Trial of Thailand's Yingluck fails to break Shinawatra machine

[webfact]

Trial of Thailand's Yingluck fails to break Shinawatra machine

By Amy Sawitta Lefevre and Panu Wongcha-um

 

FILE PHOTO: Former Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra greets supporters as she arrives at the Supreme Court for a trial on criminal negligence looking into her role in a debt-ridden rice subsidy scheme during her administration, in Bangkok, Thailand, August 5, 2016. REUTERS/Jorge Silva/File Photo

 

BANGKOK/KHON KAEN (Reuters) - As the trial of former Thai Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra over an extravagant rice subsidy programme winds to a close, her rural supporters are resisting attempts by the ruling junta to silence her family's political machine.

 

Yingluck and her Puea Thai Party say the trial is politically motivated, aimed at discrediting a populist movement that has won every election since 2001.

 

Yingluck's brother Thaksin Shinawatra first introduced the rice programmes before he himself was ousted in a 2006 coup. But Yingluck took it a step further by offering to buy rice from farmers at up to 50 per cent above market prices.

 

The measure helped her sweep to power in the 2011 general election. But government losses from the scheme -- which also distorted global rice prices -- helped fuel protests that led to her removal from power days before the 2014 coup.

 

If found guilty, Yingluck like her brother Thaksin, would be disqualified from becoming premier again.

 

Thaksin has been living in self-imposed exile for 11 years to avoid serving a two-year sentence over a corrupt land deal.

 

That has left political circles guessing who would lead the party in the next election, scheduled for next year, and whether that leader could possibly be someone outside the Shinawatra clan that has dominated the movement until now.

 

UNCHALLENGED IN NORTHEAST

 

Farmers from the Shinawatra powerbase in the northeast told Reuters they would vote for the Puea Thai Party again in the next election.

 

"The Yingluck rice scheme made rice farmers prosperous from having a reliable income that came on time," said Paisan Pachanda, 59, a rice farmer and co-operative leader in Khon Kaen, a major commercial hub that lies on a plateau in the centre of the northeast region.

 

"If there's an election . . . people in the northeast will still vote for the Puea Thai Party, even if there is no Shinawatra in the party," he said.

 

Even the rival Democrat Party concedes Puea Thai remains unchallenged in the Northeast.

 

"Puea Thai Party's political base, its MPs and politicians, have developed strong networks in the northeast," said Ong-art Klampaiboon, deputy leader of the Democrat Party. "So even if the party changes its leadership it is unlikely that it will affect its strong bonds on the ground," he told Reuters.

 

Asked about Puea Thai's popularity, Lieutenant General Sansern Kaewkamnerd, a spokesman for the government, said: "The people get to decide who they want to represent them."

 

RICE LEGACY

 

Yingluck, whose government was ousted in a 2014 military coup, faces up to 10 years in jail if found guilty of negligence over her role in the rice programme.

 

The last hearing in her 2-year long case will be at a Bangkok court on Friday. A verdict is expected after closing statements are delivered in a few weeks' time.

 

"The rice subsidy scheme was a state policy declared to parliament. Yet the charge has been brought against me alone in a criminal case," Yingluck told Reuters in a written reply to questions. "No other government has been charged over its public policies," she said.

 

Yingluck, though banned from politics, remains the unofficial face of the party and toured Thailand extensively last year, meeting with rural supporters.

 

Junta leader Prayuth Chan-ocha, who led the 2014 coup, has made no secret of his disdain for the Shinawatras. In 2010, he favoured a heavy-handed approach to an army crackdown on red-shirted Shinawatra supporters that killed more than 90 people.

 

The junta's attempts to repress the Shinawatra clan and its movement, and even introduce its own farm subsidies for the politically-powerful farmers, are not working, many in the rice fields of the northeast say.

 

"The more the military pushes the Puea Thai Party the more sympathy the party gets," Rotcharin Waratsirisophon, 54, a party member told Reuters in the northeastern province of Khon Kaen.

 

"Puea Thai is even more popular now."

 

NEXT IN LINE

 

With Yingluck and her brother sidelined for next year's scheduled elections, other potential movement leaders have emerged.

 

One is another of Thaksin's sisters, Monthathip Kovitcharoenkul, 58, a businesswoman.

 

Yingluck has told reporters Monthathip has no interest in politics.

