webfact Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Two teenage boys on motorcycle killed by ‘revenge’ hit and run By The Nation AYUTTHAYA: -- Two teenage boys were killed when their motorcycle was hit by a car early on Monday following a dispute with the car’s driver, the boys’ friends told police. Police said the hit-and-run incident happened at 2am on the outbound Phaholyothin Road in Tambon Chieng Rak Noi in Ayutthaya’s Bang Pa-in district. The two teenagers were identified as Natthakan Butrwong, 18, and Phanuwat Jomekui, 18. Their friends told police that they were hanging out in front of the Tesco Lotus shopping mall in Nava Nakhon and had a dispute with the car’s driver who was playing loud music. The friends said the two were returning home on a motorcycle when the car came up from behind, hit them and fled the scene. Police said they would check CCTV footage to try to identify the car driver. Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/30319134 -- © Copyright The Nation 2017-06-26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just1Voice Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Yet another shining example of Thai Male Ego on display. Have an argument? Disagree with someone? Use you car, or a gun, or a club, to kill them. Argument settled and "face" restored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave67 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I think only yesterday there was a car with family inside attacked with baseball bat and them rammed into the back of a truck all because of a beep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLang Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 A wounded Thai is a dangerous animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PremiumLane Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 31 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Most dangerous roads in the World IMO. Road rage seems to be rampant now as well, with daily attacks with weapons, rammings and vehicular manslaughter all a regular occurrence. I have said it before and will countless times again, this is what happens when you jump a single generation from buffalo to a motor vehicle. There simply isn't the time to adapt, whether that be proper driver education, law enforcement, build proper infrastructure or to learn basic skills in charge of a motor vehicle. All these have taken place over decades in other countries. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk. Confirmation biased bs also seems to be rampant in this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 51 minutes ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Most dangerous roads in the World IMO. Road rage seems to be rampant now as well, with daily attacks with weapons, rammings and vehicular manslaughter all a regular occurrence. I have said it before and will countless times again, this is what happens when you jump a single generation from buffalo to a motor vehicle. There simply isn't the time to adapt, whether that be proper driver education, law enforcement, build proper infrastructure or to learn basic skills in charge of a motor vehicle. All these have taken place over decades in other countries. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk. There are far more dangerous roads in the world. Far more dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 4 hours ago, PremiumLane said: Confirmation biased bs also seems to be rampant in this forum I disagree as I feel that Father Stack has a case in point. In Western (and Southern) countries we've had the opportunity to experience various motor vehicles, varying power, and more road rules. Here in Thailand, there are many folk who genuinely believe that signs and road markings and speed limits are purely advisory, and I doubt there are road education classes in high school. People go from smaller scooters and motorbikes, into quite high powered vehicles, often with a lack of understanding basic safety, such as seat belts, use of indicators, texting and chatting on the phone, overtaking on blind corners, loading pick-ups with passengers, and of course, you have the 'saving face' culture where a misplaced toot or finger can result in death. When did anyone see a speed camera, a booze bus, a red light camera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destiny1990 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Well he teached them a lesson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmarZaid Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Murder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxe1200 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 23 minutes ago, Destiny1990 said: Well he teached them a lesson. The correct form is “taught“. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chickenslegs Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 28 minutes ago, OmarZaid said: Murder Yes. It seems that the car driver deliberately pursued the boys and rammed them off the road. The result was predictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Bastos60 said: There are far more dangerous roads in the world. Far more dangerous. Exactly where are they then, I only ask so I am forewarned Edited June 26, 2017 by oldlakey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 minutes ago, oldlakey said: Exactly where are they then, I only ask so I am forwarned Just about every country in Africa. Just about every vehicle you see on the street has caused an accident at some point while it is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mok199 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 we will hear the other side of this story soon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moe666 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Most dangerous roads in the World IMO. Road rage seems to be rampant now as well, with daily attacks with weapons, rammings and vehicular manslaughter all a regular occurrence. I have said it before and will countless times again, this is what happens when you jump a single generation from buffalo to a motor vehicle. There simply isn't the time to adapt, whether that be proper driver education, law enforcement, build proper infrastructure or to learn basic skills in charge of a motor vehicle. All these have taken place over decades in other countries. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk. Then what explains the road rage in the US, cannot ride our bufflo. We have all the things you mention but road rage out the wazoo. O forgot we are not Thais, our road rage is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krataiboy Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 7 hours ago, Bastos60 said: There are far more dangerous roads in the world. Far more dangerous. Not according to the stats. Thailand is No. 2 in the world per capita for road deaths and injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Krataiboy said: Not according to the stats. Thailand is No. 2 in the world per capita for road deaths and injuries. I saw those stats, and guess, nearly all african countries follow in the same range as Thailand but with a 10th of the number of vehicles per capita on the road. In absolute numbers you are right, but those absolute numbers also tell us that per vehicle the fatalities increase 100 fold for the African countries. Absolute numbers are nice, but you need to know how to interpret them correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotchilli Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 15 hours ago, Father Fintan Stack said: Most dangerous roads in the World IMO. Road rage seems to be rampant now as well, with daily attacks with weapons, rammings and vehicular manslaughter all a regular occurrence. I have said it before and will countless times again, this is what happens when you jump a single generation from buffalo to a motor vehicle. There simply isn't the time to adapt, whether that be proper driver education, law enforcement, build proper infrastructure or to learn basic skills in charge of a motor vehicle. All these have taken place over decades in other countries. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk. proper driver education, law enforcement, build proper infrastructure or to learn basic skills in charge of a motor vehicle. All these have taken place over decades in other countries. But will never stop an a-hole being an a-hole !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foozool Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Dangerous vs dangerous. No need to hear the other side of story. We hear those stories everyday. This is story of this city especially after midnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 OK the headline is new but the content is the same as hundreds of previous posts . I think we will all agree that road behaviour and driving / riding skills are not going to change any time soon . It would appear that it is engrained in the way of life here . I am more surprised if , when I am out on the roads, a Thai drives with consideration and sensible skills . E.G. how often have you been let out from a side road to merge into the mainstream traffic or even to turn right ? you have to fight your way there . They have no signal to let you pull out or invite you to go before them . Quick flash of headlights used in most European countries means please proceed , over here it is I am coming through or there is a police check ahead . The same culture and mind think is apparent in many of the Thai peoples life style , what you see on the surface is not what you will necessarily get but of course there are good and bad in all countries . Life is cheap here and many actions are taken without any concern to the consequences . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 killer over-reacted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELVIS123456 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 12 hours ago, masuk said: I disagree as I feel that Father Stack has a case in point. In Western (and Southern) countries we've had the opportunity to experience various motor vehicles, varying power, and more road rules. Here in Thailand, there are many folk who genuinely believe that signs and road markings and speed limits are purely advisory, and I doubt there are road education classes in high school. People go from smaller scooters and motorbikes, into quite high powered vehicles, often with a lack of understanding basic safety, such as seat belts, use of indicators, texting and chatting on the phone, overtaking on blind corners, loading pick-ups with passengers, and of course, you have the 'saving face' culture where a misplaced toot or finger can result in death. When did anyone see a speed camera, a booze bus, a red light camera? I agree with 99% of what you said, but not 1/3 of the last part. Yes, there needs to be a lot more enforcement etc etc etc. But the last thing needed is thousands of speed cameras - they are nothing but a money making exercise for Govt - and they are rampant in my western home country. Booze yes, red light yes, police with mobile speed cameras at bad spots yes. policeman doing their job yes. BUT you let these (***) in Govt know they can make lots of money from installing a speed camera and you will regret it big time - they will be everywhere. Recently back home an election promise was made to drastically reduce speed cameras - eg. there was 19 between the airport and the city centre - that Party won. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdkane Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 18 hours ago, PremiumLane said: Confirmation biased bs also seems to be rampant in this forum What exactly do you mean? Please spell it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masuk Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 12 hours ago, chickenslegs said: Yes. It seems that the car driver deliberately pursued the boys and rammed them off the road. The result was predictable. So that becomes pre-meditated murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LazySlipper Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 What I like most about this forum and this topic is that some here are crucifying the 50 year old guy in Udon who despite being stupid did not intend to kill the old lady and her grandson. "Make him pay through the teeth!!!" some claim... I do not endorse what he did--don't get me wrong. End result--INVOLUNYARY MANSLAUGHTER But this guy... deliberately targeted two (maybe stupid kids... who knows...) and killed them with his four wheel weapon... End result--MURDER Because he is Thai, chances are if he is caught he will be treated with a far less harsh judgement than the falang guy... Sickens me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boomerangutang Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Bastos60 said: Just about every country in Africa. Just about every vehicle you see on the street has caused an accident at some point while it is used. I was in Namibia in December, driving a rented car for 9 days. Drivers there are miles above Thais in terms of decent driving habits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bastos60 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 3 hours ago, boomerangutang said: I was in Namibia in December, driving a rented car for 9 days. Drivers there are miles above Thais in terms of decent driving habits. But how many cars on the road compared to Thai? That does make a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangtip2 Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Guess if there is no CCTV footage it will just be forgotten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quandow Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 It's not just Thailand. The whole WORLD is in a pressure cooker and people are blowing up over senseless garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldlakey Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 23 hours ago, Bastos60 said: Just about every country in Africa. Just about every vehicle you see on the street has caused an accident at some point while it is used. As the piece of string once said to the clothes peg Fraid Knot One country and thats Libya which is a failed state meets your criteria, possible because some halfwit insists on pointing his AK47 in their direction I suggest you stick to comtemplating your navel rather than posting BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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