Illegal operators in South Pattaya told they will have to pay for polluting the sea

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Illegal operators in South Pattaya told they will have to pay for polluting the sea

 

Picture: Siamchon News

 

PATTAYA: -- Illegal operators in South Pattaya have been told they will have to take financial responsibility for clearing up the sea at the resort.

 

The move comes after a damning environment impact report was made public.

 

At a meeting yesterday the Pattaya authorities told them they were throwing almost 1000 cubic meters of filthy polluted water into the sea every day.

 

Not only does that have to stop but the businesses have to pay for the clean up and other work like sewage treatment to ensure the resort is made environmentally friendly.

 

Mayor Anan Charoenchaisri invited 101 South Pattaya businesses such as restaurants, entertainment places, hotels and other firms to the town hall yesterday.

 

The meeting was held after orders came from Interior Minister Anupong Paojinda to get something done about pollution at the resort.

 

Anan accepted that the people he had invited were essentially there illegally but moves to evict them since 1998 were still ongoing.

 

So as a practical measure in the meantime he said that the operators there would have to start paying for the pollution they had caused.

 

The operators were blamed for tossing 24,000 cubic meters of filth - mostly polluted water - into the sea every month. This was contained in an environment impact study conducted since February.

 

They were told they had made money from their businesses - now it was time to give back and start paying for the damage.

 

But despite the tough words the meeting came up with few concrete proposals.

 

A committee is being set up to do that, reported Siamchon News.

 

Source: Siamchon News

 

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[WhizBang]

Ah yes, let's set up a committee.

[WhizBang]

Let's face it, if after almost 20 years you cannot evict them, then nothing short of a S44 decree will dislodge them. 

 

To remove them and demolish these businesses would have a sizeable financial impact on Pattaya and the owners of those businesses, most of whom are very influential people, so not likely to happen.

 

So maybe it is better to legalize them and the start of that process would be making them pony up for the cleanup.

 

[smedly]

19 minutes ago, WhizBang said:

Let's face it, if after almost 20 years you cannot evict them, then nothing short of a S44 decree will dislodge them. 

 

To remove them and demolish these businesses would have a sizeable financial impact on Pattaya and the owners of those businesses, most of whom are very influential people, so not likely to happen.

 

So maybe it is better to legalize them and the start of that process would be making them pony up for the cleanup.

 

don't agree, it will have a positive effect on Pattaya and restore the beach/coast to what it should be, they have started the cleanup at Balihigh which was a dirty contaminated eyesore instead of an area of natural beauty, the west side of walking street should be next and restore the whole beachfront from North to South. I agree that there are powerful people that own these illegal businesses and the only authority that has the power to remove them are the current government, I think it is only a matter of time, I also think that the whole of beach road and the sea front should be pedestrian only with possibly a two way  tram system.

 

The whole beach front could be a pedestrian area of natural beauty right from the North to balihigh where they could build a proper marina and ferry port, all it takes is a little imagination. 

 

Like every other beachfront town/city in Thailand - the illegal encroachers need to be removed, get on with it and turn pattaya seafront into something nice and internationally acceptable.

[Emster23]

".... moves to evict them since 1998 were still ongoing."

 Sounds like good, steady income for some "decision makers".

"Obstruction of justice" is a popular phrase these days. Does such a concept exist here?

[williamgeorgeallen]

i dont expect to see clean water at pattayas beaches in my lifetime. no reason not to collect some fines in the mean time of course.

[Moti24]

"At a meeting yesterday the Pattaya authorities told them they were throwing almost 1000 cubic meters of filthy polluted water into the sea every day.  Not only does that have to stop but the businesses have to pay for the clean up and other work like sewage treatment to ensure the resort is made environmentally friendly.  Mayor Anan Charoenchaisri invited 101 South Pattaya businesses such as restaurants, entertainment places, hotels and other firms to the town hall yesterday.  The meeting was held after orders came from Interior Minister Anupong Paojinda to get something done about pollution at the resort.  Anan accepted that the people he had invited were essentially there illegally but moves to evict them since 1998 were still ongoing."

 

Looks like pass-the-buck time!  The Pattaya authorities have been trying to evict these illegal businesses for the past 19 years.  But due to a constant flow of brown envelopes, has failed to do so.  They 've also failed to provide an environmentally system in the first place.  Now, the powers to be are demanding that the illegal businesses should foot the bill for the pollution they have caused.

 

I can see a list of top brass scapegoats to take the blame.  Whatever happens, these illegal businesses will probably still be operating in 19 years time, and the sea will still be full of shit.

[bbi1]

Does this mean the Jetski scammers are going to have to double their fees they charge when scamming tourists?

[phantomfiddler]

A very simple public health engineering solution ! Make every business along Walking Street install, at their own expense, what is called a "wet well", which is basically a storage tank below the floor. It would not need to be huge. Set it at such a level that all toilets and sinks can drain into it, install a float or water-level switch operated pump so that whenever the tank was full the pump would cut in and discharge the contents into an "interceptor" laid along Beach Road set at such a fall that it would flow to the existing pump station just north of the start of Walking Street. The only problem is that the Thais do not seem to grasp the fact that any drain has to be set to an exact and continuous fall producing a minimum flow velocity of 3 ft per second, and I would not like to be the guy who had to sit there and ensure that the installation correctly adhered to the plan !