 

The other is veteran politician Sudarat Keyuraphan, 56, a former agriculture minister and a former deputy leader of Thaksin's now-defunct Thai Rak Thai Party.

 

Sources in the party said Sudarat was the favourite but some party members prefer a candidate from within the Shinawatra family.

 

Acting Puea Thai Party secretary-general, Phumtham Wechayachai, said it was too soon to talk about party nominations. "We have to wait until an election date has been confirmed. We can't do much at the moment," Phumtham told Reuters.

 

Politics has been put on hold in Thailand, partly out of respect for late King Bhumibol Adulyadej, who died last October and whose cremation will take place in October.

 

The junta, which calls itself the National Council on Peace and Order, has also cracked down on dissent by tightening restrictions on the media and silencing activists through imposing the kingdom's strict lese-majeste and cybercrime laws.

 

Whatever new government comes in will still have to deal with the military. The new constitution the generals have implemented introduces a military-appointed senate and requires any future government to follow the junta's 20-year development plan.

 

(Additional reporting by Aukkarapon Niyomyat and Panarat Thepgumpanat; Writing by Amy Sawitta Lefevre; Editing by Bill Tarrant)

 

-- © Copyright Reuters 2017-07-18

[baboon]

I am off out for a bike ride. I bet by the time I get back this thread will be 10 pages long...

[Reigntax]

13 minutes ago, baboon said:

I am off out for a bike ride. I bet by the time I get back this thread will be 10 pages long...

 

And all the junta patsies will be rehashing the old rhetoric

Edited July 18, 2017 by Reigntax

[Samui Bodoh]

The simple truth is that the Thai people do not want the Yellow/Greens. But, their choice is taken away.

 

Perhaps those who don't like the Shins could offer an alternative that people actually DO like? 

 

Nah, it is easier to cheat.

[robblok]

13 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

The simple truth is that the Thai people do not want the Yellow/Greens. But, their choice is taken away.

 

Perhaps those who don't like the Shins could offer an alternative that people actually DO like? 

 

Nah, it is easier to cheat.

Wanna beat that I can win an election I just offer the farmers 100% on the rice , off course i would not put it in the central budget because then I would have to cut stuff like education and health care because its too expensive to put that in the budget. Maybe I call it cost neutral and hide it off books or wait for a 2 trillion loan from the Chinese for other stuff but I use that to cover up the losses. (sounds familiair). But then i get into trouble paying farmers (a few months before i step down). But I will blame the banks and if some farmers kill themselves so be it. (sounds familiar). 

 

Then later I step down and make no provisions to pay the farmers and blame others. Meanwhile I will let my ministers profit too by engaging in fake G2G deals so they can sell the rice twice to the system. i also wont account for smuggled in rice from other countries because too many checks would make it hard for my minions to cheat.. they all need to have some money. 

[Samui Bodoh]

8 minutes ago, robblok said:

Wanna beat that I can win an election I just offer the farmers 100% on the rice , off course i would not put it in the central budget because then I would have to cut stuff like education and health care because its too expensive to put that in the budget. Maybe I call it cost neutral and hide it off books or wait for a 2 trillion loan from the Chinese for other stuff but I use that to cover up the losses. (sounds familiair). But then i get into trouble paying farmers (a few months before i step down). But I will blame the banks and if some farmers kill themselves so be it. (sounds familiar). 

 

Then later I step down and make no provisions to pay the farmers and blame others. Meanwhile I will let my ministers profit too by engaging in fake G2G deals so they can sell the rice twice to the system. i also wont account for smuggled in rice from other countries because too many checks would make it hard for my minions to cheat.. they all need to have some money. 

 

Blah blah blah blah blah!

 

Beat them in a fair election and they are done.

 

It ain't rocket science.

 

[JAG]

11 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Blah blah blah blah blah!

 

Beat them in a fair election and they are done.

 

It ain't rocket science.

 

They can't.

 

For some it is a very bitter pill to swallow.

 

The pesky natives won't do what we know is good for them...

[robblok]

13 minutes ago, Samui Bodoh said:

 

Blah blah blah blah blah!

 

Beat them in a fair election and they are done.

 

It ain't rocket science.

 

The point is it is not fair if you don't put stuff in the budget then you can always out buy other people. A fair system would be the Dutch system where election programs are checked by an indipendent agency to see if they are economically feasible. So everyone has the same buying power for policies. Now one side had a huge advantage because they were able to offer a lot more because they did not take a amount of spending the size of the annual health budget in the central budget. Not exactly something I call fair.

