webfact Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Mystery surrounds death of Korean man who fell at View Talay Condo in Pattaya this morning Picture: Siamchon News PATTAYA: -- Police have not ruled out murder in the case of a 23 year old Korean man who fell to his death at 2.30am this morning at View Talay 5 Condominium in Jomtien. The victim was staying in Room 634 on the 15th floor. Mr Jamin Lee was found dead by a security guard after he heard a loud noise. The victim had fallen on a Honda Jazz in the car park. The victim had multiple limb breaks and was lying in a pool of blood next to the car. The car's roof was dented and the back window was smashed. The victims shoes were found near the body and were taken into evidence by police at the scene. A lot of bystanders had arrived to look at the scene and a white screen was erected, reported Siamchon News. Security guard Lek Prasatsit, 51, said he alerted the authorities after finding the body that was dressed in a black shirt and shorts. Kaewaleesiri Phasukthanaphaisan of Pattaya police investigating said that evidence was being gathered. She would not rule out murder in the case. The body is undergoing autopsy at Banglamung Hospital. Investigations are ongoing. Source: Siamchon News -- © Copyright Thai Visa News 2017-08-03 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Cops must have a new crime solving guide book. First time I have ever heard Pattaya cops use the word murder for someone who fell/jumped/was pushed off a tall building. The old guide book only had suicide as the obvious cause. Progress comes, even to Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 14 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Cops must have a new crime solving guide book. First time I have ever heard Pattaya cops use the word murder for someone who fell/jumped/was pushed off a tall building. The old guide book only had suicide as the obvious cause. Progress comes, even to Thailand. Yeah alongside the drones , new motorbikes , and now white screens the R T P are upping their game a bit .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikebell Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 42 minutes ago, webfact said: The victims shoes were found near the body and were taken into evidence by police So expect a definitive ruling within hours. 'Elementary my dear Watson, we have his shoes.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darksidedog Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 It the fella was Chinese the cops would probably have ruled it a suicide, based on the unavailability of Big Macs in View Talay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiwrath Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 51 minutes ago, darksidedog said: Cops must have a new crime solving guide book. First time I have ever heard Pattaya cops use the word murder for someone who fell/jumped/was pushed off a tall building. The old guide book only had suicide as the obvious cause. Progress comes, even to Thailand. No new guide book. They obviously read Thaivisa on a more regular basis, and are starting to take notice of the numerous, expert TV sleuths ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaiyen Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Dont forget that a lot of hotels have very low rails on the balconies. A lot of people have fallen over them in the past, being drunk makes it easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, darksidedog said: First time I have ever heard Pattaya cops use the word murder for someone who fell/jumped/was pushed off a tall // That seems ridiculous to talk about "murder" in this case where the guy is seen on CCTV walking *alone* from his room to the roof, and then is found ground floor a few seconds later. Why not talk of suicide when clearly it's a suicide ?! Edit: See here: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/calamity/2017/08/03/korean-man-falls-death-pattaya-condo/ Edited August 3, 2017 by Pattaya46 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YetAnother Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 6 minutes ago, Pattaya46 said: That seems ridiculous to talk about "murder" in this case where the guy is seen on CCTV walking *alone* from his room to the roof, and then is found ground floor a few seconds later. Why not talk of suicide when clearly it's a suicide ?! Edit: See here: http://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/calamity/2017/08/03/korean-man-falls-death-pattaya-condo/ Why have cops if they're always confused? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lupatria Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 So all is "normal" in Pattaya then. I would be more surprised to read "no balcony falls today in our famous family resort." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvavin Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Oh dear! Who is paying for the Honda Jazz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dotpoom Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 The sad and telling fact about the comments posted regarding this story , which I for one have come to expect, and am seldom dissapointed, is the certain fact that these posters have become totally desensitised to the tragic death of a fellow human being. This person was the son of a mother and father, may have had brothers and sisters left behind and loved ones. Has all compassion left their beings (if it was ever thwre to begin with) and been replaced with cynical contempt and a lack of decency. RIP dear fellow traveller and condolences to all your family and loved ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterb17 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, jaiyen said: Dont forget that a lot of hotels have very low rails on the balconies. A lot of people have fallen over them in the past, being drunk makes it easier Actually the balcony railings are quite high on the newer View Talay buildings- but in this case the poor guy went to the roof. Why a reference to hotels ? It's a condo block. 