lelapin Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I have recently started to have problems with some soi dogs while out for my exercise walks. I did some research on DAZER 11 - a sound repellent - and got very mixed reviews. I was thinking of carrying with me a small pepper spray. Any thoughts on how successful this might be and where I could purchase it in Pattaya. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVUP Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Just carry dog biscuits & then they will know you when you come along Threatening them will always provoke future attacks & for those who say the Thais might not like what you do are wrong - I watched a man come back with a steel 1 " pipe & started swinging at them, also had to rescue old people Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midas Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I don't know how extensive your research was regarding Dazer but I can tell you think very carefully about pepper spray because you could end up in serious trouble if you injure one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonray Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 I have a Dazer type device (different brand) and it works quite well, I only use it if a dog shows aggression with posture or barking. Gives me a sense of security. I still avoid areas when I can see a dog has staked out a territory but sometimes you can't always avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OMGImInPattaya Posted July 28, 2017 Share Posted July 28, 2017 Isn't commercial pepper-twins illegal in Thailand? Maybe mix-up some homemade brew of water, vegetable oil, and cayanne pepper in a spray bottle to carry around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Any posts involving or suggesting cruelty will be removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
williamgeorgeallen Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, BEVUP said: Just carry dog biscuits & then they will know you when you come along Threatening them will always provoke future attacks & for those who say the Thais might not like what you do are wrong - I watched a man come back with a steel 1 " pipe & started swinging at them, also had to rescue old people feeding soi dogs is the wrong thing to do. feeding means they will breed more. carrying a stick is your best defence. avoid looking at them. street i was living on had soi dogs barking at night and they would wake up my baby so i would shoot them from my rooftop with a BB gun with plastic BBs. this seemed to work quite well at stopping them from doing it again. Edited July 29, 2017 by williamgeorgeallen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I have always found that if you "walk with purpose" and totally ignore them they rarely bother apart from the occasional territorial bark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
everett kendall Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 amonia and water in a spray bottle or squirt gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themerg Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I had soi dog problems. As crazy as they seem, these methods worked. In Thailand, dogs are trained with a stick. Leave a 4-5 foot stick at both ends of the area near the soi dogs. Throw stones with intent to miss hitting dogs. Show aggression, dogs see us as The Alpha Male when we are aggressive. Growl at the dog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeyrobot Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 It's annoying when they also try and steal your gold chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cereal Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 This is, and will forever remain, a problem as long as the Thai (and Lao) are completely irresponsible pet owners. Many years ago there was a bit of a problem with dogs on my very short soi. I bought a Doberman. I had her imported from Germany from a very reputable breeder. By the time she was 6-8 months old she had chewed the crap out of every dog around. I would take her for walks on a 3m leash. When the soi dogs came barking and growling I held the end of the leash and let her take care of business. It didn't take long for word to get out among the mutts. Don't mess with the German! It's peaceful now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cardinalblue Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Positive reinforcement on a variable schedule.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 2 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: feeding soi dogs is the wrong thing to do. feeding means they will breed more. carrying a stick is your best defence. avoid looking at them. street i was living on had soi dogs barking at night and they would wake up my baby so i would shoot them from my rooftop with a BB gun with plastic BBs. this seemed to work quite well at stopping them from doing it again. I was thinking about renting a place in JomTien up until yesterday, when I walked out, there were no less than 10 soi dogs fighting over five piles of rice fish/balls some good samaritan laid out for them. I had to click my Dazer II about five or six times to break it up, walked right thru them while they looked bewildered (funny) when I was on my way back, the food was gone and only five dogs were laying about, eyeballing me warily.........the moral of this is someone, I assume European since that is all I see here, is buying food from the little restaurant in the alley and feeding them..........okay, I have no problem with that, but it attracted another gang of dogs to fight over the food...........damned if you do and damned if you don't. I am looking elsewhere now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawadee1947 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 pepperspray works perfectly. You can buy it on the night market.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyFriend You Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 15 hours ago, midas said: I don't know how extensive your research was regarding Dazer but I can tell you think very carefully about pepper spray because you could end up in serious trouble if you injure one of them It has never failed me, even broke up two cats one night that were screeching at each other on the compound wall................this is not a weapon, it's a deterent and a trainer, the dog's, cat's will soon learn your smell and that you have bad Ju-Ju and stay away from you...........can also train your own animal when to bark and not to bark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Road Warrior Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 4 hours ago, williamgeorgeallen said: feeding soi dogs is the wrong thing to do. feeding means they will breed more. carrying a stick is your best defence. avoid looking at them. street i was living on had soi dogs barking at night and they would wake up my baby so i would shoot them from my rooftop with a BB gun with plastic BBs. this seemed to work quite well at stopping them from doing it again. 100% agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lvr181 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Monkeyrobot said: It's annoying when they also try and steal your gold chain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucjoker Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 6 hours ago, CharlieH said: I have always found that if you "walk with purpose" and totally ignore them they rarely bother apart from the occasional territorial bark. as if you are very thirsty and going to a bar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pacovl46 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Dogs feed off the energy of other living things. Which means, if you get nervous, anxious, loud, afraid etc. dogs will interpret this as weakness. It also means, if there's nothing coming back from you they have no choice but to cool down. Try this: Next time the dogs come to hassle you, just stay completely still, make yourself as big as possible, avoid eye contact and the most important part is to stay emotionally completely calm. Think, hey guys, this is my fricking road and you guys got nothing on me. By doing that you signal the dogs that you are a pack leader and that you won't take any shit from them. I had to resort to that a few times while I was living in Thailand. The first time I got all agitated and started yelling and working my arms and legs and it got the dogs just that much more wild. Then I did some research on how to deal with this and tried the above mentioned method and it worked like a charm. The dogs came running no towards me, barking like crazy. So I stopped and made myself as tall as possible and just stood there. As soon as I did that the dogs stopped and just kept looking at me, still barking a bit, but nowhere nearly as much as before. After about 30 seconds they shut up and then walked away. As I mentioned before, though, you have got to stay emotionally calm! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superal Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 21 minutes ago, pacovl46 said: Dogs feed off the energy of other living things. Which means, if you get nervous, anxious, loud, afraid etc. dogs will interpret this as weakness. It also means, if there's nothing coming back from you they have no choice but to cool down. Try this: Next time the dogs come to hassle you, just stay completely still, make yourself as big as possible, avoid eye contact and the most important part is to stay emotionally completely calm. Think, hey guys, this is my fricking road and you guys got nothing on me. By doing that you signal the dogs that you are a pack leader and that you won't take any shit from them. I had to resort to that a few times while I was living in Thailand. The first time I got all agitated and started yelling and working my arms and legs and it got the dogs just that much more wild. Then I did some research on how to deal with this and tried the above mentioned method and it worked like a charm. The dogs came running no towards me, barking like crazy. So I stopped and made myself as tall as possible and just stood there. As soon as I did that the dogs stopped and just kept looking at me, still barking a bit, but nowhere nearly as much as before. After about 30 seconds they shut up and then walked away. As I mentioned before, though, you have got to stay emotionally calm! Bet there were no rottweilers in the pack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieH Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Cruelty post and replies/quotes of it removed also. Any more suggestions of cruelty and this will be closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis7 Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 Carry A Long hard stick while walking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tryasimight Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 I always remember the classic Billy Connelly when talking about large dogs. he said 'they say dogs can smell fear......not surprising as I had just shit myself'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpjtm Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) On 7/28/2017 at 8:14 AM, BEVUP said: Just carry dog biscuits & then they will know you when you come along Threatening them will always provoke future attacks & for those who say the Thais might not like what you do are wrong - I watched a man come back with a steel 1 " pipe & started swinging at them, also had to rescue old people We have 2 "mu-ban" dogs in our gated neighborhood of 40 houses, left behind by the builders who lived in a temporary "shanty town" next to the neighborhood during the construction phase. There are only 2 dogs because they guard the territory with their lives, viciously defending their turf from other strays. But they're smart enough to be exceptionally friendly towards all the neighbors and domestic pets. In return they're very well fed by all the neighbors, farang and Thai. So the dog biscuit method would not work with them. Dog biscuits and dog food hold no appeal to these guys, who are spoiled by chicken and chicken liver. They do enjoy an occasional romp to scare off a stranger during the day, and their tolerance for strangers of the canine or human variety decreases significantly after dark, except when said stranger is vetted by a human neighbor. Perhaps 30% of the neighborhood homes are unoccupied at any given time, yet there have been exactly zero cases of theft or vandalism in the neighborhood in the 4 years we've been here, unlike some of the other neighborhoods in the area. Edited July 29, 2017 by ftpjtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpjtm Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) BTW, the female of our neighborhood pair has been neutered by the neighborhood, who also pay for occasional veterinarian care for the female who tolerates it. No one dares picking up or collaring the male for car rides though. Edited July 29, 2017 by ftpjtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ftpjtm Posted July 30, 2017 Share Posted July 30, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, ftpjtm said: 3 hours ago, ftpjtm said: and their tolerance for strangers of the canine or human variety "decreases" significantly after dark, Should read "INCREASES" Edited July 30, 2017 by ftpjtm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sangtip2 Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/28/2017 at 7:51 PM, midas said: I don't know how extensive your research was regarding Dazer but I can tell you think very carefully about pepper spray because you could end up in serious trouble if you injure one of them This may be the only country in the world where a stray dog has more rights than a human Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stanleycoin Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, sangtip2 said: This may be the only country in the world where a stray dog has more rights than a human Think you meant Falang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mogandave Posted July 31, 2017 Share Posted July 31, 2017 On 7/30/2017 at 5:01 AM, ftpjtm said: BTW, the female of our neighborhood pair has been neutered by the neighborhood... Indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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