 

Just imagine if side a has 1000$ to offer you in benefits and the other side 2000$ because they keep 1000$ off books.. I guess that is indeed the definition of fair in the red playbook.  Fair would be if they all have the same to offer and their plans are checked. That is how it goes in real democracies like the Netherlands. 

[robblok]

4 minutes ago, JAG said:

They can't.

 

For some it is a very bitter pill to swallow.

 

The pesky natives won't do what we know is good for them...

The pesky natives (you call them that way not me) can vote whatever they want. As long as the PTP plays by the rules when in power you won't hear me complain. So no amnesties for Thaksin, keeping all the cost in the central budget instead of hiding them off books. But not sure if that will happen as they want someone with a insider trading conviction to lead the party. Seems like a clear demonstration of PTP morals. 

 

But will be fun to be back in opposition and see you guys struggle to defend the PTP their failures its always easier to shoot holes in plans then to defend them. 

[starky]

14 minutes ago, robblok said:

The pesky natives (you call them that way not me) can vote whatever they want. As long as the PTP plays by the rules when in power you won't hear me complain. So no amnesties for Thaksin, keeping all the cost in the central budget instead of hiding them off books. But not sure if that will happen as they want someone with a insider trading conviction to lead the party. Seems like a clear demonstration of PTP morals. 

 

But will be fun to be back in opposition and see you guys struggle to defend the PTP their failures its always easier to shoot holes in plans then to defend them. 

Yeah no amnesties for Thaksin only the ones the junta give themselves in perpetuity. Maybe after they finish buying all the subs and jets and tanks and increasing their salaries they may through the people a bone. I will avoid the cliche of telling you where to go if you love the Netherlands and that system  so much. I will ask though are you that deluded you think the reds are the only ones not playing fair? How about spitting the dummy every time you lose an election because you are that unpopular that you need to hold a coup every few years to attempt to take the power back. 

  No one defends the ptp it's only you junta fanboys that do that. Most of us understand the ptp party does a lot of shit wrong but being they are the duly elected party whilst they are in government they are their mistakes to make. Once the yellows get duly elected by a popular majority it will be their turn understand the difference between elected and taken by force?

Edited July 18, 2017 by starky

[Chris Lawrence]

18 minutes ago, robblok said:

The pesky natives (you call them that way not me) can vote whatever they want. As long as the PTP plays by the rules when in power you won't hear me complain. So no amnesties for Thaksin, keeping all the cost in the central budget instead of hiding them off books. But not sure if that will happen as they want someone with a insider trading conviction to lead the party. Seems like a clear demonstration of PTP morals. 

 

But will be fun to be back in opposition and see you guys struggle to defend the PTP their failures its always easier to shoot holes in plans then to defend them. 

They need a Gandhi type.

[Artisi]

52 minutes ago, robblok said:

Wanna beat that I can win an election I just offer the farmers 100% on the rice , off course i would not put it in the central budget because then I would have to cut stuff like education and health care because its too expensive to put that in the budget. Maybe I call it cost neutral and hide it off books or wait for a 2 trillion loan from the Chinese for other stuff but I use that to cover up the losses. (sounds familiair). But then i get into trouble paying farmers (a few months before i step down). But I will blame the banks and if some farmers kill themselves so be it. (sounds familiar). 

 

Then later I step down and make no provisions to pay the farmers and blame others. Meanwhile I will let my ministers profit too by engaging in fake G2G deals so they can sell the rice twice to the system. i also wont account for smuggled in rice from other countries because too many checks would make it hard for my minions to cheat.. they all need to have some money. 

Please please don't bring up this again, or all the Thaksin lovers will have to dust-off their keyboards and start a typing frenzy labelling it BS, but guess we have heard it all before and now used to it. 

[Smarter Than You]

42 minutes ago, robblok said:

Wanna beat that I can win an election I just offer the farmers 100% on the rice , off course i would not put it in the central budget because then I would have to cut stuff like education and health care because its too expensive to put that in the budget. Maybe I call it cost neutral and hide it off books or wait for a 2 trillion loan from the Chinese for other stuff but I use that to cover up the losses. (sounds familiair). But then i get into trouble paying farmers (a few months before i step down). But I will blame the banks and if some farmers kill themselves so be it. (sounds familiar). 

