ghworker2010 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I had a heavy stainless steel frying pan from France that has recently perished. I would like to buy a new quality pan that is not going to give me cancer. Are the non stick varieties bad for ones health? What is the safest pan to buy and where can I buy it in Bangas (bkk). thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Buy some cast ones from Raro. http://raro.asia/pan-pictures/ Which reminds me, I need to buy one if his LePot's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crossy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I agree, cast iron are pretty safe (except when being brandished by the wife), sadly Raro has returned to Germany so that source is likely no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 2 minutes ago, Crossy said: I agree, cast iron are pretty safe (except when being brandished by the wife), sadly Raro has returned to Germany so that source is likely no more. Yeah I was just reading that, Passion delivery are listing them though so I'll grab a LePot from there. https://www.passiondelivery.com/collections/cookware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Don Mega said: Buy some cast ones from Raro. http://raro.asia/pan-pictures/ Which reminds me, I need to buy one if his LePot's. Have the LePot. ...It's like picking up a bowling ball (wish it has a bail)..... Plan to use it for baking bread (sourdough hopefully) or crab cioppino or stews/soups as the wife hasn't found a use for it....She uses the 12" pan but prefers a teflon pan.....We keep the stainless pan with the camping gear & remark how nice it is but it never seems favored at home...... Some sing the praises of blackened carboned steel pans.....Properties of steel & cast iron..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) After many useless non-stick coated aluminium pans, I decided to get a proper stainless steel one from IKEA. Heavy yes, but fantastic quality, easy to cook and easy to clean. A pan that will last a lifetime and more. Edited April 29, 2017 by OmegaRacer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just now, OmegaRacer said: After many useless non-stick coated aluminium pans, I decided to get a proper one from IKEA. Heavy yes, but fantastic quality, easy to cook and easy to clean. A pan that will last a lifetime and more. Did they supply the allen key needed to screw the handle on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 No need, I think the handle is riveted or welded on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I got the shock of my life recently when I saw a scientist's reaction on Television to the question " Are Teflon (non-stick) frying pans safe to use"?... with a hugh gulp he blurted out...."Absolutely not, never use them" he said. I think he was refering to the risk of cancer, but cannot remember for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmegaRacer Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Yes, and they inevitably deteriorate very quickly. Spend a little more, buy a proper (stainless or cast iron) pan and never look back. I have to say, it was one of the best buys in recent years for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOS1 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Do a Google search for "Korea King". Got one (diamond series) for xmas last year, and it is the only pan I use now. Just wonderful. They had a recent special: 3300 Bt for 2. I bought 2 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgrahmm Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 ^^^ Teflon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soalbundy Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 one with a handle that the wife can lift. You live in Bangkok breathing in all that filthy air and are worried about getting cancer from a frying pan ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone88 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 28 minutes ago, soalbundy said: one with a handle that the wife can lift. You live in Bangkok breathing in all that filthy air and are worried about getting cancer from a frying pan ? Exactly my thoughts when I read the op. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gold Star Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 1 hour ago, soalbundy said: one with a handle that the wife can lift. You live in Bangkok breathing in all that filthy air and are worried about getting cancer from a frying pan ? Some might be lucky to live long enough to worry about cancer. Depending on the person's wife, either one light enough not to get hurt, or heavy enough that she can't lift/swing/throw easily. Choose one with dull rounded edges so they don't leave a deep gash on your forehead, preferably kept safely wrapped tightly in a pillow, outside the house, with the knives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toshiba66 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Ceramic is now supposed to be best I'm told. Not sure about the risk of cancer bit. Probably got more risk of cancer from the dishwashing liquid used to clean them with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gold Star said: Some might be lucky to live long enough to worry about cancer. Depending on the person's wife, either one light enough not to get hurt, or heavy enough that she can't lift/swing/throw easily. Choose one with dull rounded edges so they don't leave a deep gash on your forehead, preferably kept safely wrapped tightly in a pillow, outside the house, with the knives... I find the wife issue to be her scrubbing the goddamn frying pans with a Brillo pad and ruining the non stick surface. That got old really quick so using Meyer Prestige Cuisine stuff now. http://www.meyerthailand.com/en/prestige/skillets.asp Edited April 29, 2017 by Don Mega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie the Minx Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The non stick or teflon variety definitely a no no just get a small one to do scrambled eggs in and only use it for that. Aluminium is supposed to give you cancer #note aluminium foil. Best pans are cast iron for general cooking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 14 minutes ago, Minnie the Minx said: The non stick or teflon variety definitely a no no just get a small one to do scrambled eggs in and only use it for that. Aluminium is supposed to give you cancer #note aluminium foil. Best pans are cast iron for general cooking. Ensure that the base is suitable for an induction cooker. That's the way to go if you're in an all-electric kitchen. I have a single plate model, ideal for a quick cook-up, and the controls are 1 - 10 for heating and an electronic timer