Yingluck verdict to be delivered August 25

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Yingluck verdict to be delivered August 25

By The Nation

 

Yingluck Shinawatra

 

BANGKOK: -- The verdict in the criminal case against former prime minister Yingluck Shinawatra will be delivered on August 25, the Supreme Court announced on Friday.

The case stems from her government’s alleged rice-pledging scheme.

 

 Yingluck has been accused of negligence in preventing corruption and irregularities in the controversial scheme. If found guilty, she could face a heavy fine and a jail term up to 10 years. 

 

 Friday was the final hearing in her case in the Supreme Court’s Criminal Division for Political Office Holders. 

 

 The date is the same day as the verdict will be delivered in another case related to the controversial rice-pledging scheme.

 

Boonsong Teruyapirom, former Commerce Minister, and 27 others have been charged with malfeasance or condoning irregularity in the alleged bogus government-to-government deals to sell 6.2 million tonnes of rice, worth more than Bt20 billion, to China. 

 

Source: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/detail/breakingnews/30321407

 

-- © Copyright The Nation 2017-07-21

[johnarth]

A very important case for everybody concerned the whole world will be watching, the courts won't want to stuff this one up. One big point I see here is if she does not get a jail term then she will be able to push for new elections which she would win

[jaywalker]

Mr. Big T needs to FedEx a Nicaraguan passport (like he has) to her & she'll have to say "Hola" and "Gracias" at Swampy. She could pass as a person from Central America with the help of a makeup artist easily.

 

I bet this big decision gets delayed by a month, if not a year...or 20 years.

[Ricardo]

25 minutes ago, johnarth said:

A very important case for everybody concerned the whole world will be watching, the courts won't want to stuff this one up. One big point I see here is if she does not get a jail term then she will be able to push for new elections which she would win

"new elections which she would win"

 

...  were it not for her 5-year political-ban  ...  which would prevent her from standing, even if she wanted to.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/23/thai-parliament-votes-to-impeach-yingluck-shinawatra

 

 

 

[Pridilives]

26 minutes ago, Ricardo said:

"new elections which she would win"

 

...  were it not for her 5-year political-ban  ...  which would prevent her from standing, even if she wanted to.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/23/thai-parliament-votes-to-impeach-yingluck-shinawatra

 

 

 

From you link

 

The ban prevents Yingluck from participating in politics for five years, a move analysts say is nothing more than an attempt to keep her – and her brother Thaksin, the former prime minister who was himself ousted in a military coup in 2006 – away from polls that have won them, or their affiliates, every election in the past decade. 

 

The decision – made on Friday by a handpicked legislature –

Edited July 23, 2017 by Pridilives

[ratcatcher]

45 minutes ago, johnarth said:

A very important case for everybody concerned the whole world will be watching, the courts won't want to stuff this one up. One big point I see here is if she does not get a jail term then she will be able to push for new elections which she would win

An important case for many people in Thailand, and a few observers in foreign countries with an interest in Thai politics. The rest of the world has far bigger problems than worrying about the fate of the sister of a corrupt (among so many) Thai politician.

The military government has not spent the last 3 years in power in order for Ms Yingluck to leave court victorious and ready to try and run the country for a second time (which as has already been pointed out, is not possible). They will, IMO, at best give her a big fine, a good "judicial spanking" and tell her to go and grow her mushrooms,  look after her son and be a good girl.

Meanwhile big brother who has been watching from the safety of the desert sheikdom must be envious of the intestinal fortitude of his youngest sister during these last few years. A characteristic he sadly lacks. 

[ratcatcher]

1 minute ago, Pridilives said:

From you link

 

The ban prevents Yingluck from participating in politics for five years, a move analysts say is nothing more than an attempt to keep her – and her brother Thaksin, the former prime minister who was himself ousted in a military coup in 2006 – away from polls that have won them, or their affiliates, every election in the past decade.

[Pridilives]

2 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

An important case for many people in Thailand, and a few observers in foreign countries with an interest in Thai politics. The rest of the world has far bigger problems than worrying about the fate of the sister of a corrupt (among so many) Thai politician.

The military government has not spent the last 3 years in power in order for Ms Yingluck to leave court victorious and ready to try and run the country for a second time (which as has already been pointed out, is not possible). They will, IMO, at best give her a big fine, a good "judicial spanking" and tell her to go and grow her mushrooms,  look after her son and be a good girl.