 

Then later I step down and make no provisions to pay the farmers and blame others. Meanwhile I will let my ministers profit too by engaging in fake G2G deals so they can sell the rice twice to the system. i also wont account for smuggled in rice from other countries because too many checks would make it hard for my minions to cheat.. they all need to have some money. 

This article must have been so hard for you to read... three years of nonsense refuted in a single page.

 

The rice scheme was included in the budget.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30203114

 

It was the 2 trillion high speed rail loan that was going to be off budget - it never eventuated because the courts ruled against it.

 

This article has got you in such a tizzy that you're getting your propaganda all mixed up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[robblok]

17 minutes ago, starky said:

Yeah no amnesties for Thaksin only the ones the junta give themselves in perpetuity. Maybe after they finish buying all the subs and jets and tanks and increasing their salaries they may through the people a bone. I will avoid the cliche of telling you where to go if you love the Netherlands and that system  so much. I will ask though are you that deluded you think the reds are the only ones not playing fair? How about spitting the dummy every time you lose an election because you are that unpopular that you need to hold a coup every few years to attempt to take the power back. 

  No one defends the ptp it's only you junta fanboys that do that. Most of us understand the ptp party does a lot of shit wrong but being they are the duly elected party whilst they are in government they are their mistakes to make. Once the yellows get duly elected by a popular majority it will be their turn understand the difference between elected and taken by force?

Seems an awful lot like defending the ptp (not you by the way). I love the Dutch system as it is fair, people are always talking about how the system here should be fairer. But it seems they don't want it because then the PTP could not cheat anymore. Give me an example of Democrats cheating during election. Because I call the stunt that YL pulled by not putting the rice program in the books cheating.. thus having more spending power on popular policies. That is an highly unfair advantage. If you can't acknowledge that your bias. 

[robblok]

3 minutes ago, Smarter Than You said:

This article must have been so hard for you to read... three years of nonsense refuted in a single page.

 

The rice scheme was included in the budget.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30203114

 

It was the 2 trillion high speed rail loan that was going to be off budget - it never eventuated because the courts ruled against it.

 

This article has got you in such a tizzy that you're getting your propaganda all mixed up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry but i checked the budget its just not there.. everyone knows it was touted as cost neutral. Without showing it in the actual budget I wont believe you just other red rethoric. I have looked for it in the past as I like to be a good accountant and it was not there. 

[Eric Loh]

27 minutes ago, robblok said:

The point is it is not fair if you don't put stuff in the budget then you can always out buy other people. A fair system would be the Dutch system where election programs are checked by an indipendent agency to see if they are economically feasible. So everyone has the same buying power for policies. Now one side had a huge advantage because they were able to offer a lot more because they did not take a amount of spending the size of the annual health budget in the central budget. Not exactly something I call fair.

 

Just imagine if side a has 1000$ to offer you in benefits and the other side 2000$ because they keep 1000$ off books.. I guess that is indeed the definition of fair in the red playbook.  Fair would be if they all have the same to offer and their plans are checked. That is how it goes in real democracies like the Netherlands. 

In principle, I fully agree with setting up such a independent public institution like the CBO. I believed the TRDI is drafting out a proposal for the NRA to consider. However I am not sure that it will work in Thailand. To function and be credible, this body must be totally independent and non-partisan and should provide analysis of fiscal budgets, impact of fiscal policies, corporate governance and examination of state spending etc for elected and military governments (more military than elected governments). You will not get non partisanship and influence in this toxic political climate. There also no way this body can touch and examine military government expenditures. I don't think the NLA has any interest in pushing through such an institution unless they have complete influence just like the NACC where appointments of office bearers are highly controversial. 

[Smarter Than You]

4 minutes ago, robblok said:

Sorry but i checked the budget its just not there.. everyone knows it was touted as cost neutral. Without showing it in the actual budget I wont believe you just other red rethoric. I have looked for it in the past as I like to be a good accountant and it was not there. 

"The mobile Cabinet yesterday approved the rice pledging scheme for the 2012/2013 fiscal year, worth Bt105 billion in total, proposed by the Commerce Ministry".

 

 

Mate, you are living in one very, very quickly dwindling fantasy land.