[just.a.thought]

In the meantime the city's sewertreatment plant in Jomtien sits empty??....

[Destiny1990]

I recently read that beach encroaching structures are no longer accepted due to the new marine laws?

Edited June 16, 2017 by Destiny1990

[johng]

In the meantime the city's sewertreatment plant in Jomtien sits empty??....

Yes seems so

[KenKadz]

"despite the tough words the meeting came up with few concrete proposals"

More Thainess, and no balls to make a decision!

[Golden Triangle]

I'm currently sitting on a beach on Koh Samet, the bay is lined with with hotels, resorts and restaurants, the water is crystal clear, is it so difficult for Pattaya to do likewise ?? Of course that was a rhetorical question as the answer is obvious.

 

City hall, no matter who is in power are a bunch of tossers. 

[Juan B Tong]

Just member that its the poor girl doing hip thrusts that gives Thailand a bad reputation

[Basil B]

6 hours ago, phantomfiddler said:

A very simple public health engineering solution ! Make every business along Walking Street install, at their own expense, what is called a "wet well", which is basically a storage tank below the floor. It would not need to be huge. Set it at such a level that all toilets and sinks can drain into it, install a float or water-level switch operated pump so that whenever the tank was full the pump would cut in and discharge the contents into an "interceptor" laid along Beach Road set at such a fall that it would flow to the existing pump station just north of the start of Walking Street. The only problem is that the Thais do not seem to grasp the fact that any drain has to be set to an exact and continuous fall producing a minimum flow velocity of 3 ft per second, and I would not like to be the guy who had to sit there and ensure that the installation correctly adhered to the plan !

I can see it now they all put tanks below the floor... have you seen under the floors of those buildings, lucky if the is a any sand at low tide, give the a few months of salt water and they will be self emptying....

[brucec64]

Take a walk down the main beach on samed after dark, and you will see a pipe going from each resort into the ocean, discharging raw sewage. The water may appear clear, but swim at your own risk.

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[digbeth]

13 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

I'm currently sitting on a beach on Koh Samet, the bay is lined with with hotels, resorts and restaurants, the water is crystal clear, is it so difficult for Pattaya to do likewise ?? Of course that was a rhetorical question as the answer is obvious.

 

City hall, no matter who is in power are a bunch of tossers. 

Koh Samed has a whole beach that has hotels and restaurants encroaching on national park land, so that's even worse than walking street

[mok199]

and yet again the environment suffers...as the cycle of corruption and politeness wanders on its pathetic course..

[Golden Triangle]

8 hours ago, digbeth said:

Koh Samed has a whole beach that has hotels and restaurants encroaching on national park land, so that's even worse than walking street

I appreciate what you are saying, my point was that a beach about the same length and with all the infrastructure that goes with it, hotels, bars, resorts and restaurants and the sea is crystal clear, so someone is doing something right, go to Pattaya beach and crap in the water and you would effectively clean it up,  

[YetAnother]

this is SO thailand; the polluters care only that they got caught; responsibility here ? HA

[digbeth]

15 hours ago, Golden Triangle said:

I appreciate what you are saying, my point was that a beach about the same length and with all the infrastructure that goes with it, hotels, bars, resorts and restaurants and the sea is crystal clear, so someone is doing something right, go to Pattaya beach and crap in the water and you would effectively clean it up,  

I don't think there are infrastructure on Koh Samed, give it a few years and It'll be like Pattaya

 

[fforest1]

On 6/16/2017 at 0:07 PM, smedly said:

don't agree, it will have a positive effect on Pattaya and restore the beach/coast to what it should be, they have started the cleanup at Balihigh which was a dirty contaminated eyesore instead of an area of natural beauty, the west side of walking street should be next and restore the whole beachfront from North to South. I agree that there are powerful people that own these illegal businesses and the only authority that has the power to remove them are the current government, I think it is only a matter of time, I also think that the whole of beach road and the sea front should be pedestrian only with possibly a two way  tram system.

 

The whole beach front could be a pedestrian area of natural beauty right from the North to balihigh where they could build a proper marina and ferry port, all it takes is a little imagination. 

 

Like every other beachfront town/city in Thailand - the illegal encroachers need to be removed, get on with it and turn pattaya seafront into something nice and internationally acceptable.

What a load of rubbish....

Pattaya is unique because is NOT like all the other internationally acceptable places...

Lets see there are 1000s and 1000s internationally acceptable places. and there is one Pattaya....

Some people are of such small minds that they feel uncomfortable if some place does not fit in their cookie cutter world....

 

Tourist (Pattaya's life blood)are attracted to the uniqueness

of Pattaya....They have been coming here for 50 years because Pattaya is not like all the other 1000s and 1000s internationally acceptable places....

Edited June 18, 2017 by fforest1