... Not every red shirt is bad.. but a large part is quite bad and proven when they were cheering about the attack in Trad. I find it real vile if supporters cheer for an armed attack on opponents with casualties. More then a few cheered for this event, now I don't know how that looks to you.. but to me it looks real bad and brands at least a large part of them as supporters of terrorism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 11 hours ago, smedly said: we will burn down Bangkok - they are terrorists, an armed organisation responsible for bombings - murders - grenade attacks - intimidation and more And the snipers that shot unarmed nurses and taxi drivers. Study the history of the country to understand why the poor are angry. They have been oppressed for 1000's of years and today is no different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 17 minutes ago, robblok said: Not every red shirt is bad.. but a large part is quite bad and proven when they were cheering about the attack in Trad. I find it real vile if supporters cheer for an armed attack on opponents with casualties. More then a few cheered for this event, now I don't know how that looks to you.. but to me it looks real bad and brands at least a large part of them as supporters of terrorism. When the ANC in South Africa killed innocent civilians in that country, the Netherlands and the rest of the world called them freedom fighters and continued to support them. Yet today when the Thai people stand up to fight for equality and freedom, you call them terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOUTHERNSTAR Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 26 minutes ago, robblok said: You mean like Sondi who is in jail... meanwhile Thaksin. For every yellow shirt in jail there are 10 red shirts in jail. In many countries Sondhi would have been shot for treason and Thaksin would have been in jail. But here Sondhi is your hero and Thaksin the evil one in exile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robblok Posted March 23, 2017 Share Posted March 23, 2017 4 minutes ago, SOUTHERNSTAR said: When the ANC in South Africa killed innocent civilians in that country, the Netherlands and the rest of the world called them freedom fighters and continued to support them. Yet today when the Thai people stand up to fight for equality and freedom, you call them terrorists. I would still call them terrorists.. the moment you take civilians on purpose your a terrorist. These reds and those cheering were terrorists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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