 

 

[robblok]

I looked up the budget just see how if its in there it would take up almost all of the agricultural budget and that its NOT an increase from 2011. So its just not possible that its in there. It should have shown an increase.. and unless all other costs are cut it just cant be in there. 

 

I will link to the actual budget and to the part i found and post a part of it here to show i back my stuff up unlike smarter.

real budget

 

Edited July 18, 2017 by robblok

[Smarter Than You]

6 minutes ago, robblok said:

I looked up the budget just see how if its in there it would take up almost all of the agricultural budget and that its NOT an increase from 2011. So its just not possible that its in there. It should have shown an increase.. and unless all other costs are cut it just cant be in there. 

 

I will link to the actual budget and to the part i found and post a part of it here to show i back my stuff up unlike smarter.

real budget

Man you are really committed to the cause...

 

"After the Yingluck’s government won the election and came to the of ce in 2011, many policies were announced and formed including economic policies. One of the largest economic policies in terms of the government budgeting involved was rice pledging scheme....." 

 

Rice Pledging Scheme - ThaiJO

 

The real problem with the off-budget stuff in Thailand is the military's refusal to allow their own off budget revenue to be taxed.

 

 

[robblok]

1 minute ago, Smarter Than You said:

Man you are really committed to the cause...

 

"After the Yingluck’s government won the election and came to the of ce in 2011, many policies were announced and formed including economic policies. One of the largest economic policies in terms of the government budgeting involved was rice pledging scheme....." 

 

Rice Pledging Scheme - ThaiJO

 

The real problem with the off-budget stuff in Thailand is the military's refusal to allow their own off budget revenue to be taxed.

 

 

See how in my other part the whole agricultural minister has less then 100 billion budget.. it says it all. You can post all you want but this is the actual budget and it is just not there. So trough luck your mistaken and I am not. I showed you the budget and its not there it cant be there. If your so smart you would realize that. ITs probably because your not a numbers guy.. or just blind for the truth. 

[Eric Loh]

24 minutes ago, Smarter Than You said:

This article must have been so hard for you to read... three years of nonsense refuted in a single page.

 

The rice scheme was included in the budget.

http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/Economy/30203114

 

It was the 2 trillion high speed rail loan that was going to be off budget - it never eventuated because the courts ruled against it.

 

This article has got you in such a tizzy that you're getting your propaganda all mixed up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good one. Especially like the news content whereby her government acknowledged that there are corruption in the rice scheme and did something about it. Also the effort to improve infrastructure. Junta supporters have been harping on this  that nothing have been done on both issues. 

 

lCabinet also approved moves to try to control millers, farmers or others who try to cheat the scheme, especially if they purchase “young rice” aged less than 110 days. Any rice mill caught doing this would be punished with three to five years on a state blacklist. lMinisters also backed a Bt600-million budget to develop Chachoengsao and four nearby provinces, Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra said. She said each of the five provinces was granted Bt100 million for development projects and another Bt100 million was granted for the development of the five provinces as a group. Developments would be carried out in line with the overall national strategy and provincial plans. Yingluck said the budget would support logistics development from Laem Chabang port to the central provinces. The money also would be spent for promotion of conservation tourism, she said. But Cabinet was yet to consider off-budget projects in these provinces, she noted.

[Smarter Than You]

11 minutes ago, robblok said:

See how in my other part the whole agricultural minister has less then 100 billion budget.. it says it all. You can post all you want but this is the actual budget and it is just not there. So trough luck your mistaken and I am not. I showed you the budget and its not there it cant be there. If your so smart you would realize that. ITs probably because your not a numbers guy.. or just blind for the truth. 

"The Yingluck government has set aside Bt400 billion for the rice pledging scheme. It has spent Bt260 billion, over two harvests, to buy up paddy from farmers – with white rice at Bt15,000 per tonne and homali fragrant rice at Bt20,000 per tonne. Kittiratt said that by September the government is expected to use the remaining Bt170 billion in the budget to purchase more rice from farmers in order to fulfil its policy obligation.

The rice price pledging scheme is funded largely via borrowing. The FinanceMinistry has borrowed short-term money to the tune of around Bt260 billion to finance the scheme, operated by the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives."

 

There is an endless list of sources I can quote.

 

Poor Robblok .....reality beckons.