for up to one hour. Cost less than 1000baht. Just make sure that your wife or friend knows how to use a non-stick pan. Otherwise they'll gouge out the teflon when they use metal kitchen tools or even steel wool! Teflon non-stick products are sold around the world. I'd like to see the scientific evidence that it's a carcinogen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnie the Minx Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Always use a rubber spatula with teflon, as I said only for scrambled eggs. Can't link you from this device sorry on the carcinogenic issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Mega Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, masuk said: Ensure that the base is suitable for an induction cooker. Had a few issues with that early on so I had some steel cut to put on the induction thingo then I put the pots and pans ontop of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwasaki Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 5 hours ago, ghworker2010 said: What is the safest pan to buy The one in my Mrs hands a wok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonywillo Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Minnie the Minx said: The non stick or teflon variety definitely a no no just get a small one to do scrambled eggs in and only use it for that. Aluminium is supposed to give you cancer #note aluminium foil. Best pans are cast iron for general cooking. I see some 80 year olds in the village use these aluminium pans for cooking, probably used them for the past 50 years. None are dying from cancer related deaths. Sounds like another BPA plastic bottle conspiracy. The aluminium oxide we absorb with Deodorant is higher dose than you will receive from any cooking utensils and we use this every single day. Edited April 29, 2017 by tonywillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khunPer Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Good old-fashioned cast iron should be safe – stainless steel probably also – however non-stick granite and marble are supposed to be Okay. I also brought frying pan from Europe, non-stick "safe" granite – and found that in later years similar products, granite and marble, are available i Thailand; in both Markro and supermarkets like BigC, and Tesco-Lotus, and even HomePro. Avoid use metal tools, even granite-makers claim their product can stand it; presumably wood is better (more safe?) than plastic. Probably most important is, that when the non-stick pan begins to look used – i.e. the non-stick surface got scratches or begin to peel – get rid of it, and replace with a new; they are relative affordable. May be similar with teflon coating, I by old-fashioned warning try to avoid, but I'm not religious, so I also have a tiny teflon-pan we often use for making scrambled eggs for one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topt Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Don Mega said: I find the wife issue to be her scrubbing the goddamn frying pans with a Brillo pad and ruining the non stick surface. That got old really quick so using Meyer Prestige Cuisine stuff now. http://www.meyerthailand.com/en/prestige/skillets.asp I used "non stick" coated pans in the UK for years and ended up with Meyer Anolon. The problem with any decent non stick pan is, as you mention, how people try to clean them. For the better quality, like Meyer, minimal cleaning is all you should need and they will stay looking good - as long as someone does not stick them in a dish washer........... As always unless price is not an issue (like for you Don Mega ) you just weigh up the pros and cons of each type relative to the cost. For the OP maybe have a read here although a few years old - http://www.thekitchn.com/a-guide-to-the-best-material-for-pots-and-pans-pros-cons-168241 but DYOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Just buy the cheapest pan available than give it to your wife and let her use it only in your outdoor kitchen.I assume this is exactly what most of these Isaan farang expats have done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
55Jay Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 8 hours ago, Gold Star said: Some might be lucky to live long enough to worry about cancer. Depending on the person's wife, either one light enough not to get hurt, or heavy enough that she can't lift/swing/throw easily. Choose one with dull rounded edges so they don't leave a deep gash on your forehead, preferably kept safely wrapped tightly in a pillow, outside the house, with the knives... Are U really afraid of women? Or are you so programmed by feminists that you regurgitate this puzzy whipped nonsense on knee jerk default mode? Man up, fer fuke's sake. If a woman swings a frying pan at your head, take it away from her and smack her upside the head wid it. Then ask her how she bloody well likes it. That's equal and fair, innit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHTel Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Quote Other than the possible risk of flu-like symptoms from breathing in fumes from an overheated Teflon-coated pan, there are no known risks to humans from using Teflon-coated cookware. While PFOA is used in making Teflon, it is not present (or is present in extremely small amounts) in Teflon-coated products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger70 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 That all depends on how old you are,If you at an retirement age it wouldn't matter what pan you buy.By the time you Think that you have developed cancer you would be Expired from old age (: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazza73 Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Many myths surround the cancer causation debate. Yes, the fluoride component of non-stick frypans may cause cancer. There's no meaningful data. Aluminium was at one time linked to Alzheimers. Due to sample contamination. The nickel and chromium components of stainless steel are carcinogenic. Stainless has been around for 100 years. If risk avoidance is the mantra, don't use dishwashing detergents. Don't drink chlorinated water. Don't visit a forest, the terpenes might get you. Ditto deserts, silicosis. If we could all live to 150 years old, by then the primary cause of death would be cancer. Statistically, thanks to modern medicine, our average lifespan has never been longer than it is now. If you are really worried about frypans, stop using them. Frying generates temperatures which assist the formation of carcinogens in the food and fat used. Steaming and boiling do not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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