23 is far far too young. He had his whole life in front of him- it's very sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thailand49 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 As noted RIP, but one can basically take a dummy same weight and height up to the location where it all happen and determine if it was a accident or he was pushed? I've been watching a lot of rerun C.S.I. lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, jaiyen said: Dont forget that a lot of hotels have very low rails on the balconies. A lot of people have fallen over them in the past, being drunk makes it easier That is quite true not to mention rails that are not attatched very well or in some older buildings where they have started to rust out .. The really troubling question is the numbers of people falling ( jumping ) off buildings here and not just off the top or balconies as the guy who did the same off the top floor inside Centrale last December demonstrated .. Is it something in the air here .? Whatever the reason its not gonna do much to improve the reputation of the place as the UK tabloids always run with these stories the most recent being June .. And T A T as we know don't like bad publicity especially the red-tops brand of publicity .. T'was the Sun's Sodom & Gomorrah headline easier this year that prompted T A T's Madam spokeswoman to declare " there are no prostitutes in Pattaya " and " people come for its sporting activities " alongside " they ( the papers ) are lying " ( bit rich that one coming from her ) Whatever the cause of this latest tragedy its hard not to think it won't be the last .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwikeith Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 2 hours ago, jaiyen said: Dont forget that a lot of hotels have very low rails on the balconies. A lot of people have fallen over them in the past, being drunk makes it easier yes, take off shoes first , put in your hand then fall off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balo Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 How could they come to the conclusion this could be a murder , just by looking at the body ? It could be a suicide, it could be a murder, it could be an accident. Ask the police and they just pick one theory and hope for the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, wvavin said: Oh dear! Who is paying for the Honda Jazz? Room deposit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregk0543 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 It could be murder, it could be death. RIP and may the truth be known. There is other evidence that the police have not made known to reporters. So dont stress on the reporters story. All will be revealed in the fullness of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asernume Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 As said before there are such things as CCTVs in this condo and virtually no reason to go stay on the roof. If the CCTVs show that he went there alone I would say the case is closed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgrazing Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 11 minutes ago, gregk0543 said: It could be murder, it could be death. RIP and may the truth be known. There is other evidence that the police have not made known to reporters. So dont stress on the reporters story. All will be revealed in the fullness of time. With respect how long you been in Patt' .? Not a huge amount of time I suggest particularly when it comes to the last sentence .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Briggsy Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 17 minutes ago, gregk0543 said: It could be murder, it could be death. RIP and may the truth be known. There is other evidence that the police have not made known to reporters. So dont stress on the reporters story. All will be revealed in the fullness of time. I take it you have not been here long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttrd Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 5 hours ago, darksidedog said: Cops must have a new crime solving guide book. First time I have ever heard Pattaya cops use the word murder for someone who fell/jumped/was pushed off a tall building. The old guide book only had suicide as the obvious cause. Progress comes, even to Thailand. Important to notice that the victim is asian - It still remain to be said about a euopean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanpierre Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 It's suicide he fell alone without a company Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubascuba3 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 Check the CCTV for LBs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pattaya46 Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 minute ago, scubascuba3 said: Check the CCTV for LBs They checked the CCTV already, and saw him going *alone* from his room to the roof. I really don't understand why some guys here want this case to be a murder ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 6 hours ago, darksidedog said: Cops must have a new crime solving guide book. First time I have ever heard Pattaya cops use the word murder for someone who fell/jumped/was pushed off a tall building. The old guide book only had suicide as the obvious cause. Progress comes, even to Thailand. Yes, but they didn't actually say it was murder - just that they haven't ruled it out! Second time in a few days where they have kept their options open! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambum Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 1 hour ago, gregk0543 said: It could be murder, it could be death. RIP and may the truth be known. There is other evidence that the police have not made known to reporters. So dont stress on the reporters story. All will be revealed in the fullness of time. Oh, it's definitely death, and I wouldn't be taking bets on your final sentence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
worgeordie Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 If the room is tidy,no sign of a struggle, its suicide,case closed, next case. regards worgeordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garbolino Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 3 hours ago, wvavin said: Oh dear! Who is paying for the Honda Jazz? insurance would/should pay....DONT YU THINK??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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