Edited July 18, 2017 by Smarter Than You

[LannaGuy]

7 minutes ago, robblok said:

See how in my other part the whole agricultural minister has less then 100 billion budget.. it says it all. You can post all you want but this is the actual budget and it is just not there. So trough luck your mistaken and I am not. I showed you the budget and its not there it cant be there. If your so smart you would realize that. ITs probably because your not a numbers guy.. or just blind for the truth. 

robblok you're just wrong on this one bro... got respect for ya but you're not concluding correctly. The junta have given themselves an amnesty, by the way, so that point is a bit disingenuous. The rice scheme was budgeted and it is perfectly normal to have a subsidy go ask the US or Europe and I hear Thailand has too!!!

 

this is NOT about rice

[MaxLee]

Enough of this monkey theatre. We already know nobody will dare to pull the trigger to make each other's lose face value...


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[esprit]

1 hour ago, Reigntax said:

 

And all the junta patsies will be rehashing the old rhetoric

very true. But the retribution upon the Junta and others we can not mention for attempting to exterminate the Shinawatra family and hence the support of millions, I fear will take decades to reach to be uncovered and reach fruition. But their day will come. This crowd will make the Pol Pot  regime look like angels in my opinion.  The Junta are desperate to suppress any information relating to political suppression of dissidents.  Unfortunately they have below average IQ's but above average access to weapons.  Evil to the core and we all now why and who is driving it.

 

 

The Shinawatra family were not angels by any means but at least they comprehended that by benefitting most of the population they could stay in power democratically.  This crowd have shown they have no morals, no ethics and only time will tell how or if  they have committed atrocities which hopefully will be enacted upon by other nations. 

 

 

[YetAnother]

2 hours ago, webfact said:

Yingluck and her Puea Thai Party say the trial is politically motivated

sure it is

[YetAnother]

19 minutes ago, esprit said:

Unfortunately they have below average IQ's but above average access to weapons.  Evil to the core

first part i agree with, as to the second, they are only doing what they are told by the rulers

[esprit]

3 minutes ago, YetAnother said:

first part i agree with, as to the second, they are only doing what they are told by the rulers

Yes and we can not talk about the truth on this forum

[robblok]

24 minutes ago, LannaGuy said:

robblok you're just wrong on this one bro... got respect for ya but you're not concluding correctly. The junta have given themselves an amnesty, by the way, so that point is a bit disingenuous. The rice scheme was budgeted and it is perfectly normal to have a subsidy go ask the US or Europe and I hear Thailand has too!!!

 

this is NOT about rice

I am talking here about not taking the losses / cost of the rice program in the central budget.. not about junta amnesty or anything like that. Show my how a 100 billion cost could be paid from the agricultural budget that is lower then 100 billion (so the salaries of people working there maintenance of office and all are gone too). I am dead right I know accounting and its just not there. 

[robblok]

29 minutes ago, Smarter Than You said:

"The Yingluck government has set aside Bt400 billion for the rice pledging scheme. It has spent Bt260 billion, over two harvests, to buy up paddy from farmers – with white rice at Bt15,000 per tonne and homali fragrant rice at Bt20,000 per tonne. Kittiratt said that by September the government is expected to use the remaining Bt170 billion in the budget to purchase more rice from farmers in order to fulfil its policy obligation.

The rice price pledging scheme is funded largely via borrowing. The FinanceMinistry has borrowed short-term money to the tune of around Bt260 billion to finance the scheme, operated by the Bank for Agriculture and Agricultural Cooperatives."

 

There is an endless list of sources I can quote.

 

Poor Robblok .....reality beckons.

You can quote them all. but they are not in the actual budget. That is the base document. When you try to state something to to the root.. the base document. That is the first thing anyone with a bit of education in his background knows. If it was there.. it would have showed up in the budget. It did not. I have proven that. Just promising to do something (like she promised to pay the farmers) and really doing it are 2 different stories.

 

Its NOT in the budget.. if it is point it out, i have included a link to the total budget and even emailed it to you. Prove me wrong. Otherwise accept its not there. Newspaper articles are not going to help you as they show intention.. not action. The budget shows the reality. 

 

Its impossible to have included 100 billion if the total agricultural budget is below 100 billion and includes salaries of officials and many other stuff. 

 

If someone says he is going to pay you 100 dollar to your bank.. what do you trust his promise or your actual bank statement ? Always go to the base documents mate.

Edited July 18, 2017 by robblok