Meanwhile big brother who has been watching from the safety of the desert sheikdom must be envious of the intestinal fortitude of his youngest sister during these last few years. A characteristic he sadly lacks. 

Coup stay 3 years. Thaksin never call mob come street. How many life saved from thaksin make this choice. Ptp play dead. This save life. Already I think junta regret this trial. Just make more and more people love yingluck 

[jaywalker]

43 minutes ago, ratcatcher said:

Meanwhile big brother who has been watching from the safety of the desert sheikdom must be envious of the intestinal fortitude of his youngest sister during these last few years.

She grew up on somtam & has the intestinal fortitude of an ostrich.

 

I'm completely apolitical the world over (they're all power hungry crooks), but it's amazing (not really) how this has dragged on for so long.

 

I'd wager 10 baht that on August 25th we'll hear of another postponement, as Mr. T goes bonkers with the Western Union transfers to the "judge".

[sujoop]

More poor, poor Pou (Yingluck)... Meanwhile, the poorest farmers weren't even part of the rice scheme... The program was a fraud from the outset. Here's a sample from rice scheme corruption cases - a fictional China deal which links a red-shirt leader,  a Yingluck/Pheu Thai party MP and a Thaksin insider:
 

Dummy firm tied to govt figures
*Guangzhou-based GSSG Import and Export Corporation, was actually represented by a Thai man called Rathanit Sojirakul, who later authorised Phichit-based Nimon Rakdi to (sign) a contract to purchase 5 million tonnes of rice on the company’s behalf. ...Rathanit was a close aide to Pheu Thai MP Rapeephan Phongruangrong, who is the wife of red-shirt leader Arisman Phongruangrong. ...Rathanit, who claimed to be the authorised representative of the Chinese firm, only has Bt64.63 in his bank account...
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/politics/aec/30195106
 

Notable comment from Yingluck's (Thaksin's) Commerce minister:
“(After buying the rice) I won’t be investigating what buyers do with it,” he said.

So, Yingluck + Commerce Minister obviously were not interested in investigating their corruption laden program but some may ask, what happened to the rice in this supposedly innocent 'normal subsidy' deal?
 

*The G-to-G deal was a fake because no rice was exported to the Chinese firm. Instead, the huge amount of milled rice was sold locally at below market price by the Foreign Trade Department to a ghost buyer who then sold the rice at market price to the two Thai firms which have their own rice mills and later on the same amount of rice were pledged with the government at pledging prices which are about 40 percent above market price. The gang, it was alleged, made double profits from the same amount of rice.
http://englishnews.thaipbs.or.th/pm-yingluck-probed-connection-fake-rice-deal/
 

'Nimon previously worked at President Agri Trading, a company that was found to have been involved in shady dealings under a rice price-pledging scheme launched in 2003-2004 during Thaksin Shinawatra’s administration.  President Agri is connected to Apichart’s Siam Indica, which was also involved in the scam in 2004'.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30195106
 

Floods and Rice scheme, connect the dots:

Besides 'losing' multi-billions in the rice scheme, there was also another significant loss event caused by the very same Thaksin program re-launch under Yingluck in 2011. The Democrat Govt advised against planting a 3rd rice crop in the basin but Yingluck's Govt encouraged it to kick off the new rice scheme program (and ordered dams NOT to release water so those same farmers could harvest rice in the basin and plain areas:
 

November 11, 2011

“Decision to delay the release of water from the country's major dams had been made by the government”
('so that farmers could harvest their crops first')
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30169695
 

And finally this chestnut, the 1st of many attempts to free Thaksin came amidst those same floods:
 

As floods wreak havoc on Thailand, government sneaks in a plan to bring Thaksin Shinawatra home?
Deputy Prime Minister Chalerm Yoobamrung, who chaired Tuesday's Cabinet meeting, from which Prime Minister Yingluck Shinawatra was conspicuously absence, waved off reporters, saying he would address the issue when he is at Parliament Wednesday afternoon. Media reports said that during a high-confidential Cabinet forum Tuesday limited to only a handful numbers of ministers and officials, it was decided that people convicted of corruption would be entitled to receive this year amnesty.
http://www.nationmultimedia.com/news/national/aec/30170004
 

Back to the current matter - there's a civil liability law which is designed to protect state officials against liability , 'unless they were found to have deliberately violated the laws',  or *to be  found in gross negligence of duty*. Unfortunately Yingluck went along with 'Thaksin speaks - Puea Thai does'. The result is she willfully turned a blind eye to multi-billion $$ plunder, therefore is guilty of 'gross negligence of duty' as charged, which is not excused under the civil liability law.
 

Yet despite obvious malfeasance, massive losses in a rice program which poorest farmers had no stake in, plus acerbated floods directly related to closing dams to get ill advised rice crops in, and then under the cloak of floods, try to sneak in an amnesty for Thaksin, many here go on saying 'Way to go Yingluck' etc. One would say shamefully but cannot when dealing with those who evidently know none...

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Edited July 23, 2017 by sujoop

[djjamie]

Justice rarely happens in Thailand with the elite.

 

I look forward to the book being thrown at this criminal (puppet). 

[Pridilives]

3 minutes ago, djjamie said:

Justice rarely happens in Thailand with the elite.

 

I look forward to the book being thrown at this criminal (puppet). 

Won't happen. Yingluck way too popular mean junta way too scared. Just ban from politics for life and some fine. This all junta want. 

[mtls2005]

Does anyone know which relevant sections of the criminal code Yingluck is charged with?

 

Are there any precedents? Have any other Prime Ministers been similarly charged?

 

It seems like quite a challenge for the judiciary to set a precedent like this, but I do understand their need to eliminate the red shirts by any means necessary.

 

About the only thing I could find is the ORGANIC ACT ON COUNTER CORRUPTION, B.E. 2542 (1999), which in itself refers to a section in a Constitution.

 

CHAPTER VI 
Criminal Proceedings Against Persons Holding Political Positions Under Section 308 of the Constitution 
_______________

Section 66. In the case where the injured person alleges that the person holding the position of Prime Minister, Minister, member of the House of Representatives, senator or any other political official has become unusually wealthy, or committed an offence of malfeasance in office under the Penal Code or malfeasance in office or corruption under other law, the injured person shall lodge a written request with the N.C.C. Commission. 

 

 

Malfeasance (or negligence), when one may not have personally benefited, seems a stretch in this case?

 

 

Are members of the current "government" subject to these same "laws", or does their self-administered amnesty shield them from similar charges?

[idman]

My only comment is regards to this terrible photo of Yingluck. Jesus, Mary and Joseph it makes her look very unattractive. How could they do this to the woman of my dreams? At 50 Yingluck looks great and this photo does not do her justice. But man was she a real looker in her 20's and 30's.

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[ratcatcher]

41 minutes ago, idman said:

My only comment is regards to this terrible photo of Yingluck. Jesus, Mary and Joseph it makes her look very unattractive. How could they do this to the woman of my dreams? At 50 Yingluck looks great and this photo does not do her justice. But man was she a real looker in her 20's and 30's.

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'....this terrible photo of Yingluck. "

What do you mean? She is brimming with emotion, holding back a flood of tears in front of a large crowd of her adoring fans.

What you need is this one to keep your pulse racing. She was a mere 25 year old and quite a stunner.

 

:

 

Here are more for your enjoyment.    https://www.google.co.th/search?q=yingluck&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiczs7Bmp_VAhVGgLwKHYaVDP4Q_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=589

 

Sweet dreams...................................

 

 

 

[AGareth2]

3 hours ago, mtls2005 said:

About the only thing I could find is the ORGANIC ACT ON COUNTER CORRUPTION, B.E. 2542 (1999), which in itself refers to a section in a Constitution.

thought the Junta had torn that up?

[JAG]

'....this terrible photo of Yingluck. "
What do you mean? She is brimming with emotion, holding back a flood of tears in front of a large crowd of her adoring fans.
What you need is this one to keep your pulse racing. She was a mere 25 year old and quite a stunner.
 
:
 
Here are more for your enjoyment.    https://www.google.co.th/search?q=yingluck&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiczs7Bmp_VAhVGgLwKHYaVDP4Q_AUICigB&biw=1366&bih=589
 
Sweet dreams...................................
 
 
 

Steady on Ratcatcher, you will be giving the "haters" conniptions...

In the interests of balance you really should have provided a link to some equally heart warming pictures of 'The Napoleon of Notting